General: Army planning for 4 more years in Iraq

jaredfogle · Post by **jaredfogle** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 4:40 am

The U.S. Army is making plans to keep the current number of soldiers in Iraq -- more than 100,000 -- for four more years, the Army's top general said Saturday. Gen. Peter Schoomaker, interviewed by The Associated Press, said the Army is prepared for the "worst case" in terms of troop numbers. His comments come amid indications from administration officials and from commanders in Iraq that the size of the U.S. force could be scaled back next year.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/08/ ... index.html

Post by **Roofus** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:30 pm

Go us!

SuperMegatron · Post by **SuperMegatron** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:55 pm

We still have 50,000 troops in Germany they have been there since WW2 I doubt we will ever totally leave iraq.

Post by **|darc|** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:26 pm

SuperMegatron wrote:We still have 50,000 troops in Germany they have been there since WW2 I doubt we will ever totally leave iraq.

Must be pretty old guys now.

mikozero · Post by **mikozero** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:48 pm

|darc| wrote:
SuperMegatron wrote:We still have 50,000 troops in Germany they have been there since WW2 I doubt we will ever totally leave iraq.
Must be pretty old guys now.

jaredfogle · Post by **jaredfogle** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:16 pm

He-He. War.

mikozero · Post by **mikozero** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:26 pm

He-He. Language.

Smiley · Post by **Smiley** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:59 pm

Sad. I see no end in sight for this war, and I'm glad that I was discharged cause as much as I love fighting for my country, it's a never ending battle. I was against the us invading iraq, and am more worried about the North Korean? South Korean? Dictator.

/me hopes that they don't call me back to active duty, but since I had a dishonorable discharge I should be okay, right?

Orange_Ribbon · Post by **Orange_Ribbon** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:14 pm

Smiley wrote:Sad. I see no end in sight for this war, and I'm glad that I was discharged cause as much as I love fighting for my country, it's a never ending battle. I was against the us invading iraq, and am more worried about the North Korean? South Korean? Dictator.

/me hopes that they don't call me back to active duty, but since I had a dishonorable discharge I should be okay, right?

Why were you discharged?

Wagh · Post by **Wagh** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:16 pm

Smiley wrote:Sad. I see no end in sight for this war, and I'm glad that I was discharged cause as much as I love fighting for my country, it's a never ending battle. I was against the us invading iraq, and am more worried about the North Korean? South Korean? Dictator.

/me hopes that they don't call me back to active duty, but since I had a dishonorable discharge I should be okay, right?

They don't let 15 year olds in the military.

Hawq · Post by **Hawq** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:27 pm

Orange_Ribbon wrote:
Smiley wrote:Sad. I see no end in sight for this war, and I'm glad that I was discharged cause as much as I love fighting for my country, it's a never ending battle. I was against the us invading iraq, and am more worried about the North Korean? South Korean? Dictator.

/me hopes that they don't call me back to active duty, but since I had a dishonorable discharge I should be okay, right?
Why were you discharged?

It was over his CO's woman

mikozero · Post by **mikozero** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:45 pm

he discharged over his CO's woman ?

Post by **Roofus** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:51 pm

but since I had a dishonorable discharge I should be okay, right?

How did you get a dishonorable discharge?

mikozero · Post by **mikozero** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:00 pm

yeah, come on, spill the beans.....

bender · Post by **bender** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:16 pm

mikozero wrote:
|darc| wrote:
SuperMegatron wrote:We still have 50,000 troops in Germany they have been there since WW2 I doubt we will ever totally leave iraq.
Must be pretty old guys now.

. It's true. Troops are there since WW2, but of course, are not those old guys

The opinion here it's that the troops are in Iraq just for interest. Iraq's oil it's just a sweet for the big guys. Sadam it's a bad guy but it's actually arrested. The chaos in Iraq it's total since it was invaded, nobody in that country want foreign troops... There are terrorist attacks almost every day and seem that are not going to stop till the troops leave that country.

Anyway i'm not a politic but there are some countries that are worse than Iraq but with no oil. I.e, North Korea , probed to have all those mass destruction weapons that Iraq hadn't (neither does the US, of course

) and in the hands of guys that have their own people even more opressed and in concentration camps like if they still were in the WW2. I saw a video-documental of a guy that escaped from the country and was really depressive

Here spanish politics said also yes to the war (against the opinion of more of the 92% the people). Then the train bombs happened in Madrid with those 200 hundred dead, most of us think that's a consecuence of the war. The old government lost the elections for taking part in a war that we didn't undestand.

Smiley · Post by **Smiley** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:36 pm

Roofus wrote:
but since I had a dishonorable discharge I should be okay, right?
How did you get a dishonorable discharge?

I was in Basic Training, so I wasn't really in the army per-se, and I was discharged for several reasons: I was on the rifle range, clmibing down into a foxhole, when my ds came up behind me and tapped me on the shoulder. So, I turn around, rifle still in hand pointed down range, and he thought that I was gonna shoot him. The ds even claimed that I had this big old grin on my face as I pointed the rifle at him, but he was exaggerating.

After that, they send me to see the army shrink, who was crazy herself, and they diagnosed me with manac(prolly spelled wrong) depression, and wanted to recycle me. Well, I was in no hurry to do all that crap again (having been close to graduating) so I opted to go home, and they were more than happy to oblige. While I was upset that I didn't complete bt, the army just wasn't for me. I saw the army as a way to guide me in life to a profession that I'd enjoy, seeing as prior to joining I had no direction. But I hated my potential army job: a 92 Gulf. On my discharge papers, they list it as being a failure to adapt to milatary life.

Scoff and joke all you guys want, but I actually enjoyed my time there. I did some fun things, but the N.B.C chamber filled with CS, had to be the toughest crap I've ever been through.They send you in there in groups of about eight soldiers, line you up on opposite sides of the wall. Ask you to remove your kevlar, and last a certain amount of time before they throw your ass out the door. To make matter worse, they had cameras videotaping us as we left, snot running down your nose and covered in tears from the gas. And I had to go through that damn chamber twice: once with mask, and the second time without. All I cause I got disoriented and lost my weapon while in there.

fatheadpi · Post by **fatheadpi** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:01 pm

Scoff and joke all you guys want, but I actually enjoyed my time there. I did some fun things, but the N.B.C chamber filled with CS, had to be the toughest crap I've ever been through.They send you in there in groups of about eight soldiers, line you up on opposite sides of the wall. Ask you to remove your kevlar, and last a certain amount of time before they throw your ass out the door. To make matter worse, they had cameras videotaping us as we left, snot running down your nose and covered in tears from the gas. And I had to go through that damn chamber twice: once with mask, and the second time without. All I cause I got disoriented and lost my weapon while in there.

What are you talking about? The gas chamber's a blast! If nothing else, it reminds you how important good maintenance of your gear is.

What was a 92 gold when you went in? They've changed all the MOS's around, I was a 31S when I joined, now I'm a 25S with a few cool identifiers.

Smiley · Post by **Smiley** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:04 pm

fatheadpi wrote:
Scoff and joke all you guys want, but I actually enjoyed my time there. I did some fun things, but the N.B.C chamber filled with CS, had to be the toughest crap I've ever been through.They send you in there in groups of about eight soldiers, line you up on opposite sides of the wall. Ask you to remove your kevlar, and last a certain amount of time before they throw your ass out the door. To make matter worse, they had cameras videotaping us as we left, snot running down your nose and covered in tears from the gas. And I had to go through that damn chamber twice: once with mask, and the second time without. All I cause I got disoriented and lost my weapon while in there.

What are you talking about? The gas chamber's a blast! If nothing else, it reminds you how important good maintenance of your gear is.

What was a 92 gold when you went in? They've changed all the MOS's around, I was a 31S when I joined, now I'm a 25S with a few cool identifiers.

I got discharged about two years ago, and when I was in there, a 92 GULF was a damn cook. I didn't study as much as I should have before I took the ASVAB, and at the time didn't care; I just wanted in the army.

fatheadpi · Post by **fatheadpi** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:19 pm

I got discharged about two years ago, and when I was in there, a 92 GULF was a damn cook.

Nothin' wrong with being a cook, somebody's got to make breakfast 7 days a week. Some guys are total pricks about their jobs, but most guys are pretty cool. Gotta work deals, like say a plate of biscuits and gravy for a phone call or some net access.

Hawq · Post by **Hawq** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:33 pm

Roofus wrote:
but since I had a dishonorable discharge I should be okay, right?
How did you get a dishonorable discharge?

mikozero wrote:yeah, come on, spill the beans.....

Thatd make a second dishonorable discharge