Cigars

btm4k · Post by **btm4k** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:07 am

Someone help me shed some light on cigars:

They're made of tobacco, right?
Are they addictive?
Are they bad for you? (someone told me you dont inhale them as you do cigarettes, while someone else told me they're five times worse)

How bad would smoking one like twice a week be? I checked google but it was mostly pro-tobacco info. I also checked the anti-tobacco site and didnt see any cigar info.

TreyDay · Post by **TreyDay** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:11 am

I don't think cigars have nicotene in them, so I don't think they're addictive. Although they don't have nicotene, they have like 5X as much tar in them.

A cigar twice a week isn't that bad. Sometimes I get a pack of black n milds (five a pack) and I'm done with them in two days. Just can't get enough of that smell.

Luriden · Post by **Luriden** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:28 am

I've never smoked a cigar, though I plan to buy some when I turn 18 in a few months. Maybe it'll help me quit cigs.

I know for a fact they're not the same as cigarettes. I know some very anti-smoking people that love cigars. Don't smoke them like cigarettes and you'll live.

404NotFound · Post by **404NotFound** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:29 am

Cigars probably won't give you lung cancer... but i'm pretty sure they can cause mouth and throat cancer which is probably just as bad.

mariobro · Post by **mariobro** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:35 am

Fine cigars are made from whole, roasted tobacco leaves. They are twisted and packed into a tight roll, and wrapped in a dark tobacco leaf.

You usually don't inhale the smoke from a cigar, but experienced smokers often do. It's pretty strong stuff.

All tobacco products contain nicotine. By the way, most vegetables contain nicotine. Remember, tobacco is a plant. A pound of spinach contains as much nicotine as 5 cigarretes. No wonder vegetarians are so cranky...

Whether nicotine is addictive or not is still a matter of debate. There is also no solid evidence that it's harmful in moderate quantities. If it were, all vegetarians would suffer from cancer. Inhaling smoke is the most probable cause of cancer and lung disease.

Smoking is a personal choice. There is certainly no harm in smoking an occasional cigar. Just as smoking will not make you a better person, not smoking will not make you a superior being.

OneThirty8 · Post by **OneThirty8** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:40 am

As has been stated, all tobacco products contain niccotine. All tobacco products have been linked to cancer, including chewing tobacco and snuff. Cigarettes have been shown to cause lung cancer because they are inhaled. They also can cause mouth cancer and throat cancer, as can cigars and smokeless tobacco.

But, whatever. I smoke a pack of Parliament Menthols a day, so I'm not one to talk.

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:28 am

The fact is they smell of poo

not just souLLy now · Post by **not just souLLy now** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:33 am

mattthemodder wrote:The fact is they smell of poo

Zealous zerotype · Post by **Zealous zerotype** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:38 am

They do contina nicotine, and can become addictive. They also in some cases are worst as it builds up in the back of your mouth(if you smoke them "properly") I still do not think their bad. Hell do whatever you want.

DeAthWaGer · Post by **DeAthWaGer** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:42 am

Yeah cigars are my weakness. I loved them when I smoked cigarettes, and now I have a few a week now that a quit smoking cigarettes.

The problem is if you start on cigars you tend not to inhale, if you smoked cigarettes first you will... so I do.

BTW, great cigar site (sales, etc.):

http://www.thompsoncigar.com

JuddWack · Post by **JuddWack** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:53 am

I think the addiction you would gain to a cigar would be more mental than physical seeing that you don't really enhale.

Also since you don't inhale I would assume that they are far less damaging to your lungs and thoat and since the smoke stays in your mouth longer far more damaging to your teeth, mouth, and gums.

Many people smoke 2 cigars a week and they are fine, like my grand pop. However I have also seen fellas who have a stogie stuffed in the corner of their mouth every time you see them. THey don't really smoke it, they just leave it there. The end is all wet and nasty. When they take it out their teeth and lips are black from where it was. I wouldn't suggest that.

JuddWack · Post by **JuddWack** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:54 am

I've never been to mars but I imagine it's quite lovely there.

JuddWack · Post by **JuddWack** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:57 am

Sorry for the triple post. I edited them down. That was wierd

Skater_dusto · Post by **Skater_dusto** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:19 pm

Of course they still have nocotine, it's just the trillions of chemicals that are in ciggarettes that are omitted. They're still stronger in terms of nicotine content, and can still cause cancers whether it's oral or lung.

Pure nicotine is crazy. I've seen an indian shaman smoke pure, uncured tobacco from a peace pipe and the guy hallucinated like crazy. If a normal teenager or young adult thought they were badass and tried to take a hoot, they'd probably faint or die (Yes, death can occur from the crazy amounts of poisons).

It was definitely a once in a life time experience, not something you'd see normal cigar smokers do. I wouldn't recommend that anyone ever try this for recreation purposes or for whatever other crazy reason. If it crossed your mind then shame on you dummy, you'll probably die.

And as far as cigars go they're certainly yummy. They're good when you're drinking or on mushrooms. I could hardly smoke a cigar by myself. I take small hoots and enjoy inhaling a little bit of the smoke, but not every time I draw. They're actually insanely good to be honest, and make great blunts. Although I only let myself smoke 1 every other month or so... heh, heh.

Warmachine · Post by **Warmachine** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:34 pm

Black n Milds are good. I smoke cigars but not very common. I would say bout 4-6 every month or so.

toastman · Post by **toastman** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:39 pm

I liked Swisher Sweets (I'm not clear on the spelling so fuck it, it's been years anyway) when I did smoke. Wasn't a big fan of Black n Milds.
I did take a hit off of a real cigar once. Yeah, I treated it like a cigarette.
I went lay down for a while.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:50 pm

Smokers are damn smelly. Which is why I will never smoke.

btm4k · Post by **btm4k** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:21 pm

So what exactly are Swisher Sweets? I know they're flavored but how are they not real cigars?

Skater_dusto · Post by **Skater_dusto** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:26 pm

Lots of cigars don't stink so bad. Although I don't hotbox with friggen cigars as some burn for up to an hour!

Ciggarettes totally reak though. They're not as nice as cigars. Captain blacks and the like are what all the highschool kids smoke here. I suppose I like them.... and ones you get at corner stores and stuff. I'm no connesuir (screw spelling!) but that's really all that I've been brave enough to smoke.

My friend from switzerland always comes back with heaps of smokeables. He says it's nothing but the best and although I don't have any experience they're fucking wonderful. If I ever get the names of them I'll post it in another thread, they're all so good. If anyone has any knowledge about what's in that reason please post here or pm me. I wouldn't mind having some more for future parties or shrooming in the summer or just whatever...

Warmachine · Post by **Warmachine** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:32 pm

btm4k wrote:So what exactly are Swisher Sweets? I know they're flavored but how are they not real cigars?

I smoked a few Swishers, they are like Black n Mild. You can get them with or without tips. I don't know how they are not like real cigars, maybe cause they smaller and cheaper? I smoked the good stuff too, very expensive