Well, my last post got locked and deleted...try #2

[Ender]

I'm not going to use the word, so use your imagination

ok, fine. <> are bad. DC <> are bad. Snes <> are bad. NES <> are bad. All <> are bad.

That being said, <> DO happen. People HAVE <> DC games. What is the harm in passing along some of the techniques? I gave no specifics, just a broad overview of SOME of the techniques being used to "shrink" <> games.

I thought the net was about passing around knowledge. If hackers and crackers have knowledge about something, what's the point in putting your fingers in your ears and saying "LALALALALALALALALALA..."?

Now, I understand that the boards are <probably> run and moderated by 14-17 year olds. That's fine. More power to the younger people. I just don't get why you guys lock and delete anything that suggests that <>, or rather the methods of <>. With the stuff that I had put in the other post, no newbie to the programming biz could've <> their own DC game, so what's the harm in knowing?

Closing your eyes and ears won't make this go away. I say, as long as the specifics are still buried, then what harm is it? It might get people thinking creatively for a change, with some little jump-start.

So, lock this post, or delete it, or heck, even ban me for having a mind of my own. Maybe make me an "uncool newbie" while you're at it. But if you're going to delete this at least have the balls to give me a straight answer about why knowing how things are done is necessarily a bad thing.

Thank you.

*looks at watch* -let's see how long this one lasts....

[Narcissus]

I understand and agree somewhat with your post. But at the same time, for this site to stay legal and able to remain open there are some rules that must be followed, and that's one of them. If you really have to share techniques PM some of the other users that share your views and do it privately.

[The Kron]

Dear ender,

I work within the games industry, to hear a warezer saying that moderators are the ones that are acting 14-17 years old is really quite amusing as yourself and countless other warezers are the people with a problem!

Thank you for posting YET ANOTHER dire and pointless topic, by taking this stance you are offending the people who appreciate and respect what the games industry is about, some of us choose to legitimately buy games and support developers because whats on offer can only be bettered by giving something back.

Your ignorant attitude will get you no where, as far as im concerned your views/opinions count for nothing as you dont have the ability to deviate right from wrong.

You honestly think knowing how to rip a commercial game or downsize a rip are genuinely respectable topics of conversation for a public domain message board where people WANT to enjoy and respect games companies for what they are offering?..Its proverbially stabbing a friend in the back!.

[Number Six]

Dear ender,

...some of us choose to legitimately buy games and support developers because whats on offer can only be bettered by giving something back.

Then what are your views on buying used games? Last I checked, I only own two DC games that were purchased new. (Seaman and Tennis 2K2, for those who want to know.) Is that "stabbing a friend in the back"? I fail to see how buying used is "giving something back" to the developers. Yet that's totally acceptable.

[toastman]

I'm not going to use the word, so use your imagination

ok, fine. <> are bad. DC <> are bad. Snes <> are bad. NES <> are bad. All <> are bad.

That being said, <> DO happen. People HAVE <> DC games. What is the harm in passing along some of the techniques? I gave no specifics, just a broad overview of SOME of the techniques being used to "shrink" <> games.

I thought the net was about passing around knowledge. If hackers and crackers have knowledge about something, what's the point in putting your fingers in your ears and saying "LALALALALALALALALALA..."?

Now, I understand that the boards are <probably> run and moderated by 14-17 year olds. That's fine. More power to the younger people. I just don't get why you guys lock and delete anything that suggests that <>, or rather the methods of <>. With the stuff that I had put in the other post, no newbie to the programming biz could've <> their own DC game, so what's the harm in knowing?

Closing your eyes and ears won't make this go away. I say, as long as the specifics are still buried, then what harm is it? It might get people thinking creatively for a change, with some little jump-start.

So, lock this post, or delete it, or heck, even ban me for having a mind of my own. Maybe make me an "uncool newbie" while you're at it. But if you're going to delete this at least have the balls to give me a straight answer about why knowing how things are done is necessarily a bad thing.

Thank you.

*looks at watch* -let's see how long this one lasts....

Well go spread your knowledge. DCEmulation.com forums are hardly the end-all be-all of the internet. Start a site. Call it "DCWarezRippingTechniques.com", get your own forum, and talk about it there. That's the beauty of the internet. There are rules here. You must learn to at least respect the rules of the site. To paraphrase a great quote: "If there was a rule stating: No Topic about Tomatoes, I don't care if you are the guy from Del Monte, don't talk about tomatoes."

[The Kron]

Number Six it would have been better if you could have saved that for a different topic, but the answer I would give to your question would be:

If a game has been bought in the first place and the user no longer wants that game it makes sense that they want to offer it for sale and gain money back towards the purchase of another game, this time 2 people benefit, the person with less money to spend gets an original game to play for a marked down price and the developers get another sale from the person with his trade money + extra.

The selfish user is the only person to gain a game from the warez route,but at the end of the day they end up with a console and a worthless pile of cdrs, and then there is the fact that they have not contributed to the software sales which may guarantee the future of that said console, especially as its normal for developers to make a loss on the RRP of a console as they rely on software sales, The warez user isnt really enjoying the game as they have too many others to download so the appreciation is never there.

[AmadeusZull]

Number Six it would have been better if you could have saved that for a different topic, but the answer I would give to your question would be:

If a game has been bought in the first place and the user no longer wants that game it makes sense that they want to offer it for sale and gain money back towards the purchase of another game, this time 2 people benefit, the person with less money to spend gets an original game to play for a marked down price and the developers get another sale from the person with his trade money + extra.

The selfish user is the only person to gain a game from the warez route,but at the end of the day they end up with a console and a worthless pile of cdrs, and then there is the fact that they have not contributed to the software sales which may guarantee the future of that said console, especially as its normal for developers to make a loss on the RRP of a console as they rely on software sales, The warez user isnt really enjoying the game as they have too many others to download so the appreciation is never there.

LOL you still pay for games!!! OMFG ahahahaha

[pavelbure]

The warez user isnt really enjoying the game as they have too many others to download so the appreciation is never there.

sooooooo true.

[AmadeusZull]

yup thats true. i haven't finish a game since 2000. but i always finish with the pornos i d/l-ed.

[Narcissus]

yup thats true. i haven't finish a game since 2000. but i always finish with the pornos i d/l-ed.

hehehe....

[404NotFound]

Now, I understand that the boards are <probably> run and moderated by 14-17 year olds. That's fine. More power to the younger people. I just don't get why you guys lock and delete anything that suggests that <>, or rather the methods of <>. With the stuff that I had put in the other post, no newbie to the programming biz could've <> their own DC game, so what's the harm in knowing?

Hmmmm to say that we lock because we are immature and sniff out the word warez is incorrect. Even if copying games WAS legal and everybody did it, as the board stands today we would still lock topics about warez because it's in the rules that no warez discussion is allowed.

Not saying the word "warez" is draumatic, and a way to make you look repressed, but the content of what you say is why it's locked, we don't run filters that lock every topic that contained the word "Warez"

[404NotFound]

damn j00, i wasted my 3800th post on that.

[BlackxKnight]

personally i dont see the point of you pissing and moaning about how you cant show off your <> skills considering this is http://www.dcemulation.org if it was http://www.burndreamcastgames.com (as far as i know dosent exist) i would understand but this site isnt geared about <> games its geared about emulation which is a diferent topic so i really dont see how this applys so y dont you go find a board that would appreciate this post.

[CupNoodle]

Dear ender,

I work within the games industry, to hear a warezer saying that moderators are the ones that are acting 14-17 years old is really quite amusing as yourself and countless other warezers are the people with a problem!

Thank you for posting YET ANOTHER dire and pointless topic, by taking this stance you are offending the people who appreciate and respect what the games industry is about, some of us choose to legitimately buy games and support developers because whats on offer can only be bettered by giving something back.

Your ignorant attitude will get you no where, as far as im concerned your views/opinions count for nothing as you dont have the ability to deviate right from wrong.

You honestly think knowing how to rip a commercial game or downsize a rip are genuinely respectable topics of conversation for a public domain message board where people WANT to enjoy and respect games companies for what they are offering?..Its proverbially stabbing a friend in the back!.

Yea I'm no Mod or Admin, but i absolutely KNOW that these guys aren't 14-17, and further more, why do you care so much about warez anyways? You already know that any topics about it are gonna get locked anyways, so it's best just to leave the topic alone.

[404NotFound]

Yea I'm no Mod or Admin, but i absolutely KNOW that these guys aren't 14-17, and further more, why do you care so much about warez anyways? You already know that any topics about it are gonna get locked anyways, so it's best just to leave the topic alone.

Actually i am 14, almost 15, but i try not to show it

[CupNoodle]

Yea I'm no Mod or Admin, but i absolutely KNOW that these guys aren't 14-17, and further more, why do you care so much about warez anyways? You already know that any topics about it are gonna get locked anyways, so it's best just to leave the topic alone.

Actually i am 14, almost 15, but i try not to show it

why must you ruin my day ...j/k

[ZacMc]

http://www.burndreamcastgames.com

OMG thats a real site.. A really funny site!!

[Nyarlathotep]

To paraphrase a great quote: "If there was a rule stating: No Topic about Tomatoes, I don't care if you are the guy from Del Monte, don't talk about tomatoes."

it was oranges.....