basically what he's saying is, she's not asian enoughBoneyCork wrote:I wasn't referring to that. I just think she looks disgusting. Fake barbie-doll over-tanned Los Angeles Blonde does nothing for me at all.ace wrote:She's cleaner than most celebrities.BoneyCork wrote:I wouldn't stick my genitals anywhere near Pamela Anderson. Eww.
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Yeah pretty much.not just souLLy now wrote:basically what he's saying is, she's not asian enoughBoneyCork wrote:I wasn't referring to that. I just think she looks disgusting. Fake barbie-doll over-tanned Los Angeles Blonde does nothing for me at all.ace wrote:She's cleaner than most celebrities.BoneyCork wrote:I wouldn't stick my genitals anywhere near Pamela Anderson. Eww.
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I've pretty much said this for quite some time now. Just because someone is talented and obviously doing well at what they do, doesn't mean they're gonna be popular with everyone.I've said this a thousand times before to many people, but can't you think someone is talented and still dislike them or vice versa?
Who you like and who you think is talented are two different things entirely.
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Good music that will last through the ages all have one thing in common: passion.
It's something I've hit upon. This is why emo bands and the such will never last, they speak about feelings and emotions. At its best, rock is all passion. Often that passion is lust, so you get a lot of songs about getting some, but the point still holds.
In trying to get my wife to understand, and shut her up about Richard Marx, I asked her a simple question: Which is better, "Waiting for You" or "See You on the Other Side"?
Ozzy totally won. Because while they are ultimately both about longing and heartache, Marx just writes about how that makes him feel, while Ozzy makes you feel it.
It's something I've hit upon. This is why emo bands and the such will never last, they speak about feelings and emotions. At its best, rock is all passion. Often that passion is lust, so you get a lot of songs about getting some, but the point still holds.
In trying to get my wife to understand, and shut her up about Richard Marx, I asked her a simple question: Which is better, "Waiting for You" or "See You on the Other Side"?
Ozzy totally won. Because while they are ultimately both about longing and heartache, Marx just writes about how that makes him feel, while Ozzy makes you feel it.
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man, if you didn't like Pamela Anderson in the 90's then you don't like girlsBoneyCork wrote:I wouldn't stick my genitals anywhere near Pamela Anderson. Eww.
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souLLy wrote:Britney Spears has sold more than 76 million records, how can you say she's not talented?
We are talking when the music had quality, not in 1999
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Pamela Anderson is ass-ugly. I don't like Barbie dolls; I like real girls.JKKDARK wrote:man, if you didn't like Pamela Anderson in the 90's then you don't like girlsBoneyCork wrote:I wouldn't stick my genitals anywhere near Pamela Anderson. Eww.
I listen to mostly old music, but that's a very stupid thing to say.JKKDARK wrote:souLLy wrote:Britney Spears has sold more than 76 million records, how can you say she's not talented?
We are talking when the music had quality, not in 1999
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So because I'm not attracted to some generic airhead LA bimbo with fake boobs, bleached hair and an inch-think layer of make-up on her face I'm suddenly gay?JKKDARK wrote:man, if you didn't like Pamela Anderson in the 90's then you don't like girlsBoneyCork wrote:I wouldn't stick my genitals anywhere near Pamela Anderson. Eww.
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There are many, many women on this planet who look far more attractive than Pamela Anderson and try far less hard to get that way.
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Then tell me what actual successful bands are better than the 70's/80's successful bands|darc| wrote:I listen to mostly old music, but that's a very stupid thing to say.
so and which famous girl actually is not like Pamela Anderson in the old days?BoneyCork wrote:So because I'm not attracted to some generic airhead LA bimbo with fake boobs, bleached hair and an inch-think layer of make-up on her face I'm suddenly gay? Rolling Eyes
There are many, many women on this planet who look far more attractive than Pamela Anderson and try far less hard to get that way.
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The worst thing is you're serious about all of thisJKKDARK wrote:Then tell me what actual successful bands are better than the 70's/80's successful bands|darc| wrote:I listen to mostly old music, but that's a very stupid thing to say.
so and which famous girl actually is not like Pamela Anderson in the old days?BoneyCork wrote:So because I'm not attracted to some generic airhead LA bimbo with fake boobs, bleached hair and an inch-think layer of make-up on her face I'm suddenly gay? Rolling Eyes
There are many, many women on this planet who look far more attractive than Pamela Anderson and try far less hard to get that way.
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Who cares about success? I would agree that most of the stuff that's being played on the radio nowadays is complete trash compared to stuff played 20-30 years ago. But if you want to choose good 80s music, most glam rock stuff is shit, which is why grunge became so popular--it was the opposite of that.JKKDARK wrote:Then tell me what actual successful bands are better than the 70's/80's successful bands|darc| wrote:I listen to mostly old music, but that's a very stupid thing to say.
The following are all good artists that produced great music after the 80s. Some I like more than others; some I don't like much but I recognize their musical contribution and would agree that they produced significant music.
311
Alanis Morissette
Ben Folds
The Black Crowes
Bush
Blind Melon
The Cardigans
The Cranberries
Dream Theater
Everclear
Flogging Molly
Foo Fighters
Franz Ferdinand
Green Day
Hootie & The Blowfish
Incubus
Jet
Johnny Cash
KoRn
Marilyn Manson
Matchbox 20
Modest Mouse
Neutral Milk Hotel
Nirvana
Norah Jones
The Offspring
Pearl Jam
The Pixies
The Polyphonic Spree
Rage Against The Machine
Rammstein
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Shakira
The Smashing Pumpkins
Soundgarden
Sublime
System of a Down
Tool
Violent Femmes
The White Stripes
I'm not going to say these are better than music from the 60s, 70s, and 80s. I personally listen to mostly 60s and 70s bands, so that is where my bias is. But to say that there has been no quality music since the 80s is just ridiculous.
Who cares about famous girls? Most famous girls that the public grovels over are generic airhead LA bimbos with fake boobs.JKKDARK wrote:so and which famous girl actually is not like Pamela Anderson in the old days?BoneyCork wrote:So because I'm not attracted to some generic airhead LA bimbo with fake boobs, bleached hair and an inch-think layer of make-up on her face I'm suddenly gay? Rolling Eyes
There are many, many women on this planet who look far more attractive than Pamela Anderson and try far less hard to get that way.
I can sit on a bench on my campus and watch girls go by, 7/8 of them are way more attractive than someone like Pamela Anderson or the Barbie dolls on television today. The other 1/8 I would still rather sleep with than Pam Anderson because they are real people, and I find much more passion and love in that.
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Most of what you've said so far has been subjective, though you've tried to present it as fact. You're entitled to your opinion, as is everybody else. Why can't you just be happy with your opinion without being a dick to people who disagree with you? Here's my opinion: A person who tries to force their opinions on others is either insecure with their own decision making ability, or is just an asshole with no regard for others.JKKDARK wrote:I thought non-serious discussion goes to JUNK, that's why I posted on the Off-Topic Forum
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Get off your fucking cloud already. I have no patience for people who criticize today's music without actually listening to anything outside of the pop stations.JKKDARK wrote:Then tell me what actual successful bands are better than the 70's/80's successful bands|darc| wrote:I listen to mostly old music, but that's a very stupid thing to say.
Here's a job for you. In your opinion, name bands that YOU think defined music, 90's and up, whether you like them or not. We'll just work from there.
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FirehouseFreaky Keneaki wrote:Get off your fucking cloud already. I have no patience for people who criticize today's music without actually listening to anything outside of the pop stations.JKKDARK wrote:Then tell me what actual successful bands are better than the 70's/80's successful bands|darc| wrote:I listen to mostly old music, but that's a very stupid thing to say.
Here's a job for you. In your opinion, name bands that YOU think defined music, 90's and up, whether you like them or not. We'll just work from there.
Black Crowes
Crashdïet
Vains Of Jenna
Shameless
Slaughter
Electric Angels
Saigon Kick
The Darkness
Wig Wam
Red Star Rebels
Velvet Revolver
Blackboard Jungle
Sweet Seduction
Johnny Crash
Silvertide
Trixter
Steelheart
Dirty White Boy
Nelson
Love/Hate
King Lizard
As you see, most of these bands are not on the "pop stations"
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It was a trick question I suppose. Since you hate new music so much, I didn't expect you to list anything besides Nirvana and Linkin Park. But since you appreciate newer music enough to delve into the underground music, why do you hate it so much? Whether bands like those you listed are popular or not, unless they're playing nothing but 80's covers, they're still representing today's music.JKKDARK wrote:why? you said "In your opinion, name bands that YOU think defined music, 90's and up, whether you like them or not. We'll just work from there."[/i]Freaky Keneaki wrote:Then what was the point of this whole argument? You just contradicted yourself.
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JKKDARK wrote:FirehouseFreaky Keneaki wrote:Get off your fucking cloud already. I have no patience for people who criticize today's music without actually listening to anything outside of the pop stations.JKKDARK wrote:Then tell me what actual successful bands are better than the 70's/80's successful bands|darc| wrote:I listen to mostly old music, but that's a very stupid thing to say.
Here's a job for you. In your opinion, name bands that YOU think defined music, 90's and up, whether you like them or not. We'll just work from there.
Black Crowes
Crashdïet
Vains Of Jenna
Shameless
Slaughter
Electric Angels
Saigon Kick
The Darkness
Wig Wam
Red Star Rebels
Velvet Revolver
Blackboard Jungle
Sweet Seduction
Johnny Crash
Silvertide
Trixter
Steelheart
Dirty White Boy
Nelson
Love/Hate
King Lizard
As you see, most of these bands are not on the "pop stations"
You just listed bands you like from the 90s onward, not music that defined the 90s onward, therefore contradicting your argument that nothing from the 90s onward was/is good.
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