Do you smoke?

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:01 pm

Anyone got any tips on smoking the Blacks (Djarum)? They tasted like absolute shit to me, but that was my first time smoking anything.

On a side note, any way NOT to smell like fucking ass after smoking?

I'm not trying to chain smoke or anything, but I must say, it was pretty relaxing (which was why I wanted to try 'em in the first place). But they tasted pretty awful. Probably a first time thing. They smell pretty good though.

Wagh · Post by **Wagh** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:06 pm

I never understood why people liked Djarums Blacks. Terrible stuff. Djarum's tobacco in general is just bad. Try smoking an American Spirit unfilitered. Sweet tasting tobacco none of that clove filler.

jaredfogle · Post by **jaredfogle** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:13 pm

Blacks do taste bad and smell good.

Thomas · Post by **Thomas** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:27 pm

I liked Djarum Blacks the first time I bought a pack, but I picked one up last week and they were absolutely awful. The smell of clove cigarette seems to get stuck longer on clothes and other stuff, so not sure how to not smell afterward besides air out outside or some spray/cologne to mask it.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:11 pm

I just had another one. If what people find tastes good about these is the clove, then these just suck ass. It's like I opened up the spice cabinet, crushed some random shit into a rolling paper, then lit it on fire.

For those of you who do smoke these, how long are you drawing on the cig before you inhale? I find that these are damn strong (compounded with the fact that I've never really smoked shit before) and that the spices really burn my mouth up a bit. Also, in terms of the "euphoric" feeling, how are you going about achieving that?

Edit: Yeah, the burning is definately the spice. It smells/tastes exactly like cloves (as I guess it should). Been awhile since I've had anything with those in it, but yeah, after confirming it, that's definately what the overpowering taste is. Tasty...

Post by **Roofus** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:16 pm

jaredfogle wrote:Blacks do taste bad and smell good.

African Americans.

Post by **|darc|** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:20 pm

Nick wrote:Anyone got any tips on smoking the Blacks (Djarum)? They tasted like absolute shit to me, but that was my first time smoking anything.

On a side note, any way NOT to smell like fucking ass after smoking?

I'm not trying to chain smoke or anything, but I must say, it was pretty relaxing (which was why I wanted to try 'em in the first place). But they tasted pretty awful. Probably a first time thing. They smell pretty good though.

You get used to them. When I started smoking again after Katrina, I found them repulsive.

Blacks are strong and are probably not most people's first smoke.

You might like the vanillas better.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:22 pm

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. The smoke burns enough, but that spice is just like a double hit.

How do you smoke them, usually, darc? Small puffs or big drags?

Thomas · Post by **Thomas** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:28 pm

I smoke them like normal cigarettes, long drags. Another thing I noticed about cloves this time, is they make everything you eat or drink afterwards taste horribe, and also numb your mouth a bit. I've never had the Vanillas, so I can't suggest them as something softer, but the Blacks pretty strong. I forget the other kind of cloves I have had, but they were filterless and strong as hell.

MulletMan13 · Post by **MulletMan13** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:03 pm

I bought a pack of Djarum Bali Hai's, and they have turned me away from smoking completely.

Well, back to being a non-smoker...

... and just when I was getting to be popular too

Post by **|darc|** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:09 pm

Nick wrote:Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. The smoke burns enough, but that spice is just like a double hit.

How do you smoke them, usually, darc? Small puffs or big drags?

Either really... depends on my mood. As a beginner, though, you should take small puffs, I guess. Keep in mind they do burn a lot more slowly, so don't force it.

Oh, and I forgot to mention: are you inhaling? Because if your mouth is burning, the taste is overwhelmingly obnoxious, and you aren't getting euphoria, it sounds like you aren't inhaling.

Thomas wrote:I smoke them like normal cigarettes, long drags. Another thing I noticed about cloves this time, is they make everything you eat or drink afterwards taste horribe, and also numb your mouth a bit. I've never had the Vanillas, so I can't suggest them as something softer, but the Blacks pretty strong. I forget the other kind of cloves I have had, but they were filterless and strong as hell.

Cloves numb your mouth and throat. They were originally smoked to kill pain by Indonesians.

And yeah, they do make food taste bad... I spit often and gargle water when I'm done sometimes.

Luriden · Post by **Luriden** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:59 pm

Whenever I'm online, I always see tons of people talking about smoking cloves. And yet, in person, I know no one who smokes cloves and I never see anyone smoking them in public or at school. Is it just a nerd thing?

Post by **|darc|** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:58 pm

Freaky Keneaki wrote:Whenever I'm online, I always see tons of people talking about smoking cloves. And yet, in person, I know no one who smokes cloves and I never see anyone smoking them in public or at school. Is it just a nerd thing?

No, it has nothing to do with nerds. I see a few people on my campus smoking cloves.

CupNoodle · Post by **CupNoodle** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:25 am

Freaky Keneaki wrote:Whenever I'm online, I always see tons of people talking about smoking cloves. And yet, in person, I know no one who smokes cloves and I never see anyone smoking them in public or at school. Is it just a nerd thing?

I think it's more a convenience thing. I only see Cloves at smoke shops, at least around here. It's far easier to grab a pack of Reds on the way to work than go out of your way to the nearest tobacconist.

Post by **pixel** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:38 am

Freaky Keneaki wrote:Whenever I'm online, I always see tons of people talking about smoking cloves. And yet, in person, I know no one who smokes cloves and I never see anyone smoking them in public or at school. Is it just a nerd thing?

Blacks were the first thing I ever smoked. In the dorms I lived in last year, there were big with the group of people I associated with. Granted, that's only a small percentage of the population, but there's always a few in the ashtray outside.
Also, don't buy blacks if you expect the same experience as a regular cigarette. They burn slower and you should take smaller drags.

Post by **I.M. Weasel** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:51 pm

Freaky Keneaki wrote:Whenever I'm online, I always see tons of people talking about smoking cloves. And yet, in person, I know no one who smokes cloves and I never see anyone smoking them in public or at school. Is it just a nerd thing?

Cloves have always been the 'underground' cool trendy thing to do. People dont actually 'smoke' them...(like a reg pack of ciggs).. People buy a pack to smoke 1 or 2, then end up having them sit on their shelf.

People who actually smoke cloves (that is there main brand) are either :

1) Uber goths that will give it up in a month, after realizing their lungs are fuxord'.

2) Old people from yester-year. between this and lucky strikes, they will be getting cancer in 1-2 weeks.

Post by **|darc|** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:54 pm

I.M. Weasel wrote:
Freaky Keneaki wrote:Whenever I'm online, I always see tons of people talking about smoking cloves. And yet, in person, I know no one who smokes cloves and I never see anyone smoking them in public or at school. Is it just a nerd thing?
Cloves have always been the 'underground' cool trendy thing to do. People dont actually 'smoke' them...(like a reg pack of ciggs).. People buy a pack to smoke 1 or 2, then end up having them sit on their shelf.

People who actually smoke cloves (that is there main brand) are either :

1) Uber goths that will give it up in a month, after realizing their lungs are fuxord'.

2) Old people from yester-year. between this and lucky strikes, they will be getting cancer in 1-2 weeks.

Say that as much as you want, but in Indonesia 90% of smokers smoke clove cigarettes.

Strapping Scherzo · Post by **Strapping Scherzo** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:05 pm

Back when I was in high school, some people smoked what we called 'beedies' back then. At least that's how I spell it. They almost looked like joints. They were tobacco (plus cloves probably) rolled in a greenish leaf. They were pretty small, too. You could get them in most stores that had a good cigarette selection. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Could you point out a couple brands?

Post by **|darc|** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:24 pm

Strapping Scherzo wrote:Back when I was in high school, some people smoked what we called 'beedies' back then. At least that's how I spell it. They almost looked like joints. They were tobacco (plus cloves probably) rolled in a greenish leaf. They were pretty small, too. You could get them in most stores that had a good cigarette selection. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Could you point out a couple brands?

Bidis are a type of Indian cigarette wrapped in a tendu leaf.. they don't contain cloves; they're a lot worse for you than regular cigarettes.

Thomas · Post by **Thomas** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:27 pm

Strapping Scherzo wrote:Back when I was in high school, some people smoked what we called 'beedies' back then. At least that's how I spell it. They almost looked like joints. They were tobacco (plus cloves probably) rolled in a greenish leaf. They were pretty small, too. You could get them in most stores that had a good cigarette selection. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Could you point out a couple brands?

I smoked a few back in high school, but haven't seen any place to buy them since I started to smoke regularly. I quite enjoy beedies.