Quake 3A vs Unreal Tournament

Cid Highwind · Post by **Cid Highwind** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:32 pm

I've been playing Q3A for a while and I really enjoy the game. But I don't have Unreal Tournament. Is it any better than Quake 3 or worse?

I've played both games on pc (both being the demo versions) and I liked both. But how much is UT worth? (I need a guideline in case I'm going to look it up at ebay)

Also is the game just as smooth as Q3A when playing in splitscreen?

Cid H.

DuffMan · Post by **DuffMan** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:23 pm

I like it better, the graphics are not as good, but I think it runs better then Q3, there is some slow down in Q3 which is not present in Unreal.

LyingWake · Post by **LyingWake** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:37 pm

I think it's better. I like the controller much better in Unreal Tournament than in Quake III Arena.

You can find a copy of Unreal Tournament for less then $10. I found a copy that was $4, and a couple bucks to ship, but I didn't get there in time.

Cid Highwind · Post by **Cid Highwind** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:41 pm

What's different in the controls then? (the only thing I can think of is that UT uses a primary and secondary attack)

LyingWake · Post by **LyingWake** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:50 pm

It seems as if Q3A moves about more freely, and is a bit sensitive, as the where UT is not.

law · Post by **law** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:32 am

q3 > ut, but still both of them are excellent games and should be bought
nuff said

skar · Post by **skar** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:12 am

the funny thing about UT is that it's got massive autoaim... makes it really nice to play...

Bertrude · Post by **Bertrude** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:40 am

I tend to play them both with a mate using the split screen option and from that point of view Quake III comes up trumps all the way. UT has a lot choppier frame rate in split screen which makes it a tad unplayable at times, especially if you've got some extra bots running around too.

The level design is more varied in UT though and the weapons are more interesting but I think the graphics are better generally in Quake and the playablility is also better in my humble opinion.

Matisfaction · Post by **Matisfaction** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:09 am

UT. It's more fun to play (which is what's most important really).

Imerion · Post by **Imerion** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:31 am

I prefer Quake. Technically wise its a whole lot better. No slowdowns, not even in four player mode and the graphics is superb. Just look at those screens. Also, Quake 3 can still be played online. I agree that UT has more/better levels but Quake 3 wins because of the superior engine.
Anyway, you should definitively have both!

Cid Highwind · Post by **Cid Highwind** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:14 am

Just a slight correction: Quake 3 does have slowdowns, sometimes when playing with 2p splitscreen the FR is slightly below the nice 30FPS, though it's a minor detail, since it doesn't affect gameplay.

But thanks for all the input here, I'm going to try and get my hands on it

(ps. I enjoy the forums here a lot)

LyingWake · Post by **LyingWake** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:52 pm

You might as well get both. You can most certainly find them both for less than $10.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:37 pm

Unreal Tournament is the best online multi-player shooter ever, hands down. 2K4 is the bomb. Unfortunately, the DC version is severely killed by the fact that online play no longer exists. Q3 on Dreamcast still has online play, amazingly enough. Stick with that on your Dreamy, get UT2004 for PC and be done with it.

Cid Highwind · Post by **Cid Highwind** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:47 pm

Well I won't even play the game online, it will only be splitscreen fun for me. If only I had a BBA....

Oh and I'm not a PC gamer at all, let alone FPS

LyingWake · Post by **LyingWake** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:15 pm

Q3A for the Dreamcast will always will online. You can type your own server IP in there.

Unreal Tournament will not since it uses / used the official SEGA servers, which are no longer up.

Unreal Tournament's map for the PC are different than the Dreamcast's version, BTW. At least, that's what I've heard.

Playing the PC versions of most modern games are not even an option for me because of the speed of my PC. And upgrading isn't even worth it, for me.

Sultan of Saturn · Post by **Sultan of Saturn** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:07 am

ut is easier to jump into and play than q3 (better controls imho). Plus it is on the cheap. If you want a story for your fps, pick up Soldier of Fortune. If you want atmosphere and some killer music, get KISS Psycho Circus. Nice examples of quake 2 and lithtech engines used nicely on the old dc.

GyroVorbis · Post by **GyroVorbis** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:00 am

Quake III Arena runs a lot smoother than Unreal Tournament. Quake might have more slowdowns (I don't remember), but Unreal can definately get a bit choppy there...

I can't decide which I like better, though. I own both of them and quite frankly I love them.

crc73 · Post by **crc73** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:26 am

What controllers do you guys use to play Q3A and UT?

I've got Q3A, but haven't played that much, because it's hard to get the hang of the analogue stick - it's not the same as the mouse with the PC version. And I refuse to get a keyboard and mouse for the DC just to play it.

Will I ever really get to enjoy Q3A without them?

GyroVorbis · Post by **GyroVorbis** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:33 am

Hell, I enjoy them both with the controller.

I have the PC mouse and keyboard. I highly recommend you buy them though. I got this thingy from Lik-Sang.com that allows me to use a PSone/PS2 controller, PC mouse/keyboard, and Saturn pad on my DC. You can imagine how 1337 it is to play Samba De Amigo with a Saturn 3D pad or play Q3A with my wireless PC keyboard and mouse.

Cid Highwind · Post by **Cid Highwind** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:52 am

crc73 wrote:What controllers do you guys use to play Q3A and UT?

I've got Q3A, but haven't played that much, because it's hard to get the hang of the analogue stick - it's not the same as the mouse with the PC version. And I refuse to get a keyboard and mouse for the DC just to play it.

Will I ever really get to enjoy Q3A without them?

Of course you will

Although not as accurate as when playing with the Thumb Pad to look, I use the following control scheme:

Thumb Pad:
up: Run forward (always run on DUH

)
down: Walk backward
left/right: Turn left/right

Dpad:
left / right : switch weapons.
up: zoom (to be honest it's completely useless when playing with a controller)
down: I don't even know it though I've played the game last saturday night the whole night.

X: strafe left
Y: look down
A: look up
B: strafe right
L: Jump
R: FEUER!!!

and since I have this Quantum Fighterpad:

I have the 5th and 6th front buttons asigned to the Dpad left and Dpad right buttons. It allows me to program them, so I programmed them to the buttons linked to the weapon switch. Very handy since it's easier to use those buttons than the Dpad while in the middle of a battle.

I took this control scheme from Fur Fighters where it's listed as the second control scheme.
My brother plays Quake with the thumbpad as a looking thing, and he walks using the Y button. Although it seems easier to aim up and down with, I can't play with it as all

Ps. If you play FPS' with the DC pad I can recommend you this controller. It's a bit bigger and therefor fits my hands better, so I don't hurt my hands like I do when holding the Sega pad tight. The only drawbacks of this controller are the slightly less comfortable thumbpad (though it isn't a burden at all), and the triggers. The triggers suck.... I can't find a picture of it showing it, but your fingers slip off of it all the time. What I did was find a patch of rough rubber, and glued it on it, now it's the perfect FPS gamepad.