DC Nincest 64

WRAGGSTER · Post by **WRAGGSTER** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:13 pm

Chat about GPF N64 project in here.

A word to the flamers, carry on and ruin this thread at your peril.

typoEDR · Post by **typoEDR** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:20 pm

Although I'm not sure how it'll run (with all of the tricks we can throw at it), I'm still fairly excited about this project, and kudos goes to the author of having the cojones to achieve another 'Dreamcast impossibility'.

Can I assume this emulator will be homebrew-oriented? As much as I'd love to see Mario 64 or even Crusin' USA running on the DC, I'm not sure if the RAM will play friendly... or the amount of buttons on the controller. Imagine having to use two DC controllers to emulate one N64 controller? It'd be pretty funny.

Carry on with the work. It's stuff like this that continues to support my reasoning that the DC was the best thing I've ever bought.

WRAGGSTER · Post by **WRAGGSTER** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:22 pm

this emulator doesnt support any commercial games as far as i know

but yes its amazing just to see it working

Warmachine · Post by **Warmachine** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:34 pm

WRAGGSTER wrote:this emulator doesnt support any commercial games as far as i know

but yes its amazing just to see it working

I thought he said he couldnt get anything to run on it except the Waverunner or something like that title screen.

WRAGGSTER · Post by **WRAGGSTER** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:38 pm

stars & fire demos too

Ian Micheal · Post by **Ian Micheal** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 8:31 pm

You can allways get the pc version and test what it runs should be almost the same. It's cool to see things tryed that are very hard todo. Start new one's as i know it gets fustrating working on the same project.
good luck troy i know your talent and skill ive seen it in action.

Any of the emus for n64 work there is a nes and other emus for the n64 written in asm.

Kamjin · Post by **Kamjin** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 10:31 pm

GPF,
Any eta on a "fiddle with" release?

Post by **Quzar** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:59 am

yea, you should release the sources to the GBA emu and this. At least then we could see um. Just make sure it dosnt become like GP/DC where you get someone compiling and releasing it and it gets all blown up and people complaining etc =P

OneThirty8 · Post by **OneThirty8** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:23 am

quzar wrote:yea, you should release the sources to the GBA emu and this. At least then we could see um. Just make sure it dosnt become like GP/DC where you get someone compiling and releasing it and it gets all blown up and people complaining etc =P

He can't really release GPL'ed source code (which I believe VBA and any derivative works are) without allowing people to compile and release binaries.

Post by **Quzar** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 2:11 am

Yea I know, but if he asks, i think most of the DC scene would respect his wish, or at least the coders.

Prophet][ · Post by **Prophet][** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 3:15 am

The known DC scene would respect his wish, like all the people at this site and CV and boob etc, but their are others out their likes the ones doing bleem releases from the leaked code, the hl release etc that wouldn't care what the aurthor wants

Mastaboog749 · Post by **Mastaboog749** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 7:44 am

Damn I leave for a while and get a N64 emulator...

Vchat20 · Post by **Vchat20** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 8:54 am

why would emulating the n64 controller be difficult? youd only really be missing the Z button. all the other buttons are already available on the DC controller and scary enough, in nearly the same places.

as far as commercial games are concerned, unless the emulator, when loaded into the RAM, is horrendously larger, a lot of the smaller games (ie. Mario64) should be very possible imho.

other than that, im glad someones taking a whack at the believed impossible n64 emulato project.

ethoscapade · Post by **ethoscapade** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 9:31 am

Vchat20 wrote:why would emulating the n64 controller be difficult? youd only really be missing the Z button. all the other buttons are already available on the DC controller and scary enough, in nearly the same places.

as far as commercial games are concerned, unless the emulator, when loaded into the RAM, is horrendously larger, a lot of the smaller games (ie. Mario64) should be very possible imho.

other than that, im glad someones taking a whack at the believed impossible n64 emulato project.

not true about the controls - there are also two more face buttons. the way i see it, we could map the c-buttons onto the DC's D-pad and that would work for 90% of games (except the few N64 games that used the D-pad, or the ones that used C-down and C-left as action buttons, but those probably wouldn't run anyway).

then i think we'd want to map Z to the left trigger on the DC, because again, the L buttons was hardly used compared to the Z button. if we need, we've then got two free face buttons for the L button and menu functions, awkward as that may sound.

the only thing this may not account for is homebrew... i'm not sure how many of those used the D-pad prominently, and this setup just ignores it.

...we might need a database..

ANYWAY: i would also like to add that i am very much intrigued by ian's saying that it may actually be possible to run (few) games fullspeed since the DC and N64 use so many of the same routines.

Sanchez · Post by **Sanchez** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 11:23 am

ethoscapade wrote:ANYWAY: i would also like to add that i am very much intrigued by ian's saying that it may actually be possible to run (few) games fullspeed since the DC and N64 use so many of the same routines.

Where's he saying this at? The N64 and DC are *nothing* alike in hardware. I think the idea was that HLE *may* get you somewhere, but only for things using the original libraries, and not doing any outside hardware tricks. I've not looked too far into the homebrew code, but I doubt too much of it was compiled via the Nintendo libraries just due to legalities, etc.

Before this was announced I had messed with Mupen as well and gotten the r4300 interpreter compiled (but not properly linked.) You've no idea how impressive it actually is that he's gotten anything displayed.

WRAGGSTER · Post by **WRAGGSTER** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 11:39 am

"Before this was announced I had messed with Mupen as well and gotten the r4300 interpreter compiled (but not properly linked.) You've no idea how impressive it actually is that he's gotten anything displayed."

My sentiments exactly

archduke · Post by **archduke** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 11:41 am

this is good news... but im not going to hold my breath, nor am i expecting much (certainly not full speed).

Post by **Quzar** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:29 pm

Sanchez wrote:Before this was announced I had messed with Mupen as well and gotten the r4300 interpreter compiled (but not properly linked.) You've no idea how impressive it actually is that he's gotten anything displayed.

I had gotten farther

The only thing i didnt understand was how to work the plugin system.

Darth Revan · Post by **Darth Revan** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:46 pm

I can't find the thread regaurding GBA emu

Warmachine · Post by **Warmachine** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 4:23 pm

Darth Revan wrote:I can't find the thread regaurding GBA emu

Use the search button.