doom 64

law · Post by **law** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 4:47 pm

anyone up for porting this ? best doom ever imho

http://www.doom2.net/~elbryan/

and a really nice port it is too

cybdmn · Post by **cybdmn** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 7:42 pm

Needs a lot of coding. Its based on latest Doomsday Engine.
At least, the sources for the Doom64.dll are availible. So it would maybe be possible.

yodanut · Post by **yodanut** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 8:20 pm

I believe BlackAura (maker of nxDoom) once mentioned that a port of Doomsday would be difficult (perhaps impossible) because the engine was in ways more complex and sophisticated than Quake 2. So without the Doomsday engine there's no Doom 64 TC (which does very much kick ass, BTW).

XDelusion · Post by **XDelusion** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 12:30 am

Ya, I'll roll over in my un-dug grave the day this is ported over!

In the mean time, be sure to take time out to try it on the PC, it is really quite the HIGH Quality MOD!

BlackAura · Post by **BlackAura** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 3:53 am

Yeah, I did look at Doomsday, and it's certainly way too advanced for me to port over. Or even comprehend, to tell the truth.

I did consider porting an updated Doom engine. Initially, I tried a Boom-compatable engine which had a lot of really nice features (don't remember the name, it was a rather obscure one), but it just didn't work properly on the DC - it just reset the system.

I think I might be able to port prBoom over now (but not when I started nxDoom), but I'd have to change quite a lot of it's features to get it to work on the DC. There's a few that either don't make sense on a DC, or would require a lot of modification.

law · Post by **law** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 9:19 am

hmm i have no idea of dc coding or dc linux, but couldnt you cut out everything from dclinux apart from joypad, keyboard sound and gfx ( and lan support

) from dclinux ? prboom already runs on that, its only slow bc of memory lack

BlackAura · Post by **BlackAura** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 10:24 am

Hmm... Yes, that's probably possible. I'm currently experimenting with building small Linux systems that run off floppy discs on a PC, and it might be possible to do something similar with LinuxDC. Maybe.

That said, I've never managed to get the Linux kernel to even compile for the SH-4. And I've never managed to make a bootable LinuxDC disc aside from the pre-build images.

But even then, the Linux kernel probably takes up a good 4MB or more of RAM, even without the RAM disc. Maybe if you made the thing boot directly into prBoom (instead of init, as in a normal Linux system) and re-wrote parts of prBoom to use the Linux framebuffer drivers (which are pretty slow compared to the stuff you can do with KOS) it could well work. But it would be quite a challenge. Not to mention the fact that it would be a real pain the the backside to selfboot without a Linux system.

I might try that one day. But I think it might be easier to port it over to KallistiOS, or wait for KOS 1.3.x to settle down a bit - it's a more Unix-like system than KOS 1.2.0, and would require less rewriting to get stuff working. It's actually turning into an OS now, instead of just being a function library.

Master Higgins · Post by **Master Higgins** » Tue Jul 15, 2003 8:20 pm

can somone gimme a brief history on the doomsday engine? Is it the same engine as doom or what? Heavily modifyed? If so who modified it? Anyways tell me bout it I am interested

cybdmn · Post by **cybdmn** » Wed Jul 16, 2003 5:00 am

Heavy modified port.

http://www.doomsdayhq.com/

XDelusion · Post by **XDelusion** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 1:37 pm

VERY VERY Heavily Modified, goto:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/deng/

mmnpsrsoskl · Post by **mmnpsrsoskl** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 8:07 am

Erm, wouldn't the DC have to load the WAD file onto memory to be able to play it? If so, it wouldn't be able to do that.

BlackAura · Post by **BlackAura** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 8:24 am

No, it doesn't. The PC versions happily ran on systems with 4MB of RAM, even though the WAD files were 10MB for Doom 1, 12MB for Ultimate Doom, and 15MB (maybe more) for Doom 2. It'll happily load stuff as it requires it from the disc.

law · Post by **law** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:18 pm

prboom on dclinux is the best example for that

skedar99 · Post by **skedar99** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 6:34 am

id forget bout it would be very hardsomeone did ill buy em a beer