MY system16 emu for DC has been warezEd

Captain Skyhawk · Post by **Captain Skyhawk** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 2:45 pm

If this emulator is selled with or without roms than thats the lowest thing you can do. It's even worse than stealing because the author did it all in his free time and don't ask any money for it. Another just profit from his work and trust.

But I can slighty can understand if they offer the emu with roms on a site. Still illegal and not good, but for people who can't find the roms or can't make such disks a solution. And I don't think you can be mad about that Reaper? You helped me and a lot of other people back in the time with the Atari 5200 remember?

bizzle · Post by **bizzle** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 8:15 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:
Xylene wrote:I believe a version of Utopia has a thing about if you bought it you were ripped off too.
No it doesn't

DreamSNES does.....

actually utopia does to then, like i said

http://homebrew.dcemulation.org/Utopia.htm

reaper2k2 · Post by **reaper2k2** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 8:15 pm

was just a shock and the admin of the site talked to me on msn saying he was going to sell it to

oh well

Post by **|darc|** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 8:36 pm

reaper2k2, rerelease beta 2 as beta 3 and don't even update anything, just to make everyone redownload it, and create a screen that says "If you paid for this System 16 emulator, you were cheated. This System 16 emulator is free to download from the web sites shown below. If you downloaded this emulator with ROM images packaged together, you are using an modified version and it is unsupported by RADsoft.

For a correct, original copy, download it from RADsoft, DCEmulation, Consolevision, or boob!."

and provide links to all of the sites.

Providing ROMs with emulators is an absolute disgrace to the emulator authors.

TreyDay · Post by **TreyDay** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 9:11 pm

Where are they selling it? I don't see any on eBay. If they're selling it on their website, I doubt that it would be selling well because how many would trust a warez sitethat is selling illegal software?

Nyarlathotep · Post by **Nyarlathotep** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 4:39 am

Xylene wrote:

Thats a version of Utopia I have never even seen before

reaper2k2 wrote:was just a shock and the admin of the site talked to me on msn saying he was going to sell it to

You should stop talking to Cless on MSN then....

reaper2k2 · Post by **reaper2k2** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 5:13 am

LOL nar

hee i find that funny dont know why but i do LMAO!

Prophet][ · Post by **Prophet][** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 7:25 am

Give us the guys e-mail, we'll spam him like hell

BlackAura · Post by **BlackAura** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 8:16 am

Prophet][ - Good plan

Actually, if he's that much of a [insert favourite expletive here], then he deserves it.

|darc| wrote:Providing ROMs with emulators is an absolute disgrace to the emulator authors.

I agree with that. Abusing someone's work like that is one of the lowest things you can do.

Reaper - If you want, I can give you some code to make sure that the PNG files can not be changed at all, so that if even one byte is changed the program will complain, or just not work, like DreamSnes does. Then nobody can remove all those disclaimers you want to put on there.

I can (theoretically) think of one way you can make sure nobody can sell the discs - you make the program only work on a specific DC, by reading it's serial number (or something) out of the flash chip, and only booting if it's valid. That way, any discs sold, or images from a warez site, would be useless.

Of course, that'd make it nearly impossible to work out how to burn, and it'd also stop distribution of image files and SBI packages. And that probably wouldn't stop people from selling them - the little fact that it doesn't work means nothing. Not a good idea, really.

perry · Post by **perry** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 8:28 am

BlackAura wrote:Prophet][ - Good plan

Actually, if he's that much of a [insert favourite expletive here], then he deserves it.

|darc| wrote:Providing ROMs with emulators is an absolute disgrace to the emulator authors.
I agree with that. Abusing someone's work like that is one of the lowest things you can do.

Reaper - If you want, I can give you some code to make sure that the PNG files can not be changed at all, so that if even one byte is changed the program will complain, or just not work, like DreamSnes does. Then nobody can remove all those disclaimers you want to put on there.

I can (theoretically) think of one way you can make sure nobody can sell the discs - you make the program only work on a specific DC, by reading it's serial number (or something) out of the flash chip, and only booting if it's valid. That way, any discs sold, or images from a warez site, would be useless.

Of course, that'd make it nearly impossible to work out how to burn, and it'd also stop distribution of image files and SBI packages. And that probably wouldn't stop people from selling them - the little fact that it doesn't work means nothing. Not a good idea, really.

I'd definatly go with the code to stop the PNG files being altered.

Captain Skyhawk · Post by **Captain Skyhawk** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 9:25 am

BlackAura wrote:I can (theoretically) think of one way you can make sure nobody can sell the discs - you make the program only work on a specific DC, by reading it's serial number (or something) out of the flash chip, and only booting if it's valid. That way, any discs sold, or images from a warez site, would be useless.

is that technically possible BlackAura? That is a cool possibility, when an author wants to betatest something for only betatesters he can use this method. Come to think about it, wasn't HairBuddah (Blur) trying to do that...

Captain Skyhawk · Post by **Captain Skyhawk** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 9:28 am

BlackAura, could such an applictation to figure out the serial of the dc look like the following screenshot:

http://geocities.com/hyper_gamer13/blur ... ing_01.jpg (GeoCities, so copy+paste).

toastman · Post by **toastman** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 12:53 pm

Yeah, but you see ours would work and not crash the minute it tries to execute something other than a printf.

perry · Post by **perry** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 2:49 pm

Xylene wrote:
Nyarlathotep wrote:
Xylene wrote:I believe a version of Utopia has a thing about if you bought it you were ripped off too.
No it doesn't

DreamSNES does.....
actually utopia does to then, like i said

http://homebrew.dcemulation.org/Utopia.htm

You sure that one is made by Utopia ? I've never seen it and it says at the bottom 'Credits : Utopia' instead of like By utopia...Seems more like they're saying thanks...

BlackAura · Post by **BlackAura** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 4:42 pm

Captain Skyhawk - Yeah, probably. Except you could pop it up on the screen, so you wouldn't need a cable / BBA to do it.

BornStupid · Post by **BornStupid** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 5:25 pm

reaper2k2 wrote:
thanks perry2175

siad nicely dude!

NP Brother.

yeah Like One Thirty said you should do that...but like, I tihnk it was DreamSnes that had 'If you paid for this emulator then you were cheated, it is free'. Something like that.

WTF, so when someone flames you they're rude and immature, but when you start calling me an idiot (implying it obviously) especially when I STATE that's my POV, you feel it's ok?

mariobro · Post by **mariobro** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 6:22 pm

Reaper, not to make you angrier than you already are... but your emulator will sooner or later show up in Asia, Latin America, and Eastern Europe...

and yes, it will be sold. It will be sold with as many roms as they can fit on a CD...

The Asian piracy cartels, the Yakuza (Japanese Mob), the Russian and Korean-Mexican mob are all to blame.

As usual, the developer does it for non-profit motives, but the piracy cartels will make a nice profit from it.

Prophet][ · Post by **Prophet][** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 6:48 pm

mariobro wrote:Reaper, not to make you angrier than you already are... but your emulator will sooner or later show up in Asia, Latin America, and Eastern Europe...

and yes, it will be sold. It will be sold with as many roms as they can fit on a CD...

The Asian piracy cartels, the Yakuza (Japanese Mob), the Russian and Korean-Mexican mob are all to blame.

As usual, the developer does it for non-profit motives, but the piracy cartels will make a nice profit from it.

Yea posibly true, but wouldn't it of been better if the seller wasn't telling him about it and being a d.ick about it

reaper2k2 · Post by **reaper2k2** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 10:45 pm

OH well shows over 800 hits today supose there looking for the warez version

ive hit 10.000 hits 800 hits a day at the moment soon as it was on some warez sites my hits went up

s700pid · Post by **s700pid** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 11:44 pm

Ahh the Utopia boot disk version 1.2 is supposed to have VGA box support. I can say that the VGA box support doesn't work, well not for me. Like the other Utopia boot disk hardly worth the CD it's burnt on IMO.