Dreamcast Virus/Trojan Thingy

EvilSporkMan · Post by **EvilSporkMan** » Sun Mar 30, 2003 12:26 pm

I've written a program to clear most of the Dreamcast's Flash ROM pretty much as soon as it boots. It's probably the firstish DC trojan. Go me? =)

So...anyone want to try it out?

EvilSporkMan · Post by **EvilSporkMan** » Sun Mar 30, 2003 1:02 pm

Oops...this should be in the main forum. Someone move it please?

Post by **I.M. Weasel** » Sun Mar 30, 2003 1:02 pm

will that cause permanent damage?

EvilSporkMan · Post by **EvilSporkMan** » Sun Mar 30, 2003 1:07 pm

I don't know, it's untested. What I know:
There are five partitions, 0 through 4. Partition 0 is read-only, and partition 1 is reserved (probably writable). The program only tries to delete partitions 2 through 4 right now. All I KNOW is that the system configuration stuff (language, audio, autostart) is in partition 2. PSO stuff is probably also erased. I'm working on my flashrom READER program as well, eventually it'll get the contents of these partitions so I'll be able to tell you what exactly is erased.

EverStoned · Post by **EverStoned** » Sun Mar 30, 2003 4:24 pm

That's just a virus.

A trojan would have to use the modem..

BlackAura · Post by **BlackAura** » Sun Mar 30, 2003 8:06 pm

It'd be a trojan if it were strapped to a game.

Note to self - do not use any games written by EvilSporkMan.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Sun Mar 30, 2003 8:08 pm

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2003 5:24 pm Post subject:

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That's just a virus.

A trojan would have to use the modem..

wrong!

Post by **|darc|** » Sun Mar 30, 2003 8:12 pm

Why'd you even have to start? Now we're going to be seeing shit all over.

EverStoned · Post by **EverStoned** » Sun Mar 30, 2003 9:06 pm

El Guapo wrote:
That's just a virus.

A trojan would have to use the modem..
wrong!

Uh..no.

A trojan horse opens a computer or machine's ports, allowing a remote user to access the files or execute code.

A virus deletes files, memory, and even EEPROMs.

BlackAura · Post by **BlackAura** » Sun Mar 30, 2003 9:27 pm

A trojan is a virus that is attatched to a useful program. When you run that useful program, the trojan runs with it. Then, it can do whatever it likes. Many of them do turn off all the system's security, but that's not necessarily what a Trojan does.

It derives from the phrose "trojan horse", in case you don't know.

EvilSporkMan · Post by **EvilSporkMan** » Sun Mar 30, 2003 9:37 pm

A virus isn't just a program that does bad stuff, it has to copy itself into your programs and run when they start, hence the "virus/trojan/thingy" label. I wonder if this could be attached to warez to really screw over warez monkeys...=P

EverStoned · Post by **EverStoned** » Sun Mar 30, 2003 9:54 pm

BlackAura wrote:A trojan is a virus that is attatched to a useful program. When you run that useful program, the trojan runs with it. Then, it can do whatever it likes. Many of them do turn off all the system's security, but that's not necessarily what a Trojan does.

It derives from the phrose "trojan horse", in case you don't know.

You can make any program do that with anyother program..just ask the DBC...

Anyway, when I think trojan, I think open ports, etc.

And yes, of course I know where the term comes from.

BlackAura · Post by **BlackAura** » Sun Mar 30, 2003 10:13 pm

And I spelt "phrase" wrong. Oops.

EvilSporkMan - You could attatch it to warez if you want. If anyone asks for a Bleemcast beta, you could give them an image of this instead. But that would just be evil.

EverStoned - A trojan usually does open ports and so on, but it doesn't have to. A trojan is a type of virus that spreads by attatching itself to another program, and running whenever it runs. The original program is still there, but it'll run something else as well. Most other viruses just replace any programs they infect. And they had trojans long before networked computers were commonplace. There were a lot of them on the Amiga.

EvilSporkMan · Post by **EvilSporkMan** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 2:05 pm

Heh...Can we put it up on the site and direct people asking for illegal software to it? =P I don't get many warez requests, personally, and I'd love to know what consequences running this program has.

Master Higgins · Post by **Master Higgins** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 3:06 pm

2 words- not cool
u would spend do much time and effort just to create somethnig destructive? U couldve started a homebrew game or something, I think u should destroy it

Moe the Bartender · Post by **Moe the Bartender** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 5:08 pm

why did u create this? this will discourage people from downloading stuff for the now because they will worry about the virus

Sultan of Saturn · Post by **Sultan of Saturn** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 5:08 pm

I haven't heard much of any viruses on the DC or know much about computer viruses in general; but if my memory serves me right, there was actually a computer virus in the Japanese Dreamcast release of Atlier Marie (the correct title escapes me). I am sure that The Kron would be able to confirm or clarify this as this isn't the first time a question of this nature has been asked. You may want to research previous topics in this section's archive.

nolanjurgens · Post by **nolanjurgens** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 5:42 pm

If you could also come up with programs to read the flash memory and display it in a readable manner, and then refine the program where it can clear or change only the items you want it to, then this might be a legit and useful tool. Then again it might backfire.

EvilSporkMan · Post by **EvilSporkMan** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 6:48 pm

Actually, the reader you mention was written by me BEFORE this virus, it just needs to be tested. I think I'll do that shortly...(I dun have a coders' cable, and my CD burner isn't set up on this laptop yet either) Keep in mind it's only a beta, and can't selectively erase yet.

Firthy2002 · Post by **Firthy2002** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 5:46 am

Viruses are evil.