NinCast64 (N64 emu) - Page 3

Post by **Hashmire420** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:55 am · Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:55 am

Post by Hashmire420 » Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:55 am

im not one to understand archetextures, but im pretty sure there was a good ole' thing one here already called dosbox. Also the linux port had to use xfree86 if im not mistaken. But id love to hear how wrong i am so please enlighten me.

Ceeg wrote:>_>
*imagines an X Box that can please me........sexually*

Post by **Sonic-NKT** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:52 am · Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:52 am

Post by Sonic-NKT » Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:52 am

i think he just meant he ported a x86 asm n64 cpu core over to the dreamcast sh4 also using asm

Post by **gnomes** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 7:35 pm · Sat Dec 17, 2005 7:35 pm

Post by gnomes » Sat Dec 17, 2005 7:35 pm

12FPS no sound is better than it sounds. Realise that most N64 titles never broke 25FPS.

I was unaware there were any 4 megabyte N64 titles however, I thought the smallest was 8 megabytes.

Post by **Sonic-NKT** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:49 pm · Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:49 pm

Post by Sonic-NKT » Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:49 pm

zelda runs only at arround 17fps ingame all the time (if i can trust my emu) so playing n64 games at arround 17fps, which could be possible in future with out sound, shouldnt really be a problem.
just thinking that zelda may run on the dreamcast in some time makes me crazy (but i cant really believe a game like zelda will run at 17fps)

Post by **law56ker** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:59 pm · Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:59 pm

Post by law56ker » Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:59 pm

a lot of n64 games had horrible framerates. I think mario 64 which was the first n64 game had one of the best framerates on the system.

Post by **Tyne** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:53 pm · Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:53 pm

Post by Tyne » Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:53 pm

Umm, the emulator would have to process at 60 FPS in order to emulate Zelda at 17fps, that's the way emulation works...

"I'm convinced RenegadeC is in fact not a human, but rather an experimental IRC/QuakeC bot who has the ability to randomly formulate mods and code them, programmed to have a distinct Canadian personality as well."

Post by **Hashmire420** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:01 pm · Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:01 pm

Post by Hashmire420 » Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:01 pm

Tyne, can you please explain. Not to try to give you a hard time but i guess ive never understood the whole workings of emulators.

Ceeg wrote:>_>
*imagines an X Box that can please me........sexually*

Post by **gnomes** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:47 pm · Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:47 pm

Post by gnomes » Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:47 pm

Tyne wrote:Umm, the emulator would have to process at 60 FPS in order to emulate Zelda at 17fps, that's the way emulation works...

I don't believe so.

Post by **Tyne** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:51 pm · Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:51 pm

Post by Tyne » Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:51 pm

I'll try to make this easy to understand...

The N64 is a 90MHz machine, if the emulator is only working at 12/60 frames of emulating the entire SYSTEM (not the game, this isn't like a port at all!) then it's essentially only emulating at 10MHz of the real 90MHz of the N64.. a games framerate may be 17 fps however it's still using all the power of the N64 to achieve those 17 frames per second..

Zelda 64 and every other game is going to go slow as they required all 90mhz to get them running at those low FPS's in the first place. You need to remember that it's the entire system were emulating.. not the games themselves.

"I'm convinced RenegadeC is in fact not a human, but rather an experimental IRC/QuakeC bot who has the ability to randomly formulate mods and code them, programmed to have a distinct Canadian personality as well."

Post by **Hashmire420** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:07 am · Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:07 am

Post by Hashmire420 » Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:07 am

ok makes sense.

Ceeg wrote:>_>
*imagines an X Box that can please me........sexually*

Post by **Christuserloeser** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:30 am · Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:30 am

Post by Christuserloeser » Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:30 am

404NotFound wrote:
farrell2k wrote:I don't see how the DC could load the emu, a 32mb rom, an everything else it needs...
32Mbit = 4Megabyte

I'm still gonna have to wait till i see it.

Well, since Chui got the DC to load 100MByte+ NeoGeo ROMs with Neo4all/AES it's actually 32Megabytes...

Read more about the MMU technique he uses with Neo4All/AES here:
http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=14927

Insane homebrew collector.

Post by **gnomes** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:51 am · Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:51 am

Post by gnomes » Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:51 am

Tyne wrote:I'll try to make this easy to understand...

That is only one interpretation of it. I don't know if it is the right one. The other interpretation is that regardless of the effeciency of the emulation, it is getting 12 "real" frames per second, where a "real" frame per second is equal to 12 frames per second on the emulated console (an N64).

Post by **Segata** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:28 am · Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:28 am

Post by Segata » Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:28 am

In the ngemu forums there's a thread saying why the emulator is fake, it's on the news, if you scroll down a bit. Personally, I'd lose all my respect to the authors if it finally turns out fake

Post by **LyingWake** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:36 am · Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:36 am

Post by LyingWake » Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:36 am

Segata wrote:Personally, I'd lose all my respect to the authors if it finally turns out fake

As would everyone else. Fox and Chui has a well known reputation, I don't think they'd ruine it just to see people get their hopes up.

EDIT: Sorry - Ron, not Chui.

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Post by **Quzar** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:28 am · Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:28 am

Post by Quzar » Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:28 am

I don't think anyone who matters would lose respect for the two.

"When you post fewer lines of text than your signature, consider not posting at all." - A Wise Man

Post by **Christuserloeser** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:25 am · Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:25 am

Post by Christuserloeser » Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:25 am

Whatever that means... Honestly I don't think it's a fake so no one could loose any respect for Ron, Fox & Chui anyway.

Insane homebrew collector.

Post by **Sonic-NKT** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 1:01 pm · Sun Dec 18, 2005 1:01 pm

Post by Sonic-NKT » Sun Dec 18, 2005 1:01 pm

if some unknown coder had said that he ported a n64 emu which runs mario it would say this has to be a fake, no way thats real. but since fox and maybe also chui are working on this i have to believe its true, those 2 wouldnt cheat the DC community

Post by **Sonic-NKT** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:32 am · Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:32 am

Post by Sonic-NKT » Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:32 am

the post on dciberia disappeard...
thats not a good sign

Post by **MetaFox** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:23 am · Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:23 am

Post by MetaFox » Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:23 am

The newspost about this has been removed from dciberia.net. It looks like I might have been on target with this being a prank (the we'll post screenshots throughout the month set off a warning in my mind, with this being December and all), but it most likely got out of hand and they just removed it from the page altogether.

Though, I could be just misinterpreting this situation.

I really hope it wasn't a prank, as it would definately tarnish Ron and fox68k's (not Chui like everyone has been saying - he has nothing to do with this beyond mentions of using his methods) reputations.

EDIT: Sonic-NKT beat me to it

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Post by **DuffMan** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:57 pm · Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:57 pm

Post by DuffMan » Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:57 pm

Turned out to be fake. http://www.ngemu.com

OOH! YA! Duffman Says a lot of things.