doom movie gets good review!? (by ign though)

Post by **Specially Cork** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:05 pm

Meh. I've never found any 99% action 1% plot movie anything other than dire. For me, the entire point of a movie is to tell a story, if it isnt going to do that, it may as well not exist.

It is a good formula for a game I agree, but it doesnt work half as well if you are just sat there watching.

Disheveled DrFreeze · Post by **Disheveled DrFreeze** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:38 pm

BoneyCork wrote:Meh. I've never found any 99% action 1% plot movie anything other than dire. For me, the entire point of a movie is to tell a story, if it isnt going to do that, it may as well not exist.

It is a good formula for a game I agree, but it doesnt work half as well if you are just sat there watching.

you have a point, i doubt id like to see doom twice really

i just watched matrix revolutions again a few days ago, and beyond the action it is realy mediocre... wont be watching that one anytime soon

ace · Post by **ace** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:21 pm

BoneyCork wrote:So according to IGN its a great movie as long as you ignore the lack of plot.

Thats like calling a videogame good as long as you ignore the lack of gameplay.

No, it would be like saying a video game is good as long as you ignore the lack of plot.

az_bont · Post by **az_bont** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:30 pm

ace wrote:
BoneyCork wrote:So according to IGN its a great movie as long as you ignore the lack of plot.

Thats like calling a videogame good as long as you ignore the lack of gameplay.
No, it would be like saying a video game is good as long as you ignore the lack of plot.

You cannot compare videogames and movies in this way. The primary elemnt of videogames is gameplay, which is obvious when you look at the first few decades of games and realise that most of them had nothing in the way of a proper plot, with the vast majority not even making a passing reference to one.

Movies, being entirely non-interactive, use completely different means of entertaining the audience - plot being the most obvious one.

Post by **Specially Cork** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:44 pm

Yeah the comparison I was trying to make is that:

The core part of a movie is the plot (unless it is a documentary/experimental movie)
The core part of a videogame is the gameplay.

And there is generally no way either medium could possibly be good if their core elements were either terrible or non-existant.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:46 pm

That's completely false. I've seen plenty of enjoyable movies that had a weak or non-sensical plot. Sometimes a straight up action movie is damn enjoyable, even if the "plot" is about saving the world from alien invaders.

saber07 · Post by **saber07** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:39 pm

I dont know if I want to watch it this weekend or not, because I know some fat zit faced loser will you "pwned!!!" during the movie...

Disheveled DrFreeze · Post by **Disheveled DrFreeze** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:45 am

unfortunatly it wont launch in europe for at least two weeks

Luriden · Post by **Luriden** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:51 am

I'm gonna go see it friday with my friend who's a Doom 3 freak. It looks like they're trying to pull off what HotD did though: incorporating video game moments into the movie, i.e. the first person perspective. It's not as bad as flashing actual gameplay screens like in HotD but still, it's gotta be awkward for anyone who's never played Doom 3.

Post by **Specially Cork** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:42 am

Nick wrote:That's completely false. I've seen plenty of enjoyable movies that had a weak or non-sensical plot. Sometimes a straight up action movie is damn enjoyable, even if the "plot" is about saving the world from alien invaders.

I was speaking more from opinion:

BoneyCork wrote:Meh. I've never found any 99% action 1% plot movie anything other than dire. For me, the entire point of a movie is to tell a story, if it isnt going to do that, it may as well not exist.

Veggita2099 · Post by **Veggita2099** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:25 am

Looked like some pitiful acting and cheesy cat phrases from what little I seen from the commerical.

Wagh · Post by **Wagh** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:45 pm

I just got back. It was pretty funny. Some really bad scenes, some not so good ones and thats the movie. I wouldn't see it again until it came on HBO or something.

ASCIIN · Post by **ASCIIN** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:41 am

what did you expect sophie's choice, its based off a fps for christ sakes....

bizzle · Post by **bizzle** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:57 am

I saw it tonight. It was better than expected but still pretty bad. The Rock was trying so hard to not do the eyebrow. There is this one scene where it looks like he tries but it's more like a twitch. The FPS part wasn't nearly as good as expected and it wasn't until the end, which was pretty stupid.

The only reason I saw it was becuase I got in for free. The movie isn't worth the $8.50 it costs normally.

Smiley · Post by **Smiley** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:37 pm

Yeah, I'll prolly see sometime before it goes to dvd. since I'm a fan of the doom games, and this might actually be the best videogame to movie made since the first mortal kombat. Worst, imo is still the super mario bros movie....

Ceeg · Post by **Ceeg** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:24 pm

Im seeing it Sunday.

MKE · Post by **MKE** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:33 pm

must not be to good, nobody wants to "share" it yet...

Skynet · Post by **Skynet** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:37 pm

must not be to good, nobody wants to "share" it yet..

I noticed that too.

Lartrak · Post by **Lartrak** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:04 pm

BoneyCork wrote:
Nick wrote:That's completely false. I've seen plenty of enjoyable movies that had a weak or non-sensical plot. Sometimes a straight up action movie is damn enjoyable, even if the "plot" is about saving the world from alien invaders.
I was speaking more from opinion:

BoneyCork wrote:Meh. I've never found any 99% action 1% plot movie anything other than dire. For me, the entire point of a movie is to tell a story, if it isnt going to do that, it may as well not exist.

So you don't enjoy any Chinese action or kung fu movies? Bit surprising...

Do you, in fact, not enjoy action sequences at all in movies?

The thing about most action movies.. Most of them the action sequences MAYBE 15-20% of the actual film. A weak, non-entertaining (I can find bad storylines entertaining, as long as they're ludicrous/stupid) storyline can sink a movie with good action. In other words, you're getting maybe 20 minutes of entertainment out of a 90 minute film... That sucks. I do own a few Chinese films where the only good parts are the action scenes (Tragic Hero and Rich and Famous are generally this way, as is Return Engagement), and the rest is sheer boredom. What I do is skip the rest of the film

toastman · Post by **toastman** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 11:38 pm

What about UHF? The plot only serves as a way to tell a series of sight gags.
Orgazmo? The plot is outlandish and simple, yet the humor, again.
Dawn of the Dead (either one)? The plot: Surviving zombies. But that's not the point, the point is the interaction between the characters and sweet zombie moments.
Memento. It's a way to experiment with telling a story. The actual plot is simple. Man looks for wife's murderer.
Clerks. Two guys work at a store.

And we could go on. Plot is as disposable as any other element of the film. The trick isn't to include everything, but to make it good.