ce loader question

atari_galaga · Post by **atari_galaga** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 7:40 pm

does any one know if the win ce loader for the dc acctually works?

atari_galaga · Post by **atari_galaga** » Sun Jun 08, 2003 2:40 pm

im guessing it doesn't work.....or noone knows

ZacMc · Post by **ZacMc** » Sun Jun 08, 2003 3:43 pm

I've never even heard of a wince loader.. Got a link?

tom61a · Post by **tom61a** » Sun Jun 08, 2003 4:34 pm

WinCE loader itself does work on the DC, but it's just a simple menu, DC Generator does much more. The WinCE loader dev kit, on the other hand, was what DCDivx was developed with before it was ported over to KOS (used mostly for speed testing).

Background on WinCE loader dev kit:
It was released quite a while ago, before KOS, if I remember right. It allows you to make DC programs using eMedded Visual C (which is free from Microsoft), but requires the DC WinCE libraries from a comercial program (ala Gyplay) for the program to run on the DC. No has released programs made with the kit because of this (the WinCE libraries bring up controversy for some reason).

I tired setting it up once, but the documentation is spread all over (it has multiple directories and files) making it difficult to get everything setup to compile right. I eventually got bored with it and gave up.

Not sure where to get it now, but sites that carry 'special tools' for the Dreamcast might have it.

Cygnus · Post by **Cygnus** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 11:51 am

tom61a wrote:WinCE loader itself does work on the DC, but it's just a simple menu, DC Generator does much more. The WinCE loader dev kit, on the other hand, was what DCDivx was developed with before it was ported over to KOS (used mostly for speed testing).
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Background on WinCE loader dev kit:
It was released quite a while ago, before KOS, if I remember right. It allows you to make DC programs using eMedded Visual C (which is free from Microsoft), but requires the DC WinCE libraries from a comercial program (ala Gyplay) for the program to run on the DC. No has released programs made with the kit because of this (the WinCE libraries bring up controversy for some reason).

I think he is referring to the WinCe loader that lets you run PocketPC WinCE programs on the DC. The release was very quiet.

I wanted to try the PocketPC Atari 8-Bit EMU to run on the WinCE loader, but when the direct release of an Atari 8-Bit Emu to the DC came out, there was no need.

I haven't tried it, but I think it will still be interesting because there are lots of PocketPC programs that would be great to have on the DC

ZacMc · Post by **ZacMc** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 12:18 pm

I think he is referring to the WinCe loader that lets you run PocketPC WinCE programs on the DC.

Nothing like that was ever released.

karter74 · Post by **karter74** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 3:38 pm

Yes, there is and its sitting on my comps HD right now.

ZacMc · Post by **ZacMc** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 4:24 pm

karter74 wrote:Yes, there is and its sitting on my comps HD right now.

email it to me.

tom61a · Post by **tom61a** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 4:33 pm

When it came out, some people thought that the WinCE loader was for loading WinCE for Pocket PC/Handheld PC programs, but it's not. The WinCE loader just loads Katana and WinCE programs for Dreamcast, no other platforms.

The dev kit lets you use the same compiler as Pocket PC/Handheld PC to make DC programs, so that's where the confusion is from.

atari_galaga · Post by **atari_galaga** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 6:49 pm

anyone know where i can get some wince programs to try this with......or would that be warez?

Fragmaster170 · Post by **Fragmaster170** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 9:56 pm

I have this as well, never tried it though.

its a dev environment for visual studio.

atari_galaga · Post by **atari_galaga** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 9:07 pm

so does this let you run ce games?

OneThirty8 · Post by **OneThirty8** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 9:36 pm

from what I gather from this thread, it's a development environment. ie, It will let you program stuff.

ModMan · Post by **ModMan** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 3:16 am

First off this is leaked part of the wince kit.what it is only supposed to do,is boot wince bins. it will not boot any wince bin that is not compiled for the sh4 cpu got it now.it is warez search google.com for it and you will find the site that released it.
the readme with it . is total crap it will not boot any thing it does not support swapping disks so its totaly useless. im surprized no programer here spoke up about it.

tom61a · Post by **tom61a** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 3:56 pm

ModMan wrote:First off this is leaked part of the wince kit.

That explains the crap strewn everywhere.

it will not boot any wince bin that is not compiled for the sh4 cpu got it now.

They're never going to get it.

"But what about stuff for SH3, isn't that compatable with SH4?"

is total crap it will not boot any thing it does not support swapping disks so its totaly useless. im surprized no programer here spoke up about it.

I don't count.

Moi · Post by **Moi** » Sat Jun 14, 2003 7:58 pm

so has anyone tried it?
I downloaded the eMedded Visual C Tools 3 but it requires Win2K Service pack so i couldnt install it

cause im using WinME