DC DivX or VCD?
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DC DivX or VCD?
Alright, I've got a copy of The Lord of the Rings on DVD. Unfortunately, there is no DVD player in my room that I can use to play it in here. I'd like to rip it to some format that I can play on my Dreamcast, but I'm not sure which yet. I'm familiar with VCD, and that was my first idea, but then I considered DC DivX.
I'm not too familiar with the specifications of DC DivX, so, my question for all of you is what format should I convert it to? DC DivX or VCD? What are the pros/cons of DC DivX compared to VCD? Quality? Sound? Size? Speed? Resolution?
Any help anyone can provide is appreciated, thanks.
I'm not too familiar with the specifications of DC DivX, so, my question for all of you is what format should I convert it to? DC DivX or VCD? What are the pros/cons of DC DivX compared to VCD? Quality? Sound? Size? Speed? Resolution?
Any help anyone can provide is appreciated, thanks.
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Actually, if you use the right bitrate, the movie should fit on one CD. However, the quality will be sub-VCD, so if your DVD player supports VCD you'd probably be better off with that. Personally, I always prefer DCDivx, just for it's convenience.
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The computer I have access to for encoding and copying is a 1.3 ghz machine which can sit and do the encoding overnight, for all it matters.
Just out of curiousity, do any of you happen to have, say, a 10 second video clip in both DC DivX and NTSC VCD-spec MPEG-1 I could use for comparison? I'd do my own tests, but I'm not going to install any software on the previously mentioned system until I am ready to do the whole thing, as it isn't mine...
Just out of curiousity, do any of you happen to have, say, a 10 second video clip in both DC DivX and NTSC VCD-spec MPEG-1 I could use for comparison? I'd do my own tests, but I'm not going to install any software on the previously mentioned system until I am ready to do the whole thing, as it isn't mine...
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Try encoding the video at 352x150 (or whatever would be the correct aspect ratio) setting maximum quantisizer at 10 or 8, with divx 5.0.2, at 500kbs. Convert audio to 22hz mono 64kbs high quality mp3 (i convert the ac3 file to wav and then encode with winlame with some special tweaked settings).
Then select a range of about 1000 frames, encode it, and test it out with divx 3 or 4. I prefer beta 3, because beta 4 stutters with my videos. If it looks good, encode the whole thing. The file should be about 550-600 megs for a movie of that length.
I have gotten VERY good results with these settings and DcDivx.
Then select a range of about 1000 frames, encode it, and test it out with divx 3 or 4. I prefer beta 3, because beta 4 stutters with my videos. If it looks good, encode the whole thing. The file should be about 550-600 megs for a movie of that length.
I have gotten VERY good results with these settings and DcDivx.
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Here are some 15 second samples for you-
http://www.geocities.com/jared1619/testavi.zip
There's an avi of LOTR trailer that is encoded for dcdivx. The settings I used for it are-
Divx 4.12 600kb/s 352x240
Decimated the frame rate by 2
8kb Audio 40kb/s stereo
http://www.geocities.com/jared1619/testvcd.zip
That's an mpeg encoded for gypplay. I just used the ntsc template in tmpgenc to make it.
Edit: Remember to copy and paste.
http://www.geocities.com/jared1619/testavi.zip
There's an avi of LOTR trailer that is encoded for dcdivx. The settings I used for it are-
Divx 4.12 600kb/s 352x240
Decimated the frame rate by 2
8kb Audio 40kb/s stereo
http://www.geocities.com/jared1619/testvcd.zip
That's an mpeg encoded for gypplay. I just used the ntsc template in tmpgenc to make it.
Edit: Remember to copy and paste.
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I'd say DC Divx. I use 5.02 pro codec and it looks almost as good as the dvd, much better than normal divx. The only half way decent vcd player for dc is the one with the remote that costs like 30 bucks. There is a warez version that doesn't need the dongle, but for some reason it got hacked to sh*t and barely plays vcds at full speed even. Divx runs perfect for me with the following settings: 320 x 240 res, 40k/24khz mp3 using radium codec, 700bitrate video. This is all after i encode it for my pc so it will already fit on 1 cd. All of my dc divx movies are 1 cd as I never use more than one, with the same quality. Divx all the way.
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Neon, if you decide to go with Divx here are some settings you can use that'll get the fullscreen version of LOR on one CD with good quality. First, I used DVDx to rip a nice quality avi to my Hard Drive at 1300 kbps and 512 x 384 resolution. Then I tried several settings in VirtualDub until I came across these: 336 x 254 resolution at 550kbps using Divx5.02, with 24000 KHz stereo audio at 5 KB/s. The resulting movie looks good and plays great under DCDivx Beta 3. (It turns into a choppy mess in Beta 4.) The file ended up at 665 MB, so you might want to try to eke out a bit more quality out of the audio or video, though I wouldn't since the audio already momentarily lags behind the video in high actions scenes. I'm certainly very happy with the end quality. Whatever you choose, good luck.
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I also have that vcd player with a remote and I have found it can play almost any kind of vcd you throw at it. Try making a xvcd with higher than standard bitrates or variable bitrates. I have made a movie at 1800kbps with 384kbps audio at 48000hz and it plays absolutly perfect with no macroblocking or noise. Even though these are non-standard vcd settings it plays perfect. If you want to fit it on a certain number of cd's use TMPG's 2-pass VBR mode (be sure to set your minimum bitrate at at least 300 otherwise when the bitrate gets too low it might have jittery playback in very low motion and dark scenes) and a bitrate calculator you can find here http://www.vcdhelp.com/calc.htm and you can have superb quality and relatively small filesize. I fit a 100 minute movie on 1 cd with 911kbps average VBR and it has no macroblocking or noise, but the encoding takes forever. Hope this helps.
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No!!!!
The Xing Hong player is horrible, avoid it like the plague. Check out DreamMovie at http://www.liksang.com, instead. Best one out there.
The Xing Hong player is horrible, avoid it like the plague. Check out DreamMovie at http://www.liksang.com, instead. Best one out there.