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aisupikku wrote:...az_bont; Perhaps their "360 Degree Rotating D-pad" style would be almost as good as a right-hand side analogue stick for ABXY FPS movement? Also; This sort of special FPS DC controller could coincide well with a good turnout from the Id Software effort...
I would be just as happy with something like that. In fact, as the A/B/X/Y method of control is very defined by having only four digital buttons, something more along the lines of a d-pad might be more appropriate.

There must be a lot more people interested in new third-party Dreamcast peripherals than NES, SNES and Mega Drive ones. We Dreamcasters are, by far, the most obsessed of all console fanboys. Play Messiah would be mad to miss out on this golden opportunity.
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If they produced a Controller based on the Megadrive 6-button controller for the DC, That would be pretty sweet. :D
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Post by Pyrite »

BBA ?nuff said, I can?t think of any other acessorie that I would want maybe more pad adapters in the likes of TC+5 3in1.
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Post by cube_b3 »

well observing there site it's clear they ain't even looking at the dreamcast they barely getting on the genesis it would be amazing if they start for dreamcast but let's start with small patato's and the most logical thing to dream about is there trademark wireless controllers that they are making for almost every (classic)console...
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This is the Snes pad, the dpad looks very weird.

The problem with the DC is that the VMU plugs into the pad, unless they make an adapter for connecting the vmu in the same way TotalControl does.
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Post by Matisfaction »

Is it not a "rocker Pad" Like the Neo Geo CD pads?
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Post by DaMadFiddler »

quzar wrote:i had never realized it, but if it were possible to emulate the xbox on the DC, there would be mappings availible for all the buttons :o
Um...huh? I still count a shortage. Right analog stick, back (aka "select"), and the black/white buttons would all be without equivalents. The Xbox controller does look remarkably like an evolved DC pad, though ;)
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DaMadFiddler wrote:
quzar wrote:i had never realized it, but if it were possible to emulate the xbox on the DC, there would be mappings availible for all the buttons :o
Um...huh? I still count a shortage. Right analog stick, back (aka "select"), and the black/white buttons would all be without equivalents. The Xbox controller does look remarkably like an evolved DC pad, though ;)
DC has the capability to have : D pad, 2 analog sticks, 2 analog triggers and 7 buttons. i guess there is one button missing =( i forgot about the select button, but black+white could be c+z.
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The Dreamcast has support for controllers with 2 d-pads, 2 analog sticks, 2 analog triggers and 8 buttons (start, a, b, c, d, x, y, z). I got this info when taking a look at some ip.bin stuff, like the IPBIN4WIN program.

The problem is that Sega probably thought that it would be too expensive to make full-featured controllers, or they decided to make the controller as cheap as possible, or both. I'm pretty sure that they planned to release a better controller if the Dreamcast were successful enough.

One thing I'd like to know is if the chip in the DC controller supports all the planned features or only the ones present in the original controllers. Maybe it would be possible to mod the original controllers to add the extra buttons or the second analog stick.
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Post by DaMadFiddler »

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PlayMessiah wrote:Hello Ian,

Thanks for the info. It is great to see others continuing to support the
systems of yesterday. We would definitely like to get into the Dreamcast
market, but we need to move slowly. It has taken a very sizable investment
to develop new wireless controllers for NES/SNES. If we can break even you
can bet we will be supporting Dreamcast. It is one of my favorite systems.


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Third-party BBA's. I'd buy one. I think a lot of people would. Yu don't see many on e-bay, and you don't see any that don't sell. If you kicked out a lot of 1,000 for 40 - 50 bucks a piece, I bet you could get your money back.
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Post by impetus »

^ my thoughts exactly - price em at $30 and watch them fly of the shelves
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fatheadpi wrote:Third-party BBA's. I'd buy one.
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impetus wrote:^ my thoughts exactly - price em at $30 and watch them fly of the shelves
The only limiting factor is: how much would they cost to develop? There are two factors in determining the break-even point with a product: the production cost, and the initial development cost. And since something like this wouldn't have as wide a customer base as, say, a PS2 accessory...you need to have a higher price-point so that you can recoup that initial investment with fewer sales.

That's not saying a BBA would be impractical...and it is one of the things I talked about in my letter as being a sought-after product. But I wouldn't expect to see one show up for less than $50 or so, at least.
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DaMadFiddler wrote: But I wouldn't expect to see one show up for less than $50 or so, at least.
Thats still a 100 times better than paying ?80 for a BBA on Ebay :D, I deffo think they'd get a return on some BBA's, and apart from a Decent 6-button pad for SF etc, would there be anything else anyone would want for DC?

Altho there is Zero Fishing rods and Light guns in the UK, Or maybe some NES/SNES pads for emulators )()(
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I would imagine that a BBA would be more along the lines of computer hardware than a game accessory (to develop and manufacture)
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the BBA's BBA hardware is the same as a very common PC ethernet card chip.
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What about an adaptor for various different console's controllers? It would be pretty much limited to us lot, but would be a hell of a lot cheaper to make than a BBA. Make it support NES, SNES, Mega Drive and maybe a few others and they'd sell fast.
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Post by nevets934 »

if they made bba's i would buy one
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