E3 - Page 8

impetus · Post by **impetus** » Wed May 10, 2006 6:43 pm

Overall, I think Nintendo made a great showing. Also, looks like the 360 is staying the course pretty well.

Smiley · Post by **Smiley** » Wed May 10, 2006 6:56 pm

I've been watching e3 on g4 and I agree with impetus that Nintendo has thus far had a great show. Everything looks promising, but is it me or does the new metroid prime they've been showing look like the first two games?

and what was with Super Mario Galaxies?!

Finally, if Ninty isn't gonna be utilizing an hd format for their games, they should at least be using vga imo.

Covar · Post by **Covar** » Wed May 10, 2006 7:21 pm

Smiley wrote:I've been watching e3 on g4 and I agree with impetus that Nintendo has thus far had a great show. Everything looks promising, but is it me or does the new metroid prime they've been showing look like the first two games?

and what was with Super Mario Galaxies?!

Finally, if Ninty isn't gonna be utilizing an hd format for their games, they should at least be using vga imo.

i watched g4's coverage on e3 and wondered where the nintendo coverage went. they even stoped mentioning nintendo after the first half.

atf487 · Post by **atf487** » Wed May 10, 2006 8:12 pm

Smiley wrote:I've been watching e3 on g4 and I agree with impetus that Nintendo has thus far had a great show. Everything looks promising, but is it me or does the new metroid prime they've been showing look like the first two games?

and what was with Super Mario Galaxies?!

Finally, if Ninty isn't gonna be utilizing an hd format for their games, they should at least be using vga imo.

Rumor is that the stuff is still running off of what is basically GC hardware. The only game that looked better than what the GC/Xbox could do was Super Mario Galaxy, which looks really good, and fun! I thought it was weird as hell to put Mario in space, but there is a good video at youtube that makes the game look really fun.

Oh, and if you guys didn't read the Sonic thread I made...THE GAME LOOKS GREAT. Watch the video from IGN, it looks like Sega finally got a 3D sonic game right.

butters · Post by **butters** » Wed May 10, 2006 11:48 pm

atf487 wrote:
Smiley wrote:I've been watching e3 on g4 and I agree with impetus that Nintendo has thus far had a great show. Everything looks promising, but is it me or does the new metroid prime they've been showing look like the first two games?

and what was with Super Mario Galaxies?!

Finally, if Ninty isn't gonna be utilizing an hd format for their games, they should at least be using vga imo.
Rumor is that the stuff is still running off of what is basically GC hardware. The only game that looked better than what the GC/Xbox could do was Super Mario Galaxy, which looks really good, and fun!

To expand on this, last I heard ATI haven't even completed the video card for the system. I think we can expect better graphics once they know what they can actually pull off. Right now they are just doing visual effects that the Gamecube could do.

Post by **melancholy** » Thu May 11, 2006 12:18 am

Smiley wrote:and what was with Super Mario Galaxies?!

Super Mario Galaxies has me really, really worried. I want a true sequel to Mario 64, and this isn't going to be it. In fact, from what I seen of the demo, it looked more like those damn bonus stages in Mario Sunshine. Ya know, the ones with the huge pit-of-death where you make one wrong move and you die? Super Mario Galaxies looked like a ton of tiny little planets over a gigantic 'pit.' If they make that game's focus on precision moves with the Wiimote, in a similar fashion to Sunshine's bonus stages, many people are going to hate it, me included.

Nyarlathotep · Post by **Nyarlathotep** » Thu May 11, 2006 2:30 am

melancholy wrote: it looked more like those damn bonus stages in Mario Sunshine. Ya know, the ones with the huge pit-of-death where you make one wrong move and you die? Super Mario Galaxies looked like a ton of tiny little planets over a gigantic 'pit.' If they make that game's focus on precision moves with the Wiimote, in a similar fashion to Sunshine's bonus stages, many people are going to hate it, me included.

You missed the part where Mario runs underneath the planet defying 'earth' gravity then?

Ex-Cyber · Post by **Ex-Cyber** » Thu May 11, 2006 3:30 am

butters wrote:To expand on this, last I heard ATI haven't even completed the video card for the system. I think we can expect better graphics once they know what they can actually pull off. Right now they are just doing visual effects that the Gamecube could do.

I think it's possible that some developers have gotten test run silicon from rumors I've seen floating around, but ATI is being pretty quiet/vague about the process overall (most likely this is at Nintendo's request of course). Even if that's true, though, they might have decided to show only GC-based builds on the floor due to concerns about prototype reliability, theft, etc.

BlackAura · Post by **BlackAura** » Thu May 11, 2006 5:11 am

I think most of the Wii games on show were developed on the GameCube based prototypes Nintendo had a while back. Quite a few of them look exactly like GameCube games, and some others (like Metroid Prime 3, Project H.A.M.M.E.R. and Sonic Wildfire) look like GameCube games with a larger scale, more detail, more stuff on screen at once, and so on.

Some of Nintendo's games look like they're running on something else entirely. Super Mario Galaxy appears to be using shader effects of some kind, which the GameCube simply didn't have. Same deal with Smash Brothers Brawl. The most obvious is that backlit lighting effect you can see on Mario in Galaxy.

UbiSoft evidently got their hands on this updated kit, because Red Steel looks like it's using those same effects. I don't think a game that looks like Red Steel would have been possible on the GameCube. Since we first saw screenshots of Red Steel months ago, that means that more complete prototypes have been out there for months.

Egotistical EvilN · Post by **Egotistical EvilN** » Thu May 11, 2006 5:30 am

Are revolution's specs out, officialy yet?

Disheveled DrFreeze · Post by **Disheveled DrFreeze** » Thu May 11, 2006 5:45 am

Egotistical EvilN wrote:Are revolution's specs out, officialy yet?

IIRC nintendo even said they werent going to release any specs EVER, because of all the "we dont care about hardware, gameplay is where its at" talk

anyway, im pretty curious myself, im really interested in its architecture, and i pray to god that ars technica does a deep overview of it or something

Post by **Specially Cork** » Thu May 11, 2006 5:58 am

All I want from a 3D Mario game is a nice solid set of themed stages like Mario 64. If Nintendo want to innovate, I wish they would do it with new games and stop messing with the classics.

Caboose · Post by **Caboose** » Thu May 11, 2006 6:22 am

Disheveled DrFreeze wrote:
Egotistical EvilN wrote:Are revolution's specs out, officialy yet?
IIRC nintendo even said they werent going to release any specs EVER, because of all the "we dont care about hardware, gameplay is where its at" talk

anyway, im pretty curious myself, im really interested in its architecture, and i pray to god that ars technica does a deep overview of it or something

It's rumored that the hardware is very similar to the gamecube's, but everything is just twice as fast/there's twice as much of it (RAM).

gamedudex2 · Post by **gamedudex2** » Thu May 11, 2006 9:36 am

mario and smash bros are not launch titles mario is coming out between launch and 6 months after time frame. smash bros probably spring 2007 since they said its coming in 2007

Post by **melancholy** » Thu May 11, 2006 11:36 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:
melancholy wrote: it looked more like those damn bonus stages in Mario Sunshine. Ya know, the ones with the huge pit-of-death where you make one wrong move and you die? Super Mario Galaxies looked like a ton of tiny little planets over a gigantic 'pit.' If they make that game's focus on precision moves with the Wiimote, in a similar fashion to Sunshine's bonus stages, many people are going to hate it, me included.
You missed the part where Mario runs underneath the planet defying 'earth' gravity then?

No, I saw that, but that doesn't make me any less worried. After the dumb things they did with Mario Sunshine, seeing yet another radical departure makes me weary.

butters · Post by **butters** » Fri May 12, 2006 12:34 am

Look at the line to play the Wii.

TyBO · Post by **TyBO** » Fri May 12, 2006 12:47 am

melancholy wrote:
Nyarlathotep wrote:
melancholy wrote: it looked more like those damn bonus stages in Mario Sunshine. Ya know, the ones with the huge pit-of-death where you make one wrong move and you die? Super Mario Galaxies looked like a ton of tiny little planets over a gigantic 'pit.' If they make that game's focus on precision moves with the Wiimote, in a similar fashion to Sunshine's bonus stages, many people are going to hate it, me included.
You missed the part where Mario runs underneath the planet defying 'earth' gravity then?
No, I saw that, but that doesn't make me any less worried. After the dumb things they did with Mario Sunshine, seeing yet another radical departure makes me weary.

I don't think outer space is going to be an endless pit of doom though. It looks like once you land on a planet, you're grounded there, and to transfer to a new planet you need to step into a special area, and it takes you on a predetermined path there.

butters · Post by **butters** » Fri May 12, 2006 12:51 am

An interview with Satoru Iwata, president of Nintendo. They are going to interview Kaz Hirai from SCEA and Peter Moore from Microsoft tomorrow.

impetus · Post by **impetus** » Fri May 12, 2006 12:55 am

thanks for that link, butters. I enjoyed reading that interview.

Post by **melancholy** » Fri May 12, 2006 12:59 am

butters wrote:Look at the line to play the Wii.

Holy poop! Was there anyone even left on the expo floor?