China seeks to end nation-wide sausage party

Post by **Roofus** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:56 pm

China sounded the alarm over the country's growing gender imbalance on Monday, vowing to improve protection of infant girls and ratchet up punishment for those who perform abortions based on the sex of the baby.

The measures highlight the leadership's increasing concern over the widening gender gap due to a traditional preference for male offspring and policies limiting most couples to one child that has made abortion a widely used method for controlling family size.

The imbalance is "a hidden danger" for society that will "affect social stability," the official Xinhua News Agency said, citing a statement issued jointly by the ruling Communist Party and the State Council, China's Cabinet.

It said people who "conduct illegal gender testing of fetuses and sex-selective abortions should face serious punishment." The statement also said the protection of baby girls should be improved by punishing those who kill, abandon or injure the infants.

No details were given.

According to Xinhua, 118 boys were born for every 100 girls in 2005. In some regions, it said, the figure hit 130 for every 100 girls. The average for industrialized countries is between 104 and 107 boys for every 100 girls.

The use of an ultrasound or other means to determine if a fetus is a boy or a girl is banned in China, but doctors who do so usually face only administrative penalties, not criminal charges. Many such checks are carried out by freelancers moving from village to village with only an ultrasound machine.

Abortions to select a child's gender are not currently outlawed. However, a family planning regulation prohibits the practice except for medical reasons. People who perform illegal scans or abortions face a minimum fine of 10,000 yuan ($1,255) or more based on their earnings from the procedure.

While narrowing the gender gap is a priority, China continues to stand firmly behind its three-decade-old one-child policy planning policy, Xinhua said. "The country is still facing huge challenges from a growing population," it said.

Beijing contends that the policy has helped prevent 400 million births and aided rapid economic development.

The government has pledged to keep the mainland population under 1.36 billion by 2010 and under 1.45 billion by 2020, Xinhua said. The current population is 1.3 billion.

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jaredfogle · Post by **jaredfogle** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:52 pm

Sounds like China needs a good war to march these surplus males into.

WW3 is gonna kick so much ass.

butters · Post by **butters** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:55 pm

jaredfogle wrote:Sounds like China needs a good war to march these surplus males into.

WW3 is gonna kick so much ass.

You won't be saying that when the million man army is marching into your hometown.

Komid · Post by **Komid** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:56 pm

butters wrote:
jaredfogle wrote:Sounds like China needs a good war to march these surplus males into.

WW3 is gonna kick so much ass.
You won't be saying that when the million man army is marching into your hometown.

Mmmm, I hear they have been pioneering a new human bridging manuever to transport their army. Apparently they throw themselves into the pacific one by one until they form a massive chain that can link them to any country in the world.

jaredfogle · Post by **jaredfogle** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:49 pm

butters wrote:
jaredfogle wrote:Sounds like China needs a good war to march these surplus males into.

WW3 is gonna kick so much ass.
You won't be saying that when the million man army is marching into your hometown.

I'm having a really hard time finding a purpose for my life. A bunch of [chinese individuals] marching through my streets with rifles and tanks would be a blessing to me.

Hell, I'd be in Iraq right now if I thought it was worthwhile.

Dark Schneider · Post by **Dark Schneider** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:26 am

Jaredfoggle. It is exactly people like you that fuck this country up.

jaredfogle · Post by **jaredfogle** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:57 am

Dark Schneider wrote:Jaredfoggle. It is exactly people like you that fuck this country up.

How?

Please don't ignore that.

How are people like me fucking this country up?

mkfreak · Post by **mkfreak** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:01 am

Just look at George Bush.

Hawq · Post by **Hawq** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:05 pm

This from a country where girls are considered less worthy children than boys? I rather doubt anything will come of the plans

Dreamcast4life · Post by **Dreamcast4life** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:02 pm

Been waiting for the world to end. Finally no more worries after being blown to shit. BRING IT ON!!!

Sir Savant · Post by **Sir Savant** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:23 pm

jaredfogle wrote:
butters wrote:
jaredfogle wrote:Sounds like China needs a good war to march these surplus males into.

WW3 is gonna kick so much ass.
You won't be saying that when the million man army is marching into your hometown.
I'm having a really hard time finding a purpose for my life. A bunch of [chinese individuals] marching through my streets with rifles and tanks would be a blessing to me.

Hell, I'd be in Iraq right now if I thought it was worthwhile.

Although I will agree that it would be shit-dumb to have WW3 with China, if no nukes came into play, I would at least be brave enough to try and take out some chinese occupying forces. Climb a tree, pick em off one by one, and then come down with a machete for my last stand.

But I still say WW3 is a dumb idea.

jaredfogle · Post by **jaredfogle** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:13 pm

Sir Savant wrote:But I still say WW3 is a dumb idea.

Real wars don't seem to be avoidable.

When the shit hits the fan (population, resources, economy, etc.) every group of people will go down kicking and screaming.

DaMadFiddler · Post by **DaMadFiddler** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:26 pm

When I first saw this, something in my head saw "National Sausage Party." That would be an interesting political group...and they could have their choice of being the Nasal party, the NASA party, or the Nazi party for short.

mankrip · Post by **mankrip** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:48 pm

China continues to stand firmly behind its three-decade-old one-child policy planning policy

I guess they mean "family".

The government has pledged to keep the mainland population under 1.36 billion by 2010 and under 1.45 billion by 2020

If each couple (2 persons) has only 1 children and their population still increases instead of decreasing, there's something wrong.

jaredfogle · Post by **jaredfogle** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:19 pm

Fragger wrote:If each couple (2 persons) has only 1 children and their population still increases instead of decreasing, there's something wrong.

No, there isn't.

Your parents don't magically die when you have kids.

Post by **Roofus** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:20 pm

jaredfogle wrote:
Fragger wrote:If each couple (2 persons) has only 1 children and their population still increases instead of decreasing, there's something wrong.
No, there isn't.

Your parents don't magically die when you have kids.

But they do die eventually. With fewer people to replace them, the population should decline.

jaredfogle · Post by **jaredfogle** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:24 pm

Roofus wrote:
jaredfogle wrote:
Fragger wrote:If each couple (2 persons) has only 1 children and their population still increases instead of decreasing, there's something wrong.
No, there isn't.

Your parents don't magically die when you have kids.
But they do die eventually. With fewer people to replace them, the population should decline.

I don't know what the lifetime expectancy is there, but I'd imagine most folks live to see their grandkids.

I don't feel like articulating it mathematically, but assuming a new generation in each line every 20 years... It should grow still, right?

az_bont · Post by **az_bont** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:49 pm

jaredfogle wrote:I don't feel like articulating it mathematically, but assuming a new generation in each line every 20 years... It should grow still, right?

No, it should decrease.

Think of your family tree, assuming your family abided by a one-child-only policy:

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16 great-grandparents
           |
  4 grandparents
           |
      2 parents
           |
       1 of you

When one generation dies (your 16 great-grandparents), another is created (one of you).

Sir Savant · Post by **Sir Savant** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:56 pm

jaredfogle wrote:
Roofus wrote:
jaredfogle wrote:
Fragger wrote:If each couple (2 persons) has only 1 children and their population still increases instead of decreasing, there's something wrong.
No, there isn't.

Your parents don't magically die when you have kids.
But they do die eventually. With fewer people to replace them, the population should decline.
I don't know what the lifetime expectancy is there, but I'd imagine most folks live to see their grandkids.

I don't feel like articulating it mathematically, but assuming a new generation in each line every 20 years... It should grow still, right?

No.

2 Parents - 1 Female
2 Parents - 1 Male

Female + Male = 1 Kid

So from 4 people we are now down to one (assuming those old-timer's die).

Also, their one-child per family policy only applies to the majority ethnic groups. Any minorities are exempt from this policy (they do not want to kill of some cultural diversity anymore) and people living in the countryside have more lax rules. There are also other exemptions (disabled first child, must be spaced out by a number of years, sometimes both parents being only-children), but for the most part, it is only for the majority Han people. So there should be a lessening of the Han people (the majority, 92% of all chinese) and an increase in minorities.

Still, even if those minorities were like catholics or something, there is no way they could account for a growth, and therefore there would still be a decrease in population size (eventually).

jaredfogle · Post by **jaredfogle** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:14 pm

az_bont wrote:
jaredfogle wrote:I don't feel like articulating it mathematically, but assuming a new generation in each line every 20 years... It should grow still, right?
No, it should decrease.

Think of your family tree, assuming your family abided by a one-child-only policy:
Code: Select all
16 great-grandparents
           |
  4 grandparents
           |
      2 parents
           |
       1 of you
When one generation dies (your 16 great-grandparents), another is created (one of you).

Aren't you missing half of it, though? Those great grandparents had eight kids total, not just the four that made your parents.