Kotaku wrote: With titles like Red Steel on Wii, Nintendo seems nevertheless to want less and less [association] with children. One said the same thing on Gamecube and finally, they are nevertheless children, in very great majority, who bought. But the very great majority remains children nevertheless.
You do not feel that that can evolve/move with Wii?
With what I saw, frankly, not.
As well as:
It is not because we saw Nintendo announcing this functionality that in six months Sony immediately started to develop something. In six months, it is impossible; this kind of project takes years.
Okay, I'm willing to also buy that. So why did some developers have to allegedly retrofit their original control schemes to adapt to the gyro wizardry of the PS3 controller, while others were completely oblivious to its very existence? It is a mystery.
Now, onto Phil Harrison and how he feels about the best gaming platform ever, the PC.
Besides defending the PS3, Harrison took time to evangelize the device, which will launch worldwide this November. In particular he said the Linux-based operating system on the console's hard drive will have enough processing power and non-gaming functionalities to render traditional PCs--most of which use a form of Microsoft's Windows OS--moot in the home. "We believe that the PS3 will be the place where our users play games, watch films, browse the Web, and use other [home] computer functions," said Harrison. "The PlayStation 3 is a computer. We do not need the PC."
Get Rid of Your PCs
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Get Rid of Your PCs
I'm waiting for the inevitable backlash, considering this is loosely translated.
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XP MCE like functionality maybe
web browsing, email, messaging, on-line chat, sony movie downloads, sony music downloads, plug in your sony walkman, camera etc, playback of current media formats and (of course) gaming.
so yeah for a kid or someones mom more used to a sky plus box then yeah 'it can replace a PC'
(notice all sony hardware and 'software', see i can be cynical too)
it'll just look like a further extension of Xbox stuff, everyones aiming for the same thing - a locked box for the living room doing all of the above = convergence. they were telling us about it years ago, just now all the console players are gonna be in the same ball park.
and the arguments about coping and originality will fly but in the end they're about as relavent as those in the browser wars.
its also worth remembering that there are two ways of interpreting 'PC' - IBM-PC 'our loveable upgradeable constantly tweakable grey boxes' and 'Personal Computer'
having used many PCs before arriving at IBM-PCs, (Atari STs and Amigas especially) i can see that if you take that interpretation, he has a point. if your not computer savvy and like the look of XP MCE (on a big screen TV) then you may well consider a console with the same immediate functionality as an alternative purchase.
not much point to this post really, as it'll be torn down by nintendy'bots convinced the introduction of real physical skill and coordination into console games is a good thing and, in some cases i'm sure, forgetting why they got into computer games as opposed to real ones in the first place.
"wanna play wii mario tennis ?"
"you know there's a tennis court over the other side of the street there"
"but look, i can play with Sven in Hong Kong with this wand in front of the TV, it is really kinda hard to hit the backhands right though . . . and the serves . . . the ball being invisible outside the TV doesn't help . . ."
"Yeah about that, we were in with those Girls last week till you showed them your 'bushido blade' light saber technique for 3 hours"
"so ? i won"
"do it again and i'm gonna stick that wand up your arse"
web browsing, email, messaging, on-line chat, sony movie downloads, sony music downloads, plug in your sony walkman, camera etc, playback of current media formats and (of course) gaming.
so yeah for a kid or someones mom more used to a sky plus box then yeah 'it can replace a PC'
(notice all sony hardware and 'software', see i can be cynical too)
it'll just look like a further extension of Xbox stuff, everyones aiming for the same thing - a locked box for the living room doing all of the above = convergence. they were telling us about it years ago, just now all the console players are gonna be in the same ball park.
and the arguments about coping and originality will fly but in the end they're about as relavent as those in the browser wars.
its also worth remembering that there are two ways of interpreting 'PC' - IBM-PC 'our loveable upgradeable constantly tweakable grey boxes' and 'Personal Computer'
having used many PCs before arriving at IBM-PCs, (Atari STs and Amigas especially) i can see that if you take that interpretation, he has a point. if your not computer savvy and like the look of XP MCE (on a big screen TV) then you may well consider a console with the same immediate functionality as an alternative purchase.
not much point to this post really, as it'll be torn down by nintendy'bots convinced the introduction of real physical skill and coordination into console games is a good thing and, in some cases i'm sure, forgetting why they got into computer games as opposed to real ones in the first place.
"wanna play wii mario tennis ?"
"you know there's a tennis court over the other side of the street there"
"but look, i can play with Sven in Hong Kong with this wand in front of the TV, it is really kinda hard to hit the backhands right though . . . and the serves . . . the ball being invisible outside the TV doesn't help . . ."
"Yeah about that, we were in with those Girls last week till you showed them your 'bushido blade' light saber technique for 3 hours"
"so ? i won"
"do it again and i'm gonna stick that wand up your arse"
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Heh, I hope there is more merit to it this time around.... you know, since it was promised for the PS2 and all....mikozero wrote:if there's a Linux build and a HDD explain to me why that wouldn't workASCIIN wrote:seeing a lot of sony fanboys aren't the brightest bunch I won't be shocked if someone buys a pc game and tries to play it on their ps3..
(and no i'm not a 'fanboy')
With the cell processor I really don't see instruction sets getting ported over easily at all.
because most pc games require direct x..mikozero wrote:if there's a Linux build and a HDD explain to me why that wouldn't workASCIIN wrote:seeing a lot of sony fanboys aren't the brightest bunch I won't be shocked if someone buys a pc game and tries to play it on their ps3..
(and no i'm not a 'fanboy')
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of the game !mikozero wrote:Linux build
any ID game, a good few UT versions (UTC/2003/2004/2006) and therefore all games based on these popular engines (in theory) and others run in OpenGL (?) under Linux (though usually you have to send off for the disc)
PS3 runs Linux, PS3 games are developed on Linux (i think)
PS3 takes a PC standard HDD (from what i've read)
actually i'm seeing something else in that now, lots of new console games being developed on and for a Linux Platform.
i wonder if any developers will 'get clever'
it would really piss off microsoft (which would please sony no doubt) if PS3 ports started coming out for Linux (say with a 6 month lag or something).
nah, it'll probably just be like WinCE on the DC, right ?
it doesn't run linux, the os is LINUX-BASED which could cause a lot of problems simular to how xbox runs a stripped down version of Dx8 but not the complete version.mikozero wrote:of the game !mikozero wrote:Linux build
any ID game, a good few UT versions (UTC/2003/2004/2006) and therefore all games based on these popular engines (in theory) and others run in OpenGL (?) under Linux (though usually you have to send off for the disc)
PS3 runs Linux, PS3 games are developed on Linux (i think)
PS3 takes a PC standard HDD (from what i've read)
actually i'm seeing something else in that now, lots of new console games being developed on and for a Linux Platform.
i wonder if any developers will 'get clever'
it would really piss off microsoft (which would please sony no doubt) if PS3 ports started coming out for Linux (say with a 6 month lag or something).
nah, it'll probably just be like WinCE on the DC, right ?
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It's different, because "Linux" is just a kernel. KDE/Gnome and all that stuff has nothing to do with Linux. Chances are it will simply have a ported and optimized Linux kernel compiled with only the options it needs.ASCIIN wrote:it doesn't run linux, the os is LINUX-BASED which could cause a lot of problems simular to how xbox runs a stripped down version of Dx8 but not the complete version.
It's thinking...
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Also, they'll probably hide anything important behind a closed-source kernel module (there are potential legal issues surrounding the distribution of the resulting OS, but it should be possible to dodge them) with restricted interfaces.
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not to mention the fact that ALL PC games (save for a few old mac titles) are compiled for x86 cpu's and the CELL cant run that, if you are lucky it shares some ISA with the PPC... and no CELL isnt powerfull enough to emulate x86 at reasonable speedsASCIIN wrote:because most pc games require direct x..mikozero wrote:if there's a Linux build and a HDD explain to me why that wouldn't workASCIIN wrote:seeing a lot of sony fanboys aren't the brightest bunch I won't be shocked if someone buys a pc game and tries to play it on their ps3..
(and no i'm not a 'fanboy')
so basicly you would need a very universal PPC compile of a game coded for linux, OpenGL running on the ps3, and a shit load of luck for the compatibility
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awww did i hurt your sony loving heart?Roofus wrote:YOU TAKE THAT BACK THE CELL CAN EMULATE ANYTHING EVEN STUFF THATS NOT OUT YET fudge YOU!!!!!!!111no CELL isnt powerfull enough to emulate x86 at reasonable speeds
from what ive read, i wouldnt be the least bit surprised if the PS3 turns out to be less powerfull then the 360, i would actually be surprised if the ps3 is more powerfull
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