Nintendo Wii bundeled with Opera Browser

toastman · Post by **toastman** » Fri May 12, 2006 12:33 am

BlackAura wrote:AJAX is a dodgy acronym. Basically, it's just the ability to make requests to a webserver from JavaScript, retrieve a document (usually XML or HTML) and do something with it (either display it, or pull information out of it and display that). It allows you to write applications that can communicate with a web server without needing to constantly reload the page. Stuff like Gmail and Google Maps runs on it.

In other words, Javascript. AJAX stands for (depending on who you ask), Asynchronous Javascript And XML.
It works pretty much as BlackAura describes. The page makes a request to the server, the server processes it and puts it somewhere the page can call it from and notifies the page that it is done. The page then reads this file and updates the current itself with the new information.
It is supposed to make the web-application experience more seamless and less tit-for-tat.
It also has a habit of "breaking the back button". And it is also the new buzzword, although "AJAX" technology has been around for a while now. People are just now using the pieces in this manner.

Just thought I'd expound a little on BA's post.

ace · Post by **ace** » Fri May 12, 2006 1:21 am

What's the point? My thoughts can basically be summed up with Nick's posts. I just don't really see who will use this feature outside of the novelty of it -especially since the Revolution won't support high definition.

Surfing the net barely able to read anything is not the way to go. I know, because my monitor is currently dead and I'm currently using my tv for my pc display. Thank god for my iBook.

Nyarlathotep · Post by **Nyarlathotep** » Fri May 12, 2006 2:43 am

Opera is built into Wii system ROM, so you can go on the internet through the system Dashboard.

Not essential, but nice. You can also download things while your console is turned 'off'. Its also going to be free without any subscription fees with the purchase of the console.

By comparison with Live - as 'some people' have tried to do;
Live requires a subscription to access *all* online content.
Live doesnt let you do anything except leave your console on downloading while downloading.
Live has no internet access other than whats available through Live.

a quote from my 'favourite' senior Xbox representative: (Specifically talking about Sonys online, but it applies to Nintendo too)

Gamesindustry.biz: Does Sony's announcement that they won't charge a subscription fee on their online service put pressure on you to follow suit on Live?

Peter Moore:Well, on Xbox Live Silver you can do anything except play multiplayer. What Sony has actually announced is that they're pushing the emphasis to the publishers to figure out what they want to charge. They have said, "we're not going to charge you" - but if you truly believe that the publishers are going to build data centres, build user interfaces, network stacks, run bandwidth costs, egress costs, do compatibility with every provider around the world... For free?

er.... yes?
GameSpy, Nintendo WiFi, Sony Online, Steam, All Seeing Eye, Battlefield 1942, Battlefield MC, Counter Strike, Quake 3, Enemy Territory, yada yada yada

Wagh · Post by **Wagh** » Fri May 12, 2006 10:44 am

Angry much?

No never.

Like I said before. Any chance I get to support Opera I will. I'm tempted to buy a ds just to use that opera on the go. I <3 using Opera on my tablet pc so I'm hoping the experience is pretty much the same just smaller.

gamedudex2 · Post by **gamedudex2** » Fri May 12, 2006 11:33 am

well they should allow you to make your own server on pc

Lartrak · Post by **Lartrak** » Fri May 12, 2006 1:45 pm

Surfing the net barely able to read anything is not the way to go.

PCs are designed with a high res monitor in mind. Did you ever use the Dreamcast online for web browsing? It worked fine, due to magnification options and large font use.

Admittedly, it's not something I would use a whole lot (maybe once in a while if I want to check a FAQ while playing a game and don't feel like getting up), but I'd rather have it than not.

Post by **Quzar** » Fri May 12, 2006 2:29 pm

Opera for cellphones work fine too even though it's tiny resolution.

Anyways, this has pushed the wii buying probability up for me by a few %.

Skynet · Post by **Skynet** » Fri May 12, 2006 9:05 pm

Lartrak wrote:
Surfing the net barely able to read anything is not the way to go.
PCs are designed with a high res monitor in mind. Did you ever use the Dreamcast online for web browsing? It worked fine, due to magnification options and large font use.

Admittedly, it's not something I would use a whole lot (maybe once in a while if I want to check a FAQ while playing a game and don't feel like getting up), but I'd rather have it than not.

I still use my Xbox with links browser if I wanna search the net from my bedroom for whatever reason. It's more comfortable in bed then at my computer desk. But I do have a laptop so I don't really need to use it all that often. But my Xbox boots up links a lot faster than my laptop boots up windows > firefox.

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Sat May 13, 2006 3:07 am

Has anyone thought of the possibility of this being used (With a very polished GUI) for downloadable content?

Skynet · Post by **Skynet** » Sat May 13, 2006 3:16 am

Has anyone thought of the possibility of this being used (With a very polished GUI) for downloadable content?

Why not just have it connect to a website that does the same thing? Rather than making the new GUI for it, just link to a website. Just make it inside of a webpage rather than anything else?

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Sat May 13, 2006 8:06 am

Well, maybe it will just be a website, but a seperate app to the browser. What I meant by GUI was that the Opera engine is used but theres a user friendly interface, like XB Live

Nyarlathotep · Post by **Nyarlathotep** » Sat May 13, 2006 1:14 pm

mattthemodder wrote:Well, maybe it will just be a website, but a seperate app to the browser. What I meant by GUI was that the Opera engine is used but theres a user friendly interface, like XB Live

...or just a nintendo portal set as homepage.

MulletMan13 · Post by **MulletMan13** » Sat May 13, 2006 1:47 pm

It means that instead of getting up from playing the console to go to the PC to check mail, sites, etc. you don't have to get up and can do it from the TV.

Laziness +1

... but I welcome it

DaMadFiddler · Post by **DaMadFiddler** » Sat May 13, 2006 3:06 pm

+1 Wii of Laziness

Post by **BlueCrab** » Sat May 13, 2006 3:20 pm

Lunchbox wrote:There better be a keyboard peripheral coming to the Wii too

I'm sure that with the USB ports that are purportedly on the Wii, that USB keyboards will work with it. There's also the possibility that Bluetooth keyboards could work as well, considering that's what they are using for the controllers. There's also the Gamecube keyboard adapters that came out, which could possibly also work.

ace · Post by **ace** » Sat May 13, 2006 4:19 pm

Lartrak wrote:
Surfing the net barely able to read anything is not the way to go.
PCs are designed with a high res monitor in mind. Did you ever use the Dreamcast online for web browsing? It worked fine, due to magnification options and large font use.

Admittedly, it's not something I would use a whole lot (maybe once in a while if I want to check a FAQ while playing a game and don't feel like getting up), but I'd rather have it than not.

I have a laptop, so I don't have to get up, but I do agree it would be handy for FAQs, cheats, and general game info.

I remember the planet web magnification, and I remember it not being very good. It was a nice feature, but the limited scope made it difficult for me to use. I could read faster than I could scroll so I would end up purposely reading slower. As I said, it will work in a pinch, but you probably won't be using it too often outside of surfing the web on your tv.

GratefulDead · Post by **GratefulDead** » Sat May 13, 2006 10:04 pm

Opera's not too bad. I actually paid for it here and there back in highschool.. I downloaded a warez version and thought that the authors were cool and deserved my money lol.

That's cool. I'd prefer Mozilla or Firefox (yeee!!) but Opera's still great!

robotecha5 · Post by **robotecha5** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:46 pm

seems like its just a nifty add on. I wonder if 360 and ps3 will come out with web browsers?

Skynet · Post by **Skynet** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:51 am

seems like its just a nifty add on. I wonder if 360 and ps3 will come out with web browsers?

Nifty, yes. But it could be usefull for downloading save files, etc. for your games. Same way you could do with the DC. So not only nifty, but has some use. As for PS3 statement, it was said at E3 I believe that once they've finalized the ps3 dashboard it will have a browser. As they have with the PSP.