Sarge leaves rifle on hill

Hawq · Post by **Hawq** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:12 pm

Yes a few days afetr a Sig Sauer was left behind in supermarket toilets by a dozy woman on exercises another guns gone missing, this time an SA80, so no cause for alarm then as it wont work if its a bit cold or warm or anywhere inbetween presumably

AN Army search was under way last night after a soldier lost his gun ? an SA80 assault rifle.
The Sergeant Major had been using the weapon, which fires 700 rounds a minute, during an exercise in the Brecon Beacons.

Military chiefs suspended the exercise and ordered all 900 troops to search for the 5.56mm automatic rifle which was loaded with 20 rounds of blanks.

But despite a 12-hour hillside hunt the rifle has still not been found.

The missing gun belonged to an Artificer Sergeant Major in charge of a 90-strong group of Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers.

An insider said: ?The ASM handed the rifle to one of his juniors at a temporary command post while he went off to do some admin.

?When he got back the command post had moved and he couldn?t find his weapon.?

The Special Investigation Branch of the Royal Military Police have now been called in. Civilian cops from the surrounding area of Dyfed Powys have also been alerted.

A spokeswoman for the Ministry of Defence said: ?We take all losses of weapons very seriously.?

source & these people are meant to make us feel safe?

fatheadpi · Post by **fatheadpi** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:30 am

See, this is why you never pass your weapon off to anyone when you've signed it out. You sling it when you eat or sh*t and cuddle up next to it in your sleeping bag or on your cot. I can't believe a SGM would do that, basic trainees learn better than that.

Syd · Post by **Syd** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:37 am

fatheadpi wrote:You sling it when you eat or sh*t and cuddle up next to it in your sleeping bag or on your cot.

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman wrote:Tonight, you men will sleep with your rifles. You will give your rifle a girl's name because this is the only pussy you people are going to get. Your days of finger-banging ol' Mary J. Rottencrotch through her pertty pink panties are over! You're married to this piece. This weapon of iron and wood. And you will be faithful.

hearld500 · Post by **hearld500** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:24 am

Big deal. A single gun. Good luck to that guy trying to find ammo for it.

Hawq · Post by **Hawq** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:58 pm

Yes a single gun, a single assault rifle oh wait.... thats not such a small thing is it?

mikozero · Post by **mikozero** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:32 pm

SA80s a piece of shit anyway, 3 days outside with no maintenance and it'll never work again.

Hawq · Post by **Hawq** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:22 pm

Well unless they save them for people going to war it'd be the SA80 mk2 which was fixed

hearld500 · Post by **hearld500** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:34 pm

Hawq wrote:Yes a single gun, a single assault rifle oh wait.... thats not such a small thing is it?

An assult rifle doesn't do much good when it has blanks in it. Try finding ammo for that calaber. Pretty difficult.

Hawq · Post by **Hawq** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:48 pm

Theres ways of getting it & the blanks can still do some harm

Lartrak · Post by **Lartrak** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:08 pm

Hawq wrote:Theres ways of getting it & the blanks can still do some harm

There's also ways of getting illegal guns in the UK.

Hawq · Post by **Hawq** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:56 pm

I never said otherwise but I think a machine gun would fetch a nice price & the ammo would be available & if not found its gonna be trouble for someone

fatheadpi · Post by **fatheadpi** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:30 am

What caliber is the SA80 anyways? And you're calling it an assualt rifle so I'll assume it's a bit beyond the individual weapon, like say an M-16 or M-4 carbine. Is this an individual machine gun, something like an M249 SAW, or a heavier crew-served machine gun like an M240 or the old M60?

I wouldn't think ammo would be terribly hard to find, probably uses either standard NATO 5.56MM or "commie" 7.62MM ammo. If it's a heavier weapon, maybe .308 caliber, all readily (and cheaply) available. Hell you could get an ammo press and load a few hundred rounds yourself in an evening.

I doubt it's been ripped off and sold though. if I was out in the field and had a chance to "appropriate" an M4 with a grenade launcher or an M249/M240, I'd swipe it, dissassemble it, and send it home.

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman wrote:
Tonight, you men will sleep with your rifles. You will give your rifle a girl's name because this is the only pussy you people are going to get. Your days of finger-banging ol' Mary J. Rottencrotch through her pertty pink panties are over! You're married to this piece. This weapon of iron and wood. And you will be faithful.

It's funny, but we were just mentioning this line at work the other day.

Lartrak · Post by **Lartrak** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 7:19 pm

It uses 5.56 NATO, and is roughly comparable to the M16 in use.. Except that it's a bullpup, of course. It even has a similar history of malfunctions in early versions of it. SA80 and L85A1 are more or less the same thing.