Neo4All / NeoDC - Neither will play my Last Resort CD

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Neo4All / NeoDC - Neither will play my Last Resort CD

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I bought a Last Resort Neo Geo CD game from http://www.egameaddiction.com (great online store) and I can't get it to run on my Dreamcast with either of the emulators. It just gives me the stupid "insert disc" message each time I try it. Any ideas how I can make it work?
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Post by Quzar »

NeoDC is untested with Last Resort. My best suggestion would be to pop the disc into a PC (or mac or whatever computer with a CD burner) and burn a new disc based on the original one. The machine should fix whatever funkyness there is with the disc's filestructure.

Currently the only emulator that has low level emulation of the NGCD is Nebula, and all we have are ones that read the files as if they were plainfiles.
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Post by dczx »

Wow, that fixed it. Actually, I just made a straight copy to CDR of the original and now it works! Weird.
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Post by Quzar »

Some say it's a form of copy protection, but it isn't really, it's just a non-standard filestructure that sometimes the DC can't read properly. I was able to get around it by having a completely different file reading setup, but it would have been immense work to replace everything with it, and it didn't always work =P.
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Post by dczx »

P.S. NeoDC seems to still have some trouble with Last Resort. The sounds kind of weird and it runs a bit slow I think.

thanks for the tips!
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The sound is scaled to the speed. the speed isn't quite fullspeed.
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Post by law56ker »

what happend to these emulators?
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Post by Quzar »

I'm still working on it. I moved back off of my college campus though and have yet to be able to get my BBA workin properly. Also I've had almost 0 freetime. I figured a way to make it significantly faster, and am going to be working on it in the next week or so.

as for chui, i dunno, maybe it's because i havn't released a new version recently =P
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Post by dczx »

I thought I saw a post that he was integrating a new Z80 core.
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Post by Quzar »

no. it was announced that fox has BEGUN to port raze (which, if you know anything about assembly makes no sense, the whole point is to have something made specifically for the system) and will use it in neo4all and the amiga emulator (i think? or was it the ST emulator).
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Post by Eiji »

Good to see its still being worked on.
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Post by Juan »

Quotable Quzar wrote:as for chui, i dunno, maybe it's because i havn't released a new version recently =P
:lol:

Regardless of Neo4All, NeoDC is awesome and any improvements will be welcome (needless to say, but still :P )

Keep it up Quzar :)
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Post by Christuserloeser »

law56ker wrote:what happend to these emulators?
Go and see for yourself. The last releases run pretty much perfectly already. I'd give them a 9/10. It will be very hard to improve them... Thanks to Quzar, Fox & Chui for their fantastic job!

I just wish Quzar would stop talking bad about Fox & Chui :roll:
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Post by Quzar »

It's only poking fun at an aparently humorous situation. C'mon, we both release 4 things within a day of each other each time but alternating who was first by a few hours?

as long as it isn't true it's not bad talk =P.
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Post by Repoman23 »

Is the newest version of NEODC the one that is listed on the download page for it from dcemulation.org?

Cause thats the one i downloaded but i dunno if its the newest. i think its from may...
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Post by Quzar »

download it at http://www.screamcast.net that is the official download site.
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Post by Repoman23 »

Thanks. Under compadability Magical Drop 2 doesnt have any smiley face or face.
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Post by Quzar »

That means it is untested.
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Post by Christuserloeser »

DCEmulation.com hasn't been updated since early 2004 :?
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Post by Sonic-NKT »

Nice to hear your still working on the emu..
yes the current ones are allready pretty good, but i have still several problems with some games. (some games dont run at all or have no SFX)
anyway, thanks for your hard work
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