Unexpected reference of one game in another.

mink03 · Post by **mink03** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:22 pm

sweet find

Lunchbox · Post by **Lunchbox** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:06 pm

also James McCloud in FZero GX is a take on Fox's dad from the StarFox games. He's a human in FZero, but the starfox similarities are clearly there

Post by **melancholy** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:25 am

What about in Mario RPG, where you actually fight one of the bosses in a Final Fantasy game.

az_bont · Post by **az_bont** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:28 am

I thought it was just the battle music and fanfare that was the same? The fight against Culex, right?

Post by **melancholy** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:17 pm

az_bont wrote:I thought it was just the battle music and fanfare that was the same? The fight against Culex, right?

Yeah, that one. I thought it was an actual boss from a FF game. Could be wrong.

Nyarlathotep · Post by **Nyarlathotep** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 5:31 pm

melancholy wrote:
az_bont wrote:I thought it was just the battle music and fanfare that was the same? The fight against Culex, right?
Yeah, that one. I thought it was an actual boss from a FF game. Could be wrong.

It is, from ff5 if I remmeber correctly

weeperofsouls · Post by **weeperofsouls** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 5:32 pm

in final fantasy 7 they had a couple references to evangelion in the museum at the golden saucer. oh wait thats anime... never mind.

Post by **melancholy** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 6:08 pm

weeperofsouls wrote:in final fantasy 7 they had a couple references to evangelion in the museum at the golden saucer. oh wait thats anime... never mind.

...really?

Like what?

DeGamer · Post by **DeGamer** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 6:55 pm

mink03 wrote:sweet find

agreed

az_bont · Post by **az_bont** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:54 am

Nyarlathotep wrote:
melancholy wrote:
az_bont wrote:I thought it was just the battle music and fanfare that was the same? The fight against Culex, right?
Yeah, that one. I thought it was an actual boss from a FF game. Could be wrong.
It is, from ff5 if I remmeber correctly

I just checked, and as I suspected, he has not appeared in any Final Fantasy game. The battle music that plays is taken from Final Fantasy IV, as is the fanfare music (with a hint of FFVI).

"Contrary to popular opinion, Culex is NOT actually from any Final Fantasy games. He is designed to look like a number of Final Fantasy boss characters, but does not appear in any game other than [Super Mario RPG]."

http://www.planetnintendo.com/nindb/sns ... meos.shtml

Jeeba Jabba · Post by **Jeeba Jabba** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:59 am

They mention Resident Evil in Resident Evil 3.

perry · Post by **perry** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 10:01 am

I think it's a common thing. Everyone says it.

I remember seeing an advertisement for shenmue in a game. Don't remember what though. Virtua Cop 2 seems to come to mind..

Nyarlathotep · Post by **Nyarlathotep** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:28 pm

az_bont wrote:
Nyarlathotep wrote:
melancholy wrote:
az_bont wrote:I thought it was just the battle music and fanfare that was the same? The fight against Culex, right?
Yeah, that one. I thought it was an actual boss from a FF game. Could be wrong.
It is, from ff5 if I remmeber correctly
I just checked, and as I suspected, he has not appeared in any Final Fantasy game. The battle music that plays is taken from Final Fantasy IV, as is the fanfare music (with a hint of FFVI).

"Contrary to popular opinion, Culex is NOT actually from any Final Fantasy games. He is designed to look like a number of Final Fantasy boss characters, but does not appear in any game other than [Super Mario RPG]."
http://www.planetnintendo.com/nindb/sns ... meos.shtml

I'm fairly certain it is an actual FF boss who was either in one of the Japan only ones, or was renamed or cut in the american translation - that site you posted is in no way an authoritative source given that all that info is reader submitted, but I don't really want to wade through a bunch of square-obssessive forums to get at the 'actual truth'

EDIT: although GameFAQs categorically states its a boss in FF2 / FF4

Clessy · Post by **Clessy** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 2:48 pm

Could anyone take a picture by picture of culex?
I've beat every final Fantasy 1-10 including the japanese only ones and I simply dont remember that name. Was he very minior?

az_bont · Post by **az_bont** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:53 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:I'm fairly certain it is an actual FF boss who was either in one of the Japan only ones, or was renamed or cut in the american translation - that site you posted is in no way an authoritative source given that all that info is reader submitted, but I don't really want to wade through a bunch of square-obssessive forums to get at the 'actual truth'

EDIT: although GameFAQs categorically states its a boss in FF2 / FF4

If you do a Google search for "culex" and "final fantasy", you'll find quite a few more examples:

"Culex was actually NOT in Final Fantasy 4, just placed in SMRPG by Square. The music is from FF4, also stuck into SMRPG by Square, probably because it's the most recognizable boss theme..."

http://www.ocremix.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00790

"Culex is not from any Final Fantasy game. He is just a generic, FF-ish character."

http://www.classicgaming.com/tmk/mailbag_010817.shtml

"[Culex] appeared in Mario RPG, but is obviously related to the Final Fantasy games though he never actually appears in them."

http://www.lemmykoopa.com/lk21/lk21-5-culex.html

"culex is only in supermario rpg.
no final fantasy games."

"Yeah. He's not in any Final Fantasy. The only things the battle has in common with the Final Fantasy series are the four crystals, and the victory music."

"Culex is only in Super Mario RPG. Just because he has FFIV's boss theme and that he is a dark knight doesn't mean he is from that series. He is only seen in Super Mario RPG. Oh yeah, and they threw the FF victory theme when you beat him in just for kicks."

"Culex is a unique enemy, made in Amano's artwork style..."

http://forums.eyesonff.com/archive/inde ... 49115.html

"A hidden boss in Monstro Town is Culex. Although this boss doesn't appear in any Final Fantasy, his cohorts, the four Crystals, should be familiar to everyone! His boss music is identical to that of FF4, and the victory music is the ever-loved Victory Fanfare."

http://www.ffcompendium.com/h/excross.shtml

Also, RPGClassics has complete lists of every enemy in the games, complete with pictures:

Final Fantasy I
Final Fantasy II
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy VI

No mention of Culex - and no sight of him, either.

By the way, Final Fantasy V was the Japan-exclusive title, at least until it got translated and released on the Playstation in North America and Europe several years later.

Post by **melancholy** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 12:47 am

Wow, all that just to answer my question. Um...thanks Az.

Maximo2703 · Post by **Maximo2703** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:55 am

i think when this topic was orginally posted he meant it was an unexcepted reference because the 2 games had nothing to do with each other...meaning wasn't from the same series not from the same developer or publisher.

but keeping with what this topic has turned into with........Pac Man World 2 has references to Dig Dug with those little red creatures being a baddie in the game...then in Pac Man World one theres a whole level based on Galaga/Galaxian..not only that ,but in both Pacman World games the item you collect to get into a bonus stage is a Galaxian sprite.

another would be in Mario RPG(SNES) Link sleeping in the bed at that inn in Mapletown(not sure if thats the name its been yrs since i played it) and Samus sleeping in the bed in the Mushroom Kingdom Castle which i have yet to see but i seen screen shots.

The mention of Nights references in Sonic Adventure 2 for DC its in the GC verison as well which also theres a nights reference in the casino level in Sonic Adventure its a whole pinball thing

less anyone forget the Mario 64 references in Zelda OoT when you first meet Zelda ,or how about in the new Metal Gear Solid Twin Snakes the Mario & Yoshi reference plus there were a lot of nintendo references in the Donkey Kong Country games to either systems or other mascots