64 Bit AMD

daisyboy13 · Post by **daisyboy13** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:27 pm

Are 64 bit processors worth it or should I wait?

Sir C.A.T · Post by **Sir C.A.T** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:29 pm

There worth it if you like fast processors.

Captain Spaulding · Post by **Captain Spaulding** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:41 pm

I am running a 3200+ 64 bit 1 gig corsair xms ram. Its kinda hard to say if it was worth the 380 or so for the processor. It does a good job encoding video, and i have no problems running games at max settings with the help of geforce fx5900. I wouldnt take back buying it though. Seeing as how the programs i run are 32 bit it does a good job at running them. I would like to have a 64 bit program to test out.

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:42 pm

If I could I would get one of the cheaper A64's over any P4. Iirc, a cheap one is about the same as a 3200XP.

SinTex · Post by **SinTex** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:54 pm

A review i read on a 2.4Ghz Athlon XP & 2.4Ghz AMD 64 754pin showed the AMD 64 converts vid files at around 95% faster also almost twice as many FPS on various games. Both PC's had 1gig 400mhz ram & same gfx cards ATI Radeon 9600 i think.

Veggita2099 · Post by **Veggita2099** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:49 pm

Wait a year and they will be a lot cheaper.

nakamichi · Post by **nakamichi** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:58 pm

I will still wait until they make a motherboard with PCI express,S-ATA with command queuing,DDR2 support,ATi SLi-like support,WiMax and 7.1 surround integrated audio.And,the motherboard to support AMD64 and AMD 64 FX.

Post by **Quzar** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:00 pm

WinXP SP2 will bring an important performance boost in everyday use to these chips.

nakamichi · Post by **nakamichi** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:01 pm

If ASUS makes a high-end motherboard like this with an nVidia chipset and High-Def 24-bit integrated 7.1 audio processor(SoundStorm2),I'll buy it,together with a good AMD 64.

nakamichi · Post by **nakamichi** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:04 pm

? what boost?
I only know of the additional NX-bit anti-virus protection for AMD64 processors.Nothing else performance-wise will be improved for AMD64 chips.
Micro$oft hates AMD,and they will not let Intel,their strategic partner to lose it's market,because AMD64's will get a boost over P4 CPUs.

Post by **Quzar** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:12 pm

SP2 will integrate 64-bit functionality into windows, basically allowing the normal version to act closer to the 64bit windows on the AMD64s.

ETR · Post by **ETR** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:12 pm

FarCry and UT2k4 are amazing on a 64 bit.... My buddy got one for graduation.

nakamichi · Post by **nakamichi** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:16 pm

BUT THERE ARE NO 64BIT PROGRAMS YET

Sorry about the Caps Lock,it was intentionally used.

Pyrosurfer · Post by **Pyrosurfer** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:26 pm

When is Windows 64 coming out? Here's my setup Athlon 64 3200+, MSI FIS2R motherboard, Corsair XMS 1gig 3200 ram, and a radeon all in wonder 9800. I would say wait for PCI X and DDR2.

nakamichi · Post by **nakamichi** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:34 pm

PCI-X is essential for me:

More graphics power for HDTV editing and processing !
SLi Mode where 2 graphics cards can work together to double the power !
32-bit soundcards will FINALLY arrive,and sound latency will FINALLY reach below 1ms !

DDR2 is good,but motherboards should support DDR1 and DDR2.

and I like to get a motherboard with a heat dissipation layer that ASUS makes for it's high-end server boards.

When all of this technology arrives in a good ASUS motherboard,I'll buy it with a powerful AMD64.

Until then,I'll save some cash and get a cheap AMD XP2500+ and overclock it to the extreme on an ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard

Post by **Quzar** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:38 pm

PCI-X is already out. You two are both thinking of PCI-E, which is PCI-Express. PCI-X is just any PCI that is different from 32-bit 33Mhz. There are for instance 64-bit 33Mhz, 64-bit 66Mhz, 64-bit 133Mhz and I think one or two others.

There is already a 64-bit edition of Windows out, it just isnt mainstream.

nakamichi · Post by **nakamichi** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:42 pm

I'm talking about PCIe...X as in Xpress

Lartrak · Post by **Lartrak** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:42 pm

FLCL|ETR wrote:FarCry and UT2k4 are amazing on a 64 bit.... My buddy got one for graduation.

I've tried them both... They don't seem to run too well on my 64 3000+, with a 9800 pro and 512 DDR@3200. I think there is some kind of bottleneck I missed though, maybe they read a lot off the HDD or something? Bleh, pretty frustrating.

Pyrosurfer · Post by **Pyrosurfer** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:53 pm

quzar wrote:PCI-X is already out. You two are both thinking of PCI-E, which is PCI-Express. PCI-X is just any PCI that is different from 32-bit 33Mhz. There are for instance 64-bit 33Mhz, 64-bit 66Mhz, 64-bit 133Mhz and I think one or two others.

There is already a 64-bit edition of Windows out, it just isnt mainstream.

You mean the beta? I want to know when the final is coming out.

Post by **Quzar** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:13 pm

No. I mean the real deal. What you are thinking if is the 64-bit SP2 for standard WinXP. There already exists 64-bit editions of windows. Server 2003 64-bit.