VCD?

SlimDady · Post by **SlimDady** » Fri Mar 22, 2002 11:57 pm

I have a very good quality vcd of lord of the rings 4 cdz long. It works on dvd playerz.. but what free vcd player for dreamcast will play it well?

butters · Post by **butters** » Sat Mar 23, 2002 12:01 am

All there is as far as VCDs go is Gyplay, but you have to have the program on each CD.

My suggestion is to reencode to Divx and use DCDivx to watch it. You may be able to cut down by a disk or so like this.

BTW, isn't that movie still in theaters?

SlimDady · Post by **SlimDady** » Sat Mar 23, 2002 12:26 am

Shh! dont tell.

Im sure this will be closed shortly...

Man its awsome its like dvd quality. Dont know where they got it from but its the best ive seen ever

wang · Post by **wang** » Sat Mar 23, 2002 12:30 am

it is dvd quality..
it's the dvd screener, straight out of the screener place

but it's svcd as well, so i dunno about anything that plays svcd on dc?

Tails Prower · Post by **Tails Prower** » Sat Mar 23, 2002 1:02 am

wang wrote:it is dvd quality..
it's the dvd screener, straight out of the screener place
but it's svcd as well, so i dunno about anything that plays svcd on dc?

Someone came in the chat today and asked me if i had the Resident Evil movie. i was wondering why these people are gettin these damn movies and they're still in theatres.

SlimDady · Post by **SlimDady** » Sat Mar 23, 2002 2:56 am

another question you might ask..

uhh.. why spend 15$ to go see a movie when you can watch it at home for free?

btw. I saw resident evil at the movies.. It was very good

Nyarlathotep · Post by **Nyarlathotep** » Sat Mar 23, 2002 8:25 am

SlimDady wrote: uhh.. why spend 15$ to go see a movie when you can watch it at home for free?

uhh.. because Hollywood is a business, not a charity... if people stop going to the movies *MOVIES STOP BEING MADE* you 'tard

sphere79 · Post by **sphere79** » Sat Mar 23, 2002 1:30 pm

You CAN play VideoCD's in the Dreamcast with EXCELLENT
quality playback.

There were THREE "commercial" VCD players that came
out of Hong Kong. The VERY FIRST player was the one that
was "ripped" and is currently being distributed - some call it
the "xinghong" player. It has no controls, features choppy
playback, and out of sync audio - it is garbage, basically. It
had a "dongle" unit that plugged into the front of the DC, but
this was also removed for the pirate release. The second player
had the same software but also came with a remote to control
the player, still a crap player though. The third and latest VCD
player for the Dreamcast uses the same remote and "dongle"/
IR reciever as the second but features a much, much better
player. THIS is the one you want. Because of the dongle, and
the players need for a remote to even function this player
will most likely NOT be "ripped". Anyway, the playback is
full screen, 30fps with perfectly synced audio. You can play a
VCD ( no need to spend hours "re-encoding" ) or even .mpg
or .mpeg files that are just on a CD-ROM ( it does have to be
formatted mode 2 I believe ). As I said the playback is very
very good, suprisingly so even. I used my DC VGA box and
played the same file on my PC ( 800 MHz Athelon, 256 MB
RAM ) and on the DC and switched back and forth to compare.
Believe it or not IMO the DC player ACTUALLY BESTS
Windows Media player - it's the real deal folks. I know VCD,
I've burned my own discs way back since the Philips CD-i days,
this player is good. To use it you sinply plug in the IR unit and
put in the software disc ( It used to come on a CD-R with a
white remote but lately it's a silver remote and a pressed 3 inch
silk-screened software disc ) and boot the DC. After the player boots
you can swap to a VCD and select the "avseq01.dat" file and
begin playing. You can pause, stop, ff or rw - as well as align
the screen, adjust size, pick one channel for kareoke VCD's, mute
the volume, adjust the volume up or down, adjust balance, etc.
My only complaints are A: no selectable on-screen time count and
B: the ff and rw function kinda sucks. It's not "constant", you have
to keep hitting the button to continue searching - it basically just
jumps ahead or back a minute or so. Also, the range of the remote
is pretty weak, only 10, maybe 12 feet. But it IS a "bootleg" Chinese
product, and the bottom line is the playback quality is good and
thats what really matters. This player will also load an MP3 player
if you swap to an mp3 disc after booting. It's a good player but
the actual sound quality IS a hair better on some of the other DC
MP3 players. Oh, yea - the other DC player - (Gyplay)the free one - can
play .mpg files but it's not as good as the one reviewed above. To
get any sort of good playback you have to re-encode the file as a
VBR and lower the framerate to 24 fps - it's great as a free player
but basically it cannot play Video CD's.

Hope that helps....

You can buy it here:
http://www.lik-sang.com/catalog/product ... ts_id=1418&

or here:

http://www.playthegames.com

Also, Gamestop ( Babbages, Funcoland, etc. ) are now selling an "Innovation" branded version of the above player here:
( or bug your local retailer )

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=801396

Make SURE it's the one that does VCD's and MP3's and you'll be all set.

P.S. - Just a warning there has been a high number of these players that are dead out of the box - I've ordered one from Play the Games for me and two from Lik Sang as gifts - one was DOA. Upon closer inspection it was just a bad soldering job on the IR unit but either way you may want to ask them to test it before shipping or buy it as local as possible.

butters · Post by **butters** » Sat Mar 23, 2002 2:15 pm

Um, he asked about free VCD players, and we all know Gyplay is the only free one.

Speeddemon · Post by **Speeddemon** » Sat Mar 23, 2002 2:27 pm

why pay 25 dollars for a dreamvcd player, when.......a dvd/vcd player can be bought of ebay for 60 dollarS?

Lartrak · Post by **Lartrak** » Sat Mar 23, 2002 2:57 pm

"why pay 25 dollars for a dreamvcd player, when.......a dvd/vcd player can be bought of ebay for 60 dollarS?"

Why pay $60+$20 shipping for a DVD player when you can go pick up an Apex AD1500, hack it region free/no macrovision and pay $70 for it at a local store? Heh.

Though yeah, I could NEVER imagine buying a standalone VCD player (well, ok, I've bought two in my life - but both were portables and one had a 5.5" LCD) considering how cheap DVD players are already.

Mr._Chips · Post by **Mr._Chips** » Mon Mar 25, 2002 12:10 am

LarTrak wrote:Why pay $60+$20 shipping for a DVD player when you can go pick up an Apex AD1500, hack it region free/no macrovision and pay $70 for it at a local store? Heh.

Yes ! the Apex AD-1500 is AMAZING! I just bought one 2 days ago,($130 CDN) and thats the best price I've ever seen for any dvd player. Plus, it has MP3 support! In fact, in about an hour I will will be playing a VCD on a CD-RW!! I thought the AD1500 only had CD-R compat., but after reading the reviews on vcdhelp.com (a great site), it plays both "without a hitch". Happy happy, joy joy!

Buy this player and forget about DC VCD players. They are a rip off and the only "free" ones are warez and suck ass.

sphere79 · Post by **sphere79** » Mon Mar 25, 2002 6:28 pm

Mr._Chips wrote:
Buy this player and forget about DC VCD players. They are a rip off and the only "free" ones are warez and suck ass.

My old ( first gen ) DVD player didn't read CD-R's ( or even most RW's half the time ) so I needed a VCD player ( besides my PC ). I bought the DC "Dreammovie" player and the DVD remote for my Xbox and gave my old DVD player to my parents, problem solved. The Apex's are nice ( though I sometimes hear of people going through a few units before finding one that works ) but it was just cheaper and a whole 'lot more awesome to have the good 'ol Dreamcast playing Video CD's. I've wanted it to do that since the DAY I've owned it. Now it's a lean, mean, gaming/VCD/MP3/Internet gaming machine, and it's small and has a VGA output. Plus, having a Dreamcast in the livingroom and sharing a monitor with my PC means I can watch on either one - nice if the PC's tied up.........

P.S. - Considering the VCD playback quality I've seen on most DVD players, I'd even go as far to say that the Dreamcast with "Dreammovie" tops them, IMO.

Philbert · Post by **Philbert** » Tue Mar 26, 2002 12:17 am

Haha one post mentioned seeing Resident Evil for free, then another post had this address, http://www.playthegames.com/, where ohn the main page they're selling a modded Gamecube which includes a free copy of the Resident Evil movie.

tmpsth · Post by **tmpsth** » Tue Mar 26, 2002 1:18 am

SVCD has Mpeg2 for video, there is no way you can run that on Dreamcast.

tmpsth · Post by **tmpsth** » Tue Mar 26, 2002 1:19 am

Lord of the rings 4CD set is in SVCD. not VCD

Mr._Chips · Post by **Mr._Chips** » Tue Mar 26, 2002 1:21 am

I see what you man Sphere79, having videoCD for the dreamcast would be great. As for me now, I use the DVD player just because it supports the ReWriteable and does not need any extra software. So until a free fullspeed VCD player is released for the dreamcast, the apex will be my choice.

Quall · Post by **Quall** » Tue Mar 26, 2002 4:51 pm

Is LotR out on DVD yet? Or is it a bootleg?

I've also seen Resident Evil in the theaters, but also at home...

Quall · Post by **Quall** » Tue Mar 26, 2002 4:56 pm

Haha one post mentioned seeing Resident Evil for free, then another post had this address, http://www.playthegames.com/, where ohn the main page they're selling a modded Gamecube which includes a free copy of the Resident Evil movie.

They probably mean the game RE, but thats a pretty HUGE mistake.

Lt Koopa · Post by **Lt Koopa** » Wed Mar 27, 2002 12:08 pm

Hehe... perhaps it's a huge mistake, but then again, they are probably giving you a Resident Evil VCD to test out the GC's mpeg1 capabilities- ...with 4 sets of embedded asian subtitiles.

VCD?

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Re: that's because

There IS an awesome DC VCD player...... it just isn't free.

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Don't get confused Lord of the Ring 4CD movie set is in SVCD