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Windows Media Audio
Is this actually legal to use in a DC homebrew movie player?
I remember asking the guys at Project Mayo if DC-DivX would ever support WMA and they basically laughed, saying "not a chance" as it would be illegal. I believe there was a recent post there to the same effect.
I remember asking the guys at Project Mayo if DC-DivX would ever support WMA and they basically laughed, saying "not a chance" as it would be illegal. I believe there was a recent post there to the same effect.
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GypPlay managed to use copyrighted Microsoft stuff without anybody batting an eyelid, but WMA audio support would probably be too hard to impliment. You'd be better off with the open-source OGG format - but then didn't you say you couldn't convert WMA to anything else?
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It has that annoying DRM stuff embedded in it. It's possible to bypass, of course. I've seen guides on the 'net about converting WMA to other formats, like MP3 and OGG, amongst others. But it'll sound worse because it's converting from one lossy compression format to another.
WMA is, in my opinion, vastly inferior to other formats like OGG Vorbis, or even MP3. It just sounds hollow and empty. It sounds like it strips virtually all the harmonics, even the audiable ones, and it doesn't really compress any better than MP3, and certainly doesn't compress any better than Vorbis does.
WMA is, in my opinion, vastly inferior to other formats like OGG Vorbis, or even MP3. It just sounds hollow and empty. It sounds like it strips virtually all the harmonics, even the audiable ones, and it doesn't really compress any better than MP3, and certainly doesn't compress any better than Vorbis does.
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Oh, I wouldn't say that - I downloaded some Squaresoft music remixes by The Black Mages in WMAv8/9 96kbps and it sounded just as good as the 192kbps VBR MP3s. Maybe the corporate encoder with 2-pass VBR is better, though.BlackAura wrote:WMA is, in my opinion, vastly inferior to other formats like OGG Vorbis, or even MP3. It just sounds hollow and empty. It sounds like it strips virtually all the harmonics, even the audiable ones, and it doesn't really compress any better than MP3, and certainly doesn't compress any better than Vorbis does.
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Possibly. I've never listened to any professionally encoded WMA stuff, only encoding tests that I've done with the encoder that comes with Windows. And it's not that impressive, really.
That was comparing the same songs encoded with Media Player 8 (WMA), LAME (MP3), and the official Vorbis encoder (OGG). And WMA pretty much lost every time, in my opinion. Then again, MP3s aren't that good either. They sound kinda hollow and empty too, just not as much as WMA does.
That was comparing the same songs encoded with Media Player 8 (WMA), LAME (MP3), and the official Vorbis encoder (OGG). And WMA pretty much lost every time, in my opinion. Then again, MP3s aren't that good either. They sound kinda hollow and empty too, just not as much as WMA does.
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I agree. Windows media sounds like crap compared to .ogg, and at best sounds like a badly encoded mp3. You have to get a high bitrate for a decent sound.
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BUt WMA does have support for 5.1 surround sound, which no other audio format (besides MP2) supports. I imagine it would be quite handy for DVD-rips played through the XBMP, if only as a slightly better-sounding alternative to AC3.
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/me suddenly looks up with bright look on his face, screams "MP2 SUPPORTS 5.1? I LOVE MP2! OMGWTFPGP"az_bont wrote:5.1 surround sound, which no other audio format (besides MP2) supports.
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Re: MP2
Yes - and in Europe at least, MP2 is the official surround sound format for DVDs, even if it's never used. It is thereotically (sp?) possible to have up to 7.1 channels of audio, and applications already exist that allow 5.1 channels. I had a SVCD copy of LOTR2 that had 5.1 sound spanning 4 discs - very nice .dbloom wrote:/me suddenly looks up with bright look on his face, screams "MP2 SUPPORTS 5.1? I LOVE MP2! OMGWTFPGP"az_bont wrote:5.1 surround sound, which no other audio format (besides MP2) supports.
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Just jumping in to mention that AAC (Advanced Audio Coding) supports 5.1 surround (it IS made by Dolby). Also, in my personal tests, it sounds better than WMA and the same as OGG.az_bont wrote:BUt WMA does have support for 5.1 surround sound, which no other audio format (besides MP2) supports. I imagine it would be quite handy for DVD-rips played through the XBMP, if only as a slightly better-sounding alternative to AC3.
It's also a standard, as opposed to a MS corporate secret.
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PATENTS SUCK!
But it's a standard with patents, and a standard with patents is worse than no standard at all.PiratePete wrote:It's also a standard, as opposed to a MS corporate secret.
Use MP2 if you need surround sound...it's the 'morally best' format, and has pretty kickin' quality at high bitrates, too.