Is there any way of running saturn games on a dreamcast?

Ultima Wepon · Post by **Ultima Wepon** » Sat Dec 22, 2001 9:15 pm

apart from throwing the DC away and buying a atrun of ccorse

Polymira · Post by **Polymira** » Sat Dec 22, 2001 9:42 pm

sorry bro, but the answer is no.

Tails Prower · Post by **Tails Prower** » Sat Dec 22, 2001 9:46 pm

youd better go buy a saturn..

DeGamer1 · Post by **DeGamer1** » Sat Dec 22, 2001 9:58 pm

Ness Shady wrote: youd better go buy a saturn..

Yeah they are very cheap now. Not to mention a huge load of great games that are on the system. Your best bet would be Ebay.

biohazard · Post by **biohazard** » Sun Dec 23, 2001 1:50 am

Ultima Wepon wrote: apart from throwing the DC away and buying a atrun of ccorse

Yes, well it looks like you better go buy a "atrun" then.

DukeofURL · Post by **DukeofURL** » Sun Dec 23, 2001 10:45 am

Actually there is, you have to buy a copy of NiGHTS revolution, then put it in and "bam" its wiped, then you can put a downloaded saturn game on it and it will load on the DC by swapping with the Utopia boot disc. :)

-what a strange message you posted

BlackAura · Post by **BlackAura** » Sun Jan 06, 2002 9:54 am

Firstly, to DukeOfURL: What are you talking about?

Secondly, weren't there some saturn EMUs around somewhere for the DC? The DC cound probably run Saturn code natively (same CPU family) so an emu wouldn;t have to do much, would it?

DukeofURL · Post by **DukeofURL** » Sun Jan 06, 2002 10:53 am

I was making a reference to a very crazy post that ultimawepon posted regarding being able to wipe gdroms clean, then burn to it and do a trick with the utopia boot disc that would let you run it. -see -gd cdrom drive-(topic name) for the actual post.

Also, this has come up before about Saturn emus on DC and how it might be easy. Apparently it is not. Even though they are the same cpu family, that does not mean that it can run natively on the DC. Also concerning that the saturn had multiple processors, I think it would be a bit much for the DC to handle.

MidnightObsidian · Post by **MidnightObsidian** » Sun Jan 06, 2002 2:10 pm

I think that a Saturn Emulator would be a pretty hard thing to do, not because of the different CPU (I don't know for sure, but I doubt that being in the same family makes for the same high-level instructions), but because there were two of them. This was a hell of an obstacle for developers (one of the main reasons that the Saturn didn't have too many games made for it before it "died"), because there had to be a LOT of extra coding put in to deal with the synchronous multiple processing.

Now, if there was a way to get around this, I would guess that it wouldn't be TOO big of a deal to emulate it. For one, I'd LOVE to see a Saturn emulator. Nights is one of the best games ever, as far as I'm concerned.

BTW, what's this about Night's Revolution? Was there a Nights for the Dreamcast?? >= )???

sixteen-bit · Post by **sixteen-bit** » Sun Jan 06, 2002 4:47 pm

One of the dreamcast technical sites states:
"Software written for the previous generations of the SH series processors,
which are the SH-1, SH-2 and the SH-3, will be able to run on the SH-4."

See URL http://www.segatech.com/technical/cpu/index.html and look under the "SH-4 (SH7750-type) Block Diagram" heading.

I know this information insn't really very useful as having our DC's SH-4 emulate only one of the SH-2s in the Saturn isn't really going to be helpful. It's still interesting to read though.[/i]

MidnightObsidian · Post by **MidnightObsidian** » Sun Jan 06, 2002 6:43 pm

Unfortunately, there's more to emulation than just the core CPU(s).

...Unfortunately.

(Thanks for the URL, 16-Bit Miles)

NiGHTSFTP · Post by **NiGHTSFTP** » Sun Jan 06, 2002 9:10 pm

Hmm, AFAIK... many programmers said "f?ck this, im gonna just use one f?cking processor"

So many games only require the Master SH2 to run, and fewer others use the Slave SH2.

So if someone could find a way to just hand off the instructions for the master SH2, there would not be any big deal. And that would lead to possibly emulating the 2nd SH2 partially.

Then there's handing off all the other instructions, video, audio

When the f?ck is satourne gonna go open source god dammit!

MidnightObsidian · Post by **MidnightObsidian** » Sun Jan 06, 2002 9:28 pm

Do most consoles really go open-source after a while, or were you just being sarchastic? I was under the impression that most emulators used software to leech the instruction sets and stuff, but I'd love to find out that I'm wrong.

And if so, where can I get Virtual Boy codes?

NiGHTSFTP · Post by **NiGHTSFTP** » Tue Jan 08, 2002 9:49 pm

actually, satourne is a Saturn Emulator.. not teh saturn, no sarcasm

MidnightObsidian · Post by **MidnightObsidian** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 12:47 am

Oh... heh... ::hits self in head with large mallet::

I've never heard of Satourne before so I figured that you had just misspelled Saturn or hit the wrong keys.

Sometimes I swear I should just be put to sleep like a dog.