Help me out guys..

punkrockdude · Post by **punkrockdude** » Sun Aug 18, 2002 7:45 pm

I'm going to be starting to learn how to program here real soon,
I'm gonna get some software what should I get:

Mircosoft C ++
Mircosoft Visual Basic
Mircosoft C
Mircosoft visual Studio ???

I was on mircosoft.com and was looking at the differn't programs and don't know which one to get?

I have a chance to get mircosoft C ++. Should I get it??
I don't have much programing knowledge, I've only worked in python.

Help

LAter
PRD

toastman · Post by **toastman** » Sun Aug 18, 2002 8:33 pm

Warez is bad.
Get djgpp at http://www.delorie.com

punkrockdude · Post by **punkrockdude** » Sun Aug 18, 2002 8:44 pm

WHO SAID I WAS GETTTING A WAREZ COPY????

i DIDIN'T SAY THAT??

dude I plain to pay for my copy of whatever I get!!!

Later
PRD

toastman · Post by **toastman** » Sun Aug 18, 2002 8:50 pm

The MS Visual compilers carry a hefty price tag.
Still get djgpp first as you will want to learn "pure" C++ without all the crap you have to go through for Windows programming.

punkrockdude · Post by **punkrockdude** » Sun Aug 18, 2002 8:52 pm

Sorry I got so rude in the last post, I just know when somebody says
the no no word "Warez" the post always gets locked.
I'm just wondering what program to get...
I'm sorry If you thought I was getting a Warez copy..
Like I Said: I'm paying for the program I get!

Later
PRD

HyperG · Post by **HyperG** » Sun Aug 18, 2002 9:20 pm

Just get a free compiler. http://www.cygwin.com . Mostly used by windows users, who like developing on the Dreamcast.

punkrockdude · Post by **punkrockdude** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 12:29 am

I got a free program...python...but I want a good up to date
program..That's well known and that's gonna be real good and gonna be ez to learn...Could some one please tell me if I need to get MS Basic
Mircosoft C ++ or what mircosoft program I should get please...

Thanx Guys

Later
PRD

toastman · Post by **toastman** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 9:31 am

For the third time get djgpp at http://www.delorie.com
It's a free 32 bit C/C++ compiler for DOS great for making little programs and learning how to program.
If you've ever used one of Borland's old IDEs for DOS you will infinitely familiar with RHIDE.

You don't need a Microsoft product.

atf487 · Post by **atf487** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 11:14 am

djgpp also comes with a good graphics library, in allegro. I think, anyway.

punkrockdude · Post by **punkrockdude** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 11:23 am

Thanx guys...

I was just told by a programmer to get Microsoft basic or C++.
He said it was really ez and it was a cool program to learn in.

I might check out djgp, but I don't want anything confusing....
I used python for a while and it got real confusing....
I know that in the schools they use Microsoft basic or C ++..

Thanx Again
PRD

punkrockdude · Post by **punkrockdude** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 1:45 pm

just one more thing please...

I don't really know anything about programming..

"If" I were to get Mircosoft Visual Basic or
Mircosoft C ++ which one should I get?

I don't know anthing about how to program?

Is basic for people who are starting out
and is C ++ for people who know what their doing??

I don't want to get C ++ if it's gonna be about stuff I don't know??

But if Basic and C ++ and the same type of program, just ones better then the other then I'll know what to get.

Please help me with this question and then the topic can be closed.

Later
PRD

clessoulis · Post by **clessoulis** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 7:34 pm

Personally I'd get Visual Studio.

punkrockdude · Post by **punkrockdude** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 8:03 pm

isn't studio more for like java... or something..

I don't know that might be kind of cool..java..

I need to make up mind

Thanx
PRD

clessoulis · Post by **clessoulis** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 8:35 pm

Studio should include visual basic, something for java and visual C++.

BTW dont send me any more pm's PRD because kron has disabled them again. I swear I'm getting tired of these people cracking down on me for no preticaul reason beside having no life and hobbies.

Just AIM me its clessoulis.

EvilSporkMan · Post by **EvilSporkMan** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 9:11 pm

Visual Basic is mroe like dumbed down C++ than BASIC imo...It's very easy to make Windows proggies in it as compared to doing them in C++ (at least I don't know how to make 'em in C++...)

404NotFound · Post by **404NotFound** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 9:21 pm

clessoulis wrote:Studio should include visual basic, something for java and visual C++.

BTW dont send me any more pm's PRD because kron has disabled them again. I swear I'm getting tired of these people cracking down on me for no preticaul reason beside having no life and hobbies.

Just AIM me its clessoulis.

ahem, you send warez thru PM u get it taken away, that simple.

As for the software, Visual C++ is only good for WinCE dev i think, other than that i'd go with Borland or the like... also, shop at college bookstores, they have programming stuff really cheap, i got VB for 100 bucks because they consitered me being in high school a "student."

MS is really loose in the student discount things.

punkrockdude · Post by **punkrockdude** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 11:09 pm

A couple days ago I wrote a post to ask a simple question,
My question hasn't been answered yet.. Everyone's been telling me where
I can get a free programming program...but that doesn't answer my question.

here's my Question

I'm going to be starting to learn how to program here real soon,
I'm gonna get some software what should I get:

Mircosoft C ++
Mircosoft Visual Basic
Mircosoft C
Mircosoft visual Studio ???

I was on mircosoft.com and was looking at the differn't programs and don't know which one to get?

I don't have much programing knowledge, I've only worked in python.

Help

LAter
PRD

404NotFound · Post by **404NotFound** » Tue Aug 20, 2002 12:23 am

punkrockdude wrote:A couple days ago I wrote a post to ask a simple question,
My question hasn't been answered yet.. Everyone's been telling me where
I can get a free programming program...but that doesn't answer my question.

here's my Question

I'm going to be starting to learn how to program here real soon,
I'm gonna get some software what should I get:

Mircosoft C ++
Mircosoft Visual Basic
Mircosoft C
Mircosoft visual Studio ???

I was on mircosoft.com and was looking at the differn't programs and don't know which one to get?

I don't have much programing knowledge, I've only worked in python.

Help

LAter
PRD

i already answered you, get borland if u want, but of those 4 get visual studio because it has VB, VC++, VJ++, fox pro, and interdev....

Cless, STOP TELLING PEEPS TO GET WAREZ FROM YOU! do u want half a star??!!?

Visual Studio is avalable form college bookstores for like 250 bucks.

Soilwork · Post by **Soilwork** » Tue Aug 20, 2002 8:34 am

I agreee with 404NotFound, get a Borland compiler (Borland C++) instead of a microsoft compiler.
If you do want a Microsoft product, just get Visual C++, because Visual Studio, which includes VC++, VBasic, ... is more expensive (logically).
If you wanna create programs with a GUI under Windows, then choose Borland C++ Builder, very easy to use. It's a pain in the ar.se to create user interfaces with Visual C++

Sanchez · Post by **Sanchez** » Tue Aug 20, 2002 9:15 am

Ok, enough of this before it turns into a flame war.

TOPIC CLOSED