Email services on the Dreamcast

emptythought · Post by **emptythought** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:51 pm

Ok, I was searching for some new ISPs that I could stick on my site, but I came up with nothing. I came across Seglda's homepage and found a link to HotPOP.

It will work on the Dreamcast, but you need to have an ISP that will work with SMTP servers. The current list on my site doesn't have any free ISPs that will work with SMTP servers, but I do know of a free ISP that will work on the PC, but it will not work on the Dreamcast because the password is too long.

It would be cool to get a list of free POP/SMTP email services that people can use on the Dreamcast and PC. I'm gonna try and find some ISPs that will work, but in the meantime, if links to email services could be provided, that would be cool.

NightStalker · Post by **NightStalker** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:09 am

here are just a few links with tons of free pop/smtp based email services the best probably being softhome and believe it or not the russian one...

http://www.softhome.net/

http://freemailguide.com/free_pop3_email.html

http://directory.google.com/Top/Compute ... rectories/

http://www.freebyte.com/email/#popbased

hope these are of use.

NightStalker · Post by **NightStalker** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:10 am

oops forgot the russian email service..

http://www.emailaddresses.com/email_russian.htm

emptythought · Post by **emptythought** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:45 pm

That's great man, thanks a bunch.

LordNikon · Post by **LordNikon** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:42 am

Ok here is the deal. Most ISP's require that you use their SMTP server for outgoing email. If you pay for a dialup service then you should have no problem sending and recieving email over pop3. For instance if you have earthlink dialup, you would use smtp.earthlink.net for your smtp server, then the pop3 server for whatever email service your using.

The problem is, from what I understand none of the free isps available so far have the SMTP server available for those accounts.The MSN one's might. Check msn.com for the available smtp server for that ISP.

As of yet the ONLY way I have found to send email over pop3 using a free isp, is to set up a free juno account for 10 hours a month.
Go to fackue's Dreamcast Help - http://consolevision.com/members/fackue/
then encode the name and pass. Put in this ISP information, then check or send your email. This account will only work on the dreamcast for about 3 minutes or so before it disconnects you.

Possibly could use DreamPassport's multiple ISP configuration to set up a convenient method to use the side juno account, otherwise you'll be juggling your ISP information around anytime you want to send an email.

Once again if you pay for a dialup isp service, an smtp server should be available to you through your ISP.

SMTP servers are regulated because of spam. If there were open SMTP servers anyone could use then spammers could abuse them.

speud · Post by **speud** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:59 am

LordNikon wrote:Check msn.com for the available smtp server for that ISP.

if there was a smtp server for msn do you think people would waste their time making tools to access your msn mailbox without msie5+ and outlook?

LordNikon wrote:As of yet the ONLY way I have found to send email over pop3 using a free isp, is to set up a free juno account for 10 hours a month.

pop cant send anything einstein

LordNikon wrote:SMTP servers are regulated because of spam. If there were open SMTP servers anyone could use then spammers could abuse them.

i wonder who gave you this stupid theory but you should probably make it a sticky in your stupid forum

there are actually free smtp server thats dont require you use any isp to use them.
the smtp servers that require you to use a specific isp just do that to make you subscribe to the isp, something similar to the toy you find in your kellogs

EDIT: nice sign night, the fact you cant even write my nick correctly, which is only 5 letters long, show how much your superior to me...

NightStalker · Post by **NightStalker** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:05 am

LordNikon · Post by **LordNikon** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:35 am

speud wrote:i wonder who gave you this stupid theory but you should probably make it a sticky in your stupid forum
there are actually free smtp server thats dont require you use any isp to use them.
the smtp servers that require you to use a specific isp just do that to make you subscribe to the isp, something similar to the toy you find in your kellogs

Port 25 is the standard port used by smtp. Many ISPs have started to block that port outside of their own system as an anti-spam precaution.

The following ISP's(as well as many others) block port 25, forcing you to use their SMTP server. It is impossible under these and many many other ISP's to use an alternate smtp server. (Whatever mail server your trying to access would have to use a port other than 25 in order for you to access it and send out an email. Most free pop3 email services only offer on port 25. So in all reality you would need your own webserver for this running smtp on anything but port 25.)

Earthlink - mail.earthlink.net
Mindspring - smtp.mindspring.com
Sympatico.ca - smtp1.sympatico.ca
Charter - smtp.charter.net
Verizon - smtp.verizon.net
MSN - smtp.email.msn.com
NetZero - smtp.netzero.net
Road Runner - smtp-server.bham.rr.com
AT&T - smtp1.attglobal.net
Prodigy - smtp.prodigy.net

speud do some research next time, your making it far too easy for me to make you look like an idiot.

speud · Post by **speud** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:41 am

i dont think i look like an idiot, youre the one who said there was NO free smtp server that doesnt require you use a specific isp, then said A LOT did that but not all.
i use a totally free smtp on dc, its not connected to any isp, it only works in france tho, but there are quite a lot of free smtp servers available on the web.
its your time to make a search before posting wrong infos here

LordNikon · Post by **LordNikon** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:48 am

speud wrote:youre the one who said there was NO free smtp server that doesnt require you use a specific isp

Where? Where did I say this? Please Re-read...Nowhere in this thread did I say this.

speud wrote:i dont think i look like an idiot

Oh damn....sorry..just made you look like an idiot. Again.

NightStalker · Post by **NightStalker** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:48 am

but there are quite a lot of free smtp servers available on the web.

well seeing as this thread is about finding ones that will work with the free isps...and NOT this argument you started...how about HELPING instead of ARGUING..and share these supposed free smtp servers that are ALL OVER THE WEB you refer to...

impetus · Post by **impetus** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:51 am

No flaming, kiddos. You guys can discuss this stuf without torching each other's behinds. Nightstalker, this means your sig as well.

speud · Post by **speud** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:54 am

If there were open SMTP servers anyone could use then spammers could abuse them.

basically that means "there are no free smtp anymore because of the potential spamming" to me

night: they made a site called google, youll love it

NightStalker · Post by **NightStalker** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:55 am

basically that means "there are no free smtp anymore because of the potential spamming" to me

night: they made a site called google, youll love it

DUDE! this is JUST WHAT NIKON WA SAYING TO YOU..you have done a 360!!!

LordNikon · Post by **LordNikon** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:06 am

speud wrote:
If there were open SMTP servers anyone could use then spammers could abuse them.
basically that means "there are no free smtp anymore because of the potential spamming" to me

Ok lets go through my quote step by step:
Part1: "If there were open SMTP servers..."
This part here means...If there was a freely accessable smtp server
Part2: "...anyone could use..."
This part here referrs to the general public, an average person on the internet, so anyone
Part3: ...then spammers could abuse them.
This part is saying a spammer could abuse the smtp server.

So in the end lets review....
My quote referrs to reasons why an ISP would want to block outside use of port 25 for smtp.

speud said "there are no free smtp anymore"
Sorry, your translation of my quote is incorrect.

speud · Post by **speud** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:10 am

maybe my other quotes were wrong too so?

emptythought · Post by **emptythought** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:56 pm

Thanks for the info LordNikon, I appreciate it.

I'm gonna try these email accounts on my DC, I was told you can enter this PeoplePC ISP (free ISP) in your DC through Unreal Tournament (to bypass not being able to type in the whole password), so I'm gonna try that out and test these email accounts I've made.

If all works good, I'll let ya know what I did.

EDIT: Sh*t. The password is still too long - Unreal Tournament supports up to 30 characters in the password, and the PeoplePC password is 32. I wonder if it's possible to have unlimited characters for both username and password fields? Someone wanna throw a cheap program together that could edit the ISP settings for either PlanetWeb or DreamKey/DreamPassport?

NightStalker · Post by **NightStalker** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 9:07 pm

i will look at planetweb and dreampassport binary and see if i can add atleast another 3 to 4 characters to the username/password field lengths for ya.

speud · Post by **speud** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 11:28 pm

fackue wrote:Someone wanna throw a cheap program together that could edit the ISP settings for either PlanetWeb or DreamKey/DreamPassport?

this app already exist, the Flash Internet Settings Adjuster was made by marcus comstedt, here is a link from boob: http://boob.co.uk/files/fisa.tar.gz
also maybe the max length you can input corresponds to the max length in the flash structure, if so it wont help

emptythought · Post by **emptythought** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 12:20 am

Thanks speud, although that tool only supports 16 characters in the password field.

speud wrote:also maybe the max length you can input corresponds to the max length in the flash structure, if so it wont help

I was thinking the same, but I hope this isn't the case. Never know untill you try it, if someone wants to do a favor and make an app that has an unlimited password length field, I'm willing to try it. I'd try making it, but I can't program for DC.