Prominent atheist - "Intelligent" design possible to study.
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Prominent atheist - "Intelligent" design possible to study.
1.) Richard Dawkins says in an interview with Ben Stein that he thinks it possible that a civilisation from somewhere in the universe seeded life onto planet earth.
2.) That biochemistry and molecular biology may show the signature of design by that higher intelligence.
Youtube video interview
I'd note that he does not say it is a good theory, or that it is supported, simply that it may be and that it could be studied. As opposed to an unknowable, untestable, supernatural creator.
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2.) That biochemistry and molecular biology may show the signature of design by that higher intelligence.
Youtube video interview
I'd note that he does not say it is a good theory, or that it is supported, simply that it may be and that it could be studied. As opposed to an unknowable, untestable, supernatural creator.
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Re: Prominent atheist - "Intelligent" design possible to study.
Yeah... Ben Stein is going to be entirely neutral, isn't going to ask leading questions, and isn't going to creatively edit the interview.
(Watches interview).
Yep, he's still an ass. Typical interview technique if you want to appear to interview someone, but don't want to let them get a word in edgeways.
Also... everything you quoted there was purely speculative. It is, perhaps, possible that something seeded life on Earth. We don't have any evidence against it (unlike the typical ID nonsense, or the creation myths of most religions), but we don't have any evidence for it either. Maybe we could find some, maybe not.
Certainly anything capable of actually doing this would be incredibly advanced, probably way beyond our comprehension. I suppose you could call this a god - the English language lacks any better word for such a thing. Still, it can't possibly be anything supernatural since, by definition, anything supernatural can not exist. If it did exist, then it must have come about through some natural process.
None of which would solve the major problem with this theory. Where the hell did this creator come from? Ultimately, everything that exists in the universe must have come about through some natural process. God-like aliens don't just pop into existence. The universe just doesn't work like that.
This is something Dawkins tried to address, but Stein wouldn't let him, since it would completely ruin his argument.
On that note... This is a clip from Expelled, isn't it?
(Watches interview).
Yep, he's still an ass. Typical interview technique if you want to appear to interview someone, but don't want to let them get a word in edgeways.
Also... everything you quoted there was purely speculative. It is, perhaps, possible that something seeded life on Earth. We don't have any evidence against it (unlike the typical ID nonsense, or the creation myths of most religions), but we don't have any evidence for it either. Maybe we could find some, maybe not.
Certainly anything capable of actually doing this would be incredibly advanced, probably way beyond our comprehension. I suppose you could call this a god - the English language lacks any better word for such a thing. Still, it can't possibly be anything supernatural since, by definition, anything supernatural can not exist. If it did exist, then it must have come about through some natural process.
None of which would solve the major problem with this theory. Where the hell did this creator come from? Ultimately, everything that exists in the universe must have come about through some natural process. God-like aliens don't just pop into existence. The universe just doesn't work like that.
This is something Dawkins tried to address, but Stein wouldn't let him, since it would completely ruin his argument.
On that note... This is a clip from Expelled, isn't it?
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Re: Prominent atheist - "Intelligent" design possible to study.
Yes, it is.BlackAura wrote:
On that note... This is a clip from Expelled, isn't it?
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Re: Prominent atheist - "Intelligent" design possible to study.
I hate when people mix up symbols and metaphors that serve people's social, psychological, and cosmological impulses with arguable, testable scientific evidence and theories.
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Re: Prominent atheist - "Intelligent" design possible to study.
jaredfogle wrote:I hate when people mix up symbols and metaphors that serve people's social, psychological, and cosmological impulses with arguable, testable scientific evidence and theories.
Amen. It's especially annoying in the Art world, too.
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Re: Prominent atheist - "Intelligent" design possible to study.
Actually, he answered Ben Stein's question "How do you think that Intelligent Design would happen if were true?" (paraphrasing here naturally).U-said-it wrote:1.) Richard Dawkins says in an interview with Ben Stein that he thinks it possible that a civilisation from somewhere in the universe seeded life onto planet earth.
2.) That biochemistry and molecular biology may show the signature of design by that higher intelligence.
Youtube video interview
I'd note that he does not say it is a good theory, or that it is supported, simply that it may be and that it could be studied. As opposed to an unknowable, untestable, supernatural creator.
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Re: Prominent atheist - "Intelligent" design possible to study.
The presentation of that interview, bad as it is, is downright respectful compared to this bullshit.
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Re: Prominent atheist - "Intelligent" design possible to study.
I guess no one in here is gonna win Ben Stein's money.
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Re: Prominent atheist - "Intelligent" design possible to study.
I thought Jimmy Kimmel already did that.Eviltaco64X wrote:I guess no one in here is gonna win Ben Stein's money.