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Re: NFL Playoffs

Post by |darc| » Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:29 pm

toastman wrote:From what I've read about the "taping" scandal.

Big deal.

Like you couldn't hire someone to transcribe those motions instead of video taping. Plus, most teams only play each other once. Sometimes twice depending if they are in the same division or two playoff bound teams meet in the regular season. Rarely three.

I honestly don't see the advantage of knowing those signals. Plus, it's not like the Patriots haven't caught people watching them, they just didn't find out who.
The taping scandal doesn't stop at recording signals, though. There are serious allegations that the Patriots recorded their Super Bowl opponents' walkthroughs as well. These rumors are all magnified by how shady the NFL is being right now concerning the evidence.

Honestly, I'm just glad the Patriots have been brought back to Earth. Several teams have come really close to what they've accomplished (72 Dolphins (16-0), 85 Bears (18-1), 98 Vikings (17-2), 04 Pittsburgh Steelers (16-2), etc.) The Patriots are a great team*, and they have been for years. But their record this year is only one or two games above what several other teams have done many times in years past. If their taping work made the difference in just one game win, they are just another great team, not the greatest team of all time like people were claiming before the Superbowl. I don't know the strength of those teams' schedules, but the Pats this year had four nearly-unloseable games (Jets and Dolphins twice).
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Post by mrandyk » Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:24 am

The Pats 4 games against the Dolphins and Jets coupled with their near loses to the Eagles, Colts, Ravens, and Giants show they are clearly not the greatest ever. The greatest team ever dominates bad teams like the Eagles and Ravens, the Ravens lost to the Dolphins! How do you almost lose to that?

And if this video that came out of the Rams before they played the Pats comes out to be true, then a big ol * can be placed on all of their championships. Man I hate this team.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Post by Covar » Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:14 am

|darc| wrote:
toastman wrote:From what I've read about the "taping" scandal.

Big deal.

Like you couldn't hire someone to transcribe those motions instead of video taping. Plus, most teams only play each other once. Sometimes twice depending if they are in the same division or two playoff bound teams meet in the regular season. Rarely three.

I honestly don't see the advantage of knowing those signals. Plus, it's not like the Patriots haven't caught people watching them, they just didn't find out who.
The taping scandal doesn't stop at recording signals, though. There are serious allegations that the Patriots recorded their Super Bowl opponents' walkthroughs as well. These rumors are all magnified by how shady the NFL is being right now concerning the evidence.

Honestly, I'm just glad the Patriots have been brought back to Earth. Several teams have come really close to what they've accomplished (72 Dolphins (16-0), 85 Bears (18-1), 98 Vikings (17-2), 04 Pittsburgh Steelers (16-2), etc.) The Patriots are a great team*, and they have been for years. But their record this year is only one or two games above what several other teams have done many times in years past. If their taping work made the difference in just one game win, they are just another great team, not the greatest team of all time like people were claiming before the Superbowl. I don't know the strength of those teams' schedules, but the Pats this year had four nearly-unloseable games (Jets and Dolphins twice).
you should make that six. the bills had a really shitty year. IMO its easy to have a good record when you're the one good team in the worst conference in the nfl.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Post by mariobro » Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:44 am

Speaking of the Bills, I remember John Madden once saying that, in his opinion, the 90s Bills were the best football team in history. It's almost impossible to get to 4 Super Bowls in a row. Sure they lost in all of them, but they were facing some pretty tough teams, that DIDN'T choke on the big game. That's what great teams do. They rape other great teams in regular season, and in playoffs. Given that, I don't thnk you can even compare the Patriots to the 90s Dallas Cowboys. Now THAT was an amazing offensive line.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Post by mrandyk » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:21 am

I feel real bad for the people on those 4 teams. Pure torture to make it to the big game and blow it every time. Didnt they lose by like 40 to the Cowboys in their 4th one?
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Post by toastman » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:19 am

|darc| wrote:
toastman wrote:From what I've read about the "taping" scandal.

Big deal.

Like you couldn't hire someone to transcribe those motions instead of video taping. Plus, most teams only play each other once. Sometimes twice depending if they are in the same division or two playoff bound teams meet in the regular season. Rarely three.

I honestly don't see the advantage of knowing those signals. Plus, it's not like the Patriots haven't caught people watching them, they just didn't find out who.
The taping scandal doesn't stop at recording signals, though. There are serious allegations that the Patriots recorded their Super Bowl opponents' walkthroughs as well. These rumors are all magnified by how shady the NFL is being right now concerning the evidence.

Honestly, I'm just glad the Patriots have been brought back to Earth. Several teams have come really close to what they've accomplished (72 Dolphins (16-0), 85 Bears (18-1), 98 Vikings (17-2), 04 Pittsburgh Steelers (16-2), etc.) The Patriots are a great team*, and they have been for years. But their record this year is only one or two games above what several other teams have done many times in years past. If their taping work made the difference in just one game win, they are just another great team, not the greatest team of all time like people were claiming before the Superbowl. I don't know the strength of those teams' schedules, but the Pats this year had four nearly-unloseable games (Jets and Dolphins twice).
I'm going to plea ignorance and ask what is a walkthrough? I've seen it mentioned several times, but never described.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Post by butters » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:53 am

toastman wrote:
|darc| wrote:
toastman wrote:From what I've read about the "taping" scandal.

Big deal.

Like you couldn't hire someone to transcribe those motions instead of video taping. Plus, most teams only play each other once. Sometimes twice depending if they are in the same division or two playoff bound teams meet in the regular season. Rarely three.

I honestly don't see the advantage of knowing those signals. Plus, it's not like the Patriots haven't caught people watching them, they just didn't find out who.
The taping scandal doesn't stop at recording signals, though. There are serious allegations that the Patriots recorded their Super Bowl opponents' walkthroughs as well. These rumors are all magnified by how shady the NFL is being right now concerning the evidence.

Honestly, I'm just glad the Patriots have been brought back to Earth. Several teams have come really close to what they've accomplished (72 Dolphins (16-0), 85 Bears (18-1), 98 Vikings (17-2), 04 Pittsburgh Steelers (16-2), etc.) The Patriots are a great team*, and they have been for years. But their record this year is only one or two games above what several other teams have done many times in years past. If their taping work made the difference in just one game win, they are just another great team, not the greatest team of all time like people were claiming before the Superbowl. I don't know the strength of those teams' schedules, but the Pats this year had four nearly-unloseable games (Jets and Dolphins twice).
I'm going to plea ignorance and ask what is a walkthrough? I've seen it mentioned several times, but never described.
It's when you walk through or go about quarter speed through the plays in practice rather than going full speed. It helps to learn where to go, who to block, etc. It lets the coaches stop all the action anytime and go over what someone should have done. An example before a game would be having the defense lined up like the opponent's would and the coaches going over the situations that might arise.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Post by toastman » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:05 pm

butters wrote:
toastman wrote:
|darc| wrote:
toastman wrote:From what I've read about the "taping" scandal.

Big deal.

Like you couldn't hire someone to transcribe those motions instead of video taping. Plus, most teams only play each other once. Sometimes twice depending if they are in the same division or two playoff bound teams meet in the regular season. Rarely three.

I honestly don't see the advantage of knowing those signals. Plus, it's not like the Patriots haven't caught people watching them, they just didn't find out who.
The taping scandal doesn't stop at recording signals, though. There are serious allegations that the Patriots recorded their Super Bowl opponents' walkthroughs as well. These rumors are all magnified by how shady the NFL is being right now concerning the evidence.

Honestly, I'm just glad the Patriots have been brought back to Earth. Several teams have come really close to what they've accomplished (72 Dolphins (16-0), 85 Bears (18-1), 98 Vikings (17-2), 04 Pittsburgh Steelers (16-2), etc.) The Patriots are a great team*, and they have been for years. But their record this year is only one or two games above what several other teams have done many times in years past. If their taping work made the difference in just one game win, they are just another great team, not the greatest team of all time like people were claiming before the Superbowl. I don't know the strength of those teams' schedules, but the Pats this year had four nearly-unloseable games (Jets and Dolphins twice).
I'm going to plea ignorance and ask what is a walkthrough? I've seen it mentioned several times, but never described.
It's when you walk through or go about quarter speed through the plays in practice rather than going full speed. It helps to learn where to go, who to block, etc. It lets the coaches stop all the action anytime and go over what someone should have done. An example before a game would be having the defense lined up like the opponent's would and the coaches going over the situations that might arise.
Ok, that would be bad. I can see how that can be used by a team.
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