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Overdue movie fee

Post by DuffMan » Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:25 pm

So here is the story. I rented a movie from Hollywood Video, I move out of my house later that week and completely forget about returning the movie. I got letters in the mail, but I never got them because they were sent to the wrong house. The late fee is now at 50$. I return the movie thinking that they would stop sending letters and now the worst they would do is cancel my account so I can not rent movies from them anymore until the fee is paid. That was over a month ago they are still calling and send letters in the mail.

What can I do??? There is no way in hell I'm paying 50$ for the Pick of Destiny, I love the D but not for 50$.
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Re: Overdue movie fee

Post by APE » Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:34 pm

I'd tell them you turned it in and they're just trying to shaft you out of money, unless you've admitted to them you still have it in which case you argue that $50 is extortion.
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Re: Overdue movie fee

Post by butters » Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:43 pm

APE wrote:I'd tell them you turned it in and they're just trying to shaft you out of money, unless you've admitted to them you still have it in which case you argue that $50 is extortion.
Actually movie rental places pay several times more than you pay for movies for the license to rent them out.
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Re: Overdue movie fee

Post by APE » Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:01 pm

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APE wrote:I'd tell them you turned it in and they're just trying to shaft you out of money, unless you've admitted to them you still have it in which case you argue that $50 is extortion.
Actually movie rental places pay several times more than you pay for movies for the license to rent them out.
Well yeh but how many times have they pimped that movie out for $5 a pop in it's life time?
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Re: Overdue movie fee

Post by jaredfogle » Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:14 pm

This happened to me at Blockbuster once. They sent threatening letters about calling my credit agency. I returned to movie and they sent a letter that said they still were reporting the late fees but not the movie itself.

I'll be goddamned if I pay $50 in late fees.

So now I don't use Blockbuster anymore. I don't know my credit score, but my lease on my house and my bank account are both fine.

I wouldn't fret over it.
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Re: Overdue movie fee

Post by DuffMan » Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:27 pm

jaredfogle wrote:This happened to me at Blockbuster once. They sent threatening letters about calling my credit agency. I returned to movie and they sent a letter that said they still were reporting the late fees but not the movie itself.

I'll be goddamned if I pay $50 in late fees.

So now I don't use Blockbuster anymore. I don't know my credit score, but my lease on my house and my bank account are both fine.

I wouldn't fret over it.
Ya, they keep sending me letters saying that if I don't pay then they will it to the credit agency. Fuckers. $50!!!!!
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Re: Overdue movie fee

Post by arrowhead » Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:39 pm

Worst case is probably that they send it to collections, then instead of letters you will get phone calls.

What happened to "no late fees" at blockbuster?

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Re: Overdue movie fee

Post by JuddWack » Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:54 pm

There were several instances during my short time at blockbuster when I worked there where I actually found movies in obscure places, checked there check in status and noticed that people were being billed for overdue rates. Movies do get lost in stores. I would deny, deny, deny but mostly ignore.

Alternatively you could call or write the store manage and explain to them that you are a good customer and your whole moving situation. Give him 2 options and let him choose. Tell him you would gladly send the fee for one late day and mail the movie back to the store or you would pay the fee but Hollywood Video will loose your business. It is a simple click of a button at Blockbuster's to waive a late fee. At the store I worked at it was used frequently when people said they would take their business to Hollywood Video.
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Re: Overdue movie fee

Post by Egotistical EvilN » Sun Sep 09, 2007 4:01 pm

arrowhead wrote:What happened to "no late fees" at blockbuster?

Say you rent a 7 day rental. You actually get a 14 day rental. On day 15, your card is charged for the cost of the movie. Return it to the store, they return the cost, minus $2.00 restocking.

Unless they're a franchised store, then you're screwed.
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Re: Overdue movie fee

Post by DuffMan » Sun Sep 09, 2007 4:45 pm

Very stupid. The good thing about Hollywood, is that they do no require a credit card to get an account. Atleast they didn't when I got mine, probably about 10 years ago. So they can't charge me directly. Like Blockbuster.
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Re: Overdue movie fee

Post by Luriden » Sun Sep 09, 2007 4:53 pm

I work a cash register at a Hastings, which is basically a bigger version of Hollywood Video and Blockbuster. We run into this situation with customers everyday. Unless the policies are different, you should just try calling and speaking to the manager and telling them you returned it. They can check your account for the movie, and if they say it's still out, they're either lying or forgot to check it back in.

Either way, even if they cancel your account, if you go up there in person with the letter and tell them you returned it, they'll usually give in. And after a year of having the late fees, they'll delete it (or at least that's how Hastings works, you're not forced to pay late fees for anything over a year old no matter how big the charge is).

Video rental stores looooove their regular customers. Don't believe the threats, just go up there and bitch saying you want it fixed so you can rent more, and chances are they'll work with you, maybe even delete the late fee if you come up with a good excuse as to why it wasn't turned in (i.e. you turned it in and it got stolen or something).
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Re: Overdue movie fee

Post by Veggita2099 » Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:08 pm

I talked to a guy that ran a local video shop. This was several years ago (back when DVD's was just starting to get popular). Anyways he said it cost him $20 for DVD movies and $40 for VHS. OF course now he is out of business as with all the mom and pop video stores thanks to Blockbuster.

In any case $50 sounds ridiculous though, however you was in the wrong and they can charge whatever they want I suppose.
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Re: Overdue movie fee

Post by jaredfogle » Sun Sep 09, 2007 6:26 pm

Netflix everyone, it kicks ass.
Bittorrent is even better.
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Re: Overdue movie fee

Post by arrowhead » Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:12 pm

jaredfogle wrote:
Netflix everyone, it kicks ass.
Bittorrent is even better.
I guess, if your a 13 year old with no job, or an adult loser with no job that likes to steal.
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Re: Overdue movie fee

Post by Ex-Cyber » Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:34 pm

butters wrote:Actually movie rental places pay several times more than you pay for movies for the license to rent them out.
As far as I know, a license from the copyright holder is not required in order to rent movies in the United States (first sale doctrine). Of course, the rental stores may still enter into agreements with distributors for other reasons (e.g. guaranteed allocation, early access) that place other restrictions upon them than those arising from copyright law.
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Re: Overdue movie fee

Post by jaredfogle » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:23 am

arrowhead wrote:
jaredfogle wrote:
Netflix everyone, it kicks ass.
Bittorrent is even better.
I guess, if your a 13 year old with no job, or an adult loser with no job that likes to steal.
Yes, either of those could reap the network's benefits.

As can employed, artist-supporting individuals such as my self.

Also, you're. You're. You are.
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Re: Overdue movie fee

Post by Wagh » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:45 am

The video companies sell off your debt to them to a few collections companies. But because of kickbacks and such they don't really do anything other than send threatning letters. You're fine.
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Re: Overdue movie fee

Post by Calavera » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:00 pm

Veggita2099 wrote:OF course now he is out of business as with all the mom and pop video stores thanks to Blockbuster.
Nope, Mike and Ted's Excellent Video Adventures around here. Yes that's really what it is called. :mrgreen:
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Re: Overdue movie fee

Post by mrandyk » Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:21 pm

DuffMan wrote:Very stupid. The good thing about Hollywood, is that they do no require a credit card to get an account. Atleast they didn't when I got mine, probably about 10 years ago. So they can't charge me directly. Like Blockbuster.
I got an account at Hollywood video this summer, no credit card needed.
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Re: Overdue movie fee

Post by Lartrak » Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:59 am

As far as I know, a license from the copyright holder is not required in order to rent movies in the United States (first sale doctrine). Of course, the rental stores may still enter into agreements with distributors for other reasons (e.g. guaranteed allocation, early access) that place other restrictions upon them than those arising from copyright law.
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This is generally the case as far as I can tell. This is why mom and pop chains get rentals in later, as they refuse to pay the inflated prices.
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