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U.K. schoolgirl loses 'virginity ring' court battle

Post by Roofus » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:35 pm

A teenager whose teachers had stopped her wearing a “purity ring” at school to symbolize her commitment to virginity has lost a High Court fight against the ban.

Lydia Playfoot, 16, says her silver ring is an expression of her faith and had argued in court that it should be exempt from school regulations banning the wearing of jewelry.

“I am very disappointed by the decision this morning by the High Court not to allow me to wear my purity ring to school as an expression of my Christian faith not to have sex outside marriage,” Playfoot said in a statement Monday.

“I believe that the judge’s decision will mean that slowly, over time, people such as school governors, employers, political organizations and others will be allowed to stop Christians from publicly expressing and practicing their faith.”

Playfoot’s legal challenge was the latest in a series of disputes in British schools in recent years over the right of pupils to wear religious symbols or clothing, such as crucifixes and veils.

Last year, the Law Lords rejected Shabina Begum’s appeal for permission to wear a Muslim gown at her school in Luton. That case echoed a debate in France over the banning of Muslim headscarves in state schools.

Playfoot’s parents are key members of the British arm of the American chastity campaign group the Silver Ring Thing, a religious group which urges abstinence among young people.

Those who sign up wear a ring on the third finger of the left hand. It is inscribed with “Thess. 4:3-4,” a reference to a Biblical passage from Thessalonians which reads: “God wants you to be holy, so you should keep clear of all sexual sin.”

During the case, Playfoot’s lawyers argued that the ban by her school in Horsham, West Sussex, breached her human rights to “freedom of thought, conscience and religion” which are protected by the European Convention on Human Rights.

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Re: U.K. schoolgirl loses 'virginity ring' court battle

Post by AgentGreen » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:16 pm

Roofus wrote:A teenager whose teachers had stopped her wearing a “purity ring” at school to symbolize her commitment to virginity has lost a High Court fight against the ban.

Lydia Playfoot, 16, says her silver ring is an expression of her faith and had argued in court that it should be exempt from school regulations banning the wearing of jewelry.

“I am very disappointed by the decision this morning by the High Court not to allow me to wear my purity ring to school as an expression of my Christian faith not to have sex outside marriage,” Playfoot said in a statement Monday.

“I believe that the judge’s decision will mean that slowly, over time, people such as school governors, employers, political organizations and others will be allowed to stop Christians from publicly expressing and practicing their faith.”

Playfoot’s legal challenge was the latest in a series of disputes in British schools in recent years over the right of pupils to wear religious symbols or clothing, such as crucifixes and veils.

Last year, the Law Lords rejected Shabina Begum’s appeal for permission to wear a Muslim gown at her school in Luton. That case echoed a debate in France over the banning of Muslim headscarves in state schools.

Playfoot’s parents are key members of the British arm of the American chastity campaign group the Silver Ring Thing, a religious group which urges abstinence among young people.

Those who sign up wear a ring on the third finger of the left hand. It is inscribed with “Thess. 4:3-4,” a reference to a Biblical passage from Thessalonians which reads: “God wants you to be holy, so you should keep clear of all sexual sin.”

During the case, Playfoot’s lawyers argued that the ban by her school in Horsham, West Sussex, breached her human rights to “freedom of thought, conscience and religion” which are protected by the European Convention on Human Rights.

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Post by Sir Savant » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:42 pm

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Roofus wrote:A teenager whose teachers had stopped her wearing a “purity ring” at school to symbolize her commitment to virginity has lost a High Court fight against the ban.

Lydia Playfoot, 16, says her silver ring is an expression of her faith and had argued in court that it should be exempt from school regulations banning the wearing of jewelry.

“I am very disappointed by the decision this morning by the High Court not to allow me to wear my purity ring to school as an expression of my Christian faith not to have sex outside marriage,” Playfoot said in a statement Monday.

“I believe that the judge’s decision will mean that slowly, over time, people such as school governors, employers, political organizations and others will be allowed to stop Christians from publicly expressing and practicing their faith.”

Playfoot’s legal challenge was the latest in a series of disputes in British schools in recent years over the right of pupils to wear religious symbols or clothing, such as crucifixes and veils.

Last year, the Law Lords rejected Shabina Begum’s appeal for permission to wear a Muslim gown at her school in Luton. That case echoed a debate in France over the banning of Muslim headscarves in state schools.

Playfoot’s parents are key members of the British arm of the American chastity campaign group the Silver Ring Thing, a religious group which urges abstinence among young people.

Those who sign up wear a ring on the third finger of the left hand. It is inscribed with “Thess. 4:3-4,” a reference to a Biblical passage from Thessalonians which reads: “God wants you to be holy, so you should keep clear of all sexual sin.”

During the case, Playfoot’s lawyers argued that the ban by her school in Horsham, West Sussex, breached her human rights to “freedom of thought, conscience and religion” which are protected by the European Convention on Human Rights.

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Post by Ex-Cyber » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:59 pm

I believe that the judge’s decision will mean that slowly, over time, people such as school governors, employers, political organizations and others will be allowed to stop Christians from publicly expressing and practicing their faith.
This kind of rhetoric really gets under my skin when people aren't actually addressing religious discrimination. As far as the article provides (and as far as I've been able to gather from other sources), there is no special ban on Christian jewelery; it's a ban on students wearing jewelery in general. In fact, the lawyers for the school said that exceptions to the uniform policy are made for articles that are required by or otherwise integral to religious beliefs (e.g. headscarves for Muslims, crucifixes for Christians). Overall, I do think that this policy results in de-facto religious discrimination, but mostly against any religion or sect whose beliefs - unlike Christianity - aren't recognized by the administration. Inasmuch as school officials shouldn't get to be arbiters of which religious beliefs are valid, the policy should probably be scrapped altogether. Still, given the fact that crucifixes are explicitly allowed, I think it's ridiculous to suggest that this is somehow the first step on the slippery slope to the total oppression of Christians.
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Re: U.K. schoolgirl loses 'virginity ring' court battle

Post by jaredfogle » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:56 pm

Not fucking is pretty hard.

I would be pissed if they tried to take my symbol/trinket/holy ring that had been helping me not fuck.

Of course, you're not supposed to be fucking in school, so she could just take it off for part of the day.
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Post by mrandyk » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:08 pm

jaredfogle wrote:Of course, you're not supposed to be fucking in school, so she could just take it off for part of the day.
Exactly, how many people are fucking during school that you need a ring?
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Post by APE » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:53 am

mrandyk wrote:
jaredfogle wrote:Of course, you're not supposed to be fucking in school, so she could just take it off for part of the day.
Exactly, how many people are fucking during school that you need a ring?
Probably more than you'd think, at least on school grounds.
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Post by not just souLLy now » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:52 am

when you join a school in the uk your parents sign a contract that they and you adhere to the rules of the school, if you don't like them go to a different school.

It's all shitty one-upmanship because muslims have been getting exceptions from school rules wearing burkhas (sp?). People wanting to make political statements like this do nothing for their causes because it makes religious groups look like they're trying to out-do eachother.

She doesn't need the ring.
Heck from a biblical standpoint, Jesus said specifically not to make these kind of public demonstrations as they're the work of hypocrites.
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Post by Specially Cork » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:37 am

What use is a virgin ring once it's penetrated with a finger?
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Post by Hawq » Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:27 pm

It advertises that she's open for ear sex?
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Post by Calavera » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:32 pm

It's sad they have nothing better to do then sit in court and fight about a girl wearing a ring. Just let her wear the fucking ring, if she jabs somebody's eye out with it then ok, by all means take her to court. But until then get a life.
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Post by nogginthenog » Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:48 am

Calavera wrote:It's sad they have nothing better to do then sit in court and fight about a girl wearing a ring. Just let her wear the fucking ring, if she jabs somebody's eye out with it then ok, by all means take her to court. But until then get a life.
My thoughts exactly. How much money was wasted on this case I wonder?
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Post by toastman » Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:39 am

Calavera wrote:It's sad they have nothing better to do then sit in court and fight about a girl wearing a ring. Just let her wear the fucking ring, if she jabs somebody's eye out with it then ok, by all means take her to court. But until then get a life.
I think it's sad that the girl has nothing better to do than sit in court and fight about not being allowed to wear a ring. Just follow the fucking dress code. If it becomes central to the core tenets of Christianity, then by all means take them to court. But until then, she should just get a life.

Fucking people looking for fucking special exemptions to non-discriminatory practices.
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Post by ace » Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:36 pm

not just souLLy now wrote:when you join a school in the uk your parents sign a contract that they and you adhere to the rules of the school, if you don't like them go to a different school.

It's all shitty one-upmanship because muslims have been getting exceptions from school rules wearing burkhas (sp?). People wanting to make political statements like this do nothing for their causes because it makes religious groups look like they're trying to out-do eachother.

She doesn't need the ring.
Heck from a biblical standpoint, Jesus said specifically not to make these kind of public demonstrations as they're the work of hypocrites.
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Post by |darc| » Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:56 pm

toastman wrote:
Calavera wrote:It's sad they have nothing better to do then sit in court and fight about a girl wearing a ring. Just let her wear the fucking ring, if she jabs somebody's eye out with it then ok, by all means take her to court. But until then get a life.
I think it's sad that the girl has nothing better to do than sit in court and fight about not being allowed to wear a ring. Just follow the fucking dress code. If it becomes central to the core tenets of Christianity, then by all means take them to court. But until then, she should just get a life.

Fucking people looking for fucking special exemptions to non-discriminatory practices.
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Post by Cid Highwind » Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:09 pm

toastman wrote:
Calavera wrote:It's sad they have nothing better to do then sit in court and fight about a girl wearing a ring. Just let her wear the fucking ring, if she jabs somebody's eye out with it then ok, by all means take her to court. But until then get a life.
I think it's sad that the girl has nothing better to do than sit in court and fight about not being allowed to wear a ring. Just follow the fucking dress code. If it becomes central to the core tenets of Christianity, then by all means take them to court. But until then, she should just get a life.

Fucking people looking for fucking special exemptions to non-discriminatory practices.
I couldn't agree more. If she wants it close to her that badly she should've went with a piercing down below to remind her. I doubt they'll ask her to take off out of those :wink:
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Post by Code-Red » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:37 pm

Take your fucking religion elsewhere bitch. If I wanted to hear/see religion I'd go to a Church, as I don't need your annoying cult pestering me in public, thanks.


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Post by AgentGreen » Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:23 pm

not just souLLy now wrote: Heck from a biblical standpoint, Jesus said specifically not to make these kind of public demonstrations as they're the work of hypocrites.
Can you tell me where it is he says that? Not doubting you, I'd just like to point it out to a bunch of bible thumpers on campus that should really be shown it :lol:
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Post by Ex-Cyber » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:27 am

AgentGreen wrote:
not just souLLy now wrote: Heck from a biblical standpoint, Jesus said specifically not to make these kind of public demonstrations as they're the work of hypocrites.
Can you tell me where it is he says that? Not doubting you, I'd just like to point it out to a bunch of bible thumpers on campus that should really be shown it :lol:
I'm not sure it literally applies to this situation, but it's in the first verses of Matthew 6.
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Post by Roofus » Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:59 am

Matthew 6:1-4 wrote:Be careful not to do your 'acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
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