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Post by Wagh » Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:24 pm

Does everyone really care that much? I mean gizmodo and engadget have up to the minute information about how long people have been waiting in lines and where at? Who the fuck cares its a god damn phone. This intense of hyping really is just fucking annoying now. Fuck apple.
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Post by DaMadFiddler » Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:24 pm

Wagh wrote:Does everyone really care that much? I mean gizmodo and engadget have up to the minute information about how long people have been waiting in lines and where at? Who the fuck cares its a god damn phone. This intense of hyping really is just fucking annoying now. Fuck apple.
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Post by JellyWarrior » Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:47 pm

I thought I was alone, the iPhone is great and all but no, I am not excited and am still sceptical that it's going to be the success that everyone says that it will be.
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Post by pavelbure » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:31 pm

Wagh wrote:Does everyone really care that much? I mean gizmodo and engadget have up to the minute information about how long people have been waiting in lines and where at? Who the fuck cares its a god damn phone. This intense of hyping really is just fucking annoying now.
agreed. why people are spending $500-$600 on a mediocre ipod / cell phone hybrid is beyond me.
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Post by zero » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:04 pm

I also agree.
I dont see what all the hype is about.
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Post by melancholy » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:45 pm

I would love to have one, as I do think it is a nice phone, but I'll wait for both a 30 gig hard drive and a $200 range to consider it.
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Post by Lartrak » Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:52 am

It's way too big. The thing is a fucking brick. That's fine for an iPod, but I don't want something that big for a cellphone.
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Post by Gmc » Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:07 am

We've had better phones in europe for ages. In america they lock down your phones -really- bad.
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Post by SinisterTengu » Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:32 am

I would pay the $600 if it had a 100GB hard drive, but not 8 gigs of flash. A 100GB iPod would be worth around $350 I figure (I think thats what the 80gb's go for right now and they always keep the prices the same but bump up the storage capacity from gen to gen). So another $250 for a smart phone in the same device would be a good deal for me. It would probably have too much of a negative impact on battery life though. But as it is, I don't think its too big since carrying a smaller phone and an iPod separate is even more of a hastle. I find iPods fit very comfortably in my pocket, and this looks to be of similar shape and size, hardly a "brick."
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Post by Specially Cork » Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:48 pm

Gmc wrote:We've had better phones in europe for ages. In america they lock down your phones -really- bad.
This is why I don't think it will do so well over here. $500 for a phone as long as you sign up for a 2 year contract. The phone industry just doesn't work like that over here.

A brand new state of the art phone would cost you £75-£100 Maximum on an 12 month contract, and £0-£50 Maximum on an 18 month. Within 6 months it will be free on a 12 month contract. The idea of spending so much money on a phone, then being locked into such a long contract doesn't sit well with me, and I think most Brits (and probably most Europeans?) will feel the same way.

And like you said, it isn't even that good. They've dropped a number of key features just for the sake of a snazzy high res screen and a touch screen menu. I can get better phones, with better camera, better audio playback and a ton more software and features for free.
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Post by APE » Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:02 pm

If it was being made by Nokia, Gizmodo, or Phillips no-one would give a shit. The apple cult is approaching critical and I expect some of the idiocy to deflate.
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Post by DaMadFiddler » Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:32 pm

BoneyCork wrote:
Gmc wrote:We've had better phones in europe for ages. In america they lock down your phones -really- bad.
This is why I don't think it will do so well over here. $500 for a phone as long as you sign up for a 2 year contract. The phone industry just doesn't work like that over here.

A brand new state of the art phone would cost you £75-£100 Maximum on an 12 month contract, and £0-£50 Maximum on an 18 month. Within 6 months it will be free on a 12 month contract. The idea of spending so much money on a phone, then being locked into such a long contract doesn't sit well with me, and I think most Brits (and probably most Europeans?) will feel the same way.

And like you said, it isn't even that good. They've dropped a number of key features just for the sake of a snazzy high res screen and a touch screen menu. I can get better phones, with better camera, better audio playback and a ton more software and features for free.
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Post by Cid Highwind » Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:58 pm

I phone, Youphone, ET Phone Home, meh...

What's the big deal about Ipods and Iphones anyway? 95% of the time they're in your pocket anyway. Admitted, I have an LG Shine, and also for its looks. But if it wasn't within my budget of what my operator would offer me for a good price with my contract, I'd have picked another phone.

Same with my MP3 player, I still use a 256mb flash player which I got for free after having helped the neighbours set up their internet connection. It came as a gift with their contract. I've been using it for 2 years now and it has never failed me, and it has good audio quality. What matters most are the headphones anyway. It's easy to use as well, cause I don't have to look at the screen in order to find my way, which is the most important thing to me. And a funny fact, at work I had two guys asking me where they could buy this thing because they liked the design, while it's just a no name (Maxmann in fact) player. :P

Why pay so much, it's not like you're the pimp if the guy next door has one as well because he also gave in to the hype. :roll:
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Post by |darc| » Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:31 pm

The biggest thing about iPhone is its completely different and fresh interface. Arguably, that is the best thing about Apple software: its interfaces.
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Post by Specially Cork » Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:45 pm

|darc| wrote:The biggest thing about iPhone is its completely different and fresh interface. Arguably, that is the best thing about Apple software: its interfaces.
I agree the interface looks cool, but there's no avoiding the fact that it has been slapped over dated phone hardware. :(
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Post by Roofus » Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:03 pm

|darc| wrote:The biggest thing about iPhone is its completely different and fresh interface. Arguably, that is the best thing about Apple software: its interfaces.
Is the standard telephone interface so bad that it's worth $500 to replace it with a completely new one that hasn't been tested?
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Post by |darc| » Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:35 pm

Roofus wrote:
|darc| wrote:The biggest thing about iPhone is its completely different and fresh interface. Arguably, that is the best thing about Apple software: its interfaces.
Is the standard telephone interface so bad that it's worth $500 to replace it with a completely new one that hasn't been tested?
Most phone interfaces are absolute shit. For $500? No, I don't think so. I will probably wind up getting one eventually, but not until the price comes down a few hundred. I've had the same piece of shit phone for over 3 years.
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Post by CupNoodle » Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:19 pm

I was going to post an obligatory anti-gadget respones, but figured "what's the point?". Here's my phone.

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It works and I don't have to worry about dropping it.
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Post by MulletMan13 » Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:26 pm

Got one last night, and initially I wasn't too excited until I held one. After I played around with it before the store opened, I was sold. Dated hardware? EDGE may be old, but it is working fine for web pages. I've been playing with it all day, and having a full web browser (I realy don't even notice the absence of flash) is really awesome. Google Maps is near instant on EDGE as well. I can completely see why they picked this over 3G, because of battery life and the fact that 3g (well in america at least) is only in major cities). I took it out to the suburb I grew up and got same speeds (ending up to be about 25 kilobytes a second -- fine for browsing). As for people wanting obscene sized hard drives? Uh... last time I checked, a 32gb flash solid state drive cost upwards of $400 just for the drive.... that isn't happening anytime soon at all unless flash prices come WAY down.

And as for you guys saying that an interface can't make a "mediocre" phone any better -- guess again. The thing fucking flies in every task, and multitasks with web/email/music even better than a Windows machine.

Yeah, I'm sure that I'll be getting flamed in here for my "fanboyism" and shit like that, but frankly I don't care. The phone is solid, can be upgraded through software updates to add features, and is fast enough for me... so I don't have any problems or qualms spending that much on a phone. This truly is going to replace my laptop (the only reason I had a laptop was for email and web browsing), it's getting an iPod for myself (since I didn't have one), and it's replacing my aging RAZR. Personally I wouldn't pass judgment on it until you've played around with it for a couple days. All ready today I've needed to find directions, find a number through white pages, and email a couple of things all on the go, at times I couldn't have done any of those things before.

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Post by |darc| » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:29 pm

CupNoodle wrote:I was going to post an obligatory anti-gadget respones, but figured "what's the point?". Here's my phone.

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It works and I don't have to worry about dropping it.
Yours is better than mine :)

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the thing won't die, though... i've dropped it a million times and on prom night i was wasted and throwing it at the wall over and over again
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