Timbaland/Nelly Furtado steal demoscene track

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Timbaland/Nelly Furtado steal demoscene track

Post by |darc| » Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:59 am

I saw this on Slashdot earlier, and at first I was skeptical (like some pro musician would care about demoscene stuff..) but after seeing more, I can definitely say this is a ripoff. The song did win first place at a demoscene convention, so that does explain how it was known...

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showth ... id=2274635





The Nelly Furtado song...
mp3 clip - http://www.limpninja.com/acidjazz/furtado_doit.mp3
full song - http://youtube.com/watch?v=8N4ovp90Ea0

The demoscene track...
mp3 - http://www.limpninja.com/acidjazz/tempest_acidjazz.mp3
original MOD file: http://www.scene.org/file.php?file=/par ... p&fileinfo

Comparison:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4KX7SkDe4Q&NR
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Post by Luriden » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:12 am

Wtf is demoscene?

Edit: Nvm, just Googled it. No wonder the song sounds like a C64 song, because it is. :lol:
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Post by |darc| » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:20 am

Freaky Keneaki wrote:Wtf is demoscene?

Edit: Nvm, just Googled it. No wonder the song sounds like a C64 song, because it is. :lol:
I linked to the demoscene article on Wikipedia. :P
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Post by Juan » Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:43 pm

Ripoff indeed. No idea who that Timbaland is, but he ain't a "pro musician" :evil:
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Post by RMD » Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:01 pm

The difference is his isnt ruined by her singing horriably over it. However can't they just sue him and get tons of money anyways? Or was the sampling payed for in the first place?
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Post by Thomas » Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:15 pm

RMD wrote:The difference is his isnt ruined by her singing horriably over it. However can't they just sue him and get tons of money anyways? Or was the sampling payed for in the first place?
It was never paid for, that is why this has been posted on a lot of sites. If it was paid for, no one would care that is was sampled as the original artist would be getting compensated for it.
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Post by deemoney » Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:30 pm

Nelly furtado is hot. you guys are just haters.
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Post by mankrip » Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:50 pm

I thought you were talking about Timbalada =P.
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Post by ace » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:28 pm

Juan wrote:Ripoff indeed. No idea who that Timbaland is, but he ain't a "pro musician" :evil:
He's a producer.
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Post by Thomas » Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:50 pm

ace wrote:
Juan wrote:Ripoff indeed. No idea who that Timbaland is, but he ain't a "pro musician" :evil:
He's a producer.
He used to rap too, didn't he? I could have sworn he put out some songs a few years ago.
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Post by perry » Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:06 am

Yeah but his rapping isn't the hottest. Especially live it's terrible.

He used to be a really good producer, but it seems lately everythings been trashy pop music.
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Post by RMD » Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:02 pm

I went and thought about all the hot songs he's produced and after this Im sitting here questioning where he might of stoled those from. Its like everything he's done is tarnished by making one mistake. He needs to come out with a statement saying he forgot to give credit where credit was due and then give a nice payoff.
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Post by VB_User » Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:17 pm

To whoever said that they dont know who timberland is and that hes not a pro musician. Got to tell you thats a very very ignorant statement. Timberland is one of the top music producers in the industry today. Ill tell you right now he is a professional musician and is a very good one to. Yes this was obviously taken from something and the sample was not cleared but this sort of thing happens all the time. This in no way means the man is not talented. Sorry for the rant but that comment just kinda pissed me off.

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Post by butters » Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:38 pm

VB_User wrote:To whoever said that they dont know who timberland is and that hes not a pro musician. Got to tell you thats a very very ignorant statement. Timberland is one of the top music producers in the industry today. Ill tell you right now he is a professional musician and is a very good one to. Yes this was obviously taken from something and the sample was not cleared but this sort of thing happens all the time. This in no way means the man is not talented. Sorry for the rant but that comment just kinda pissed me off.

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Post by Stormwatch » Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:25 pm

It was not just some small sample. Pretty much the whole song is a straight rip-off!
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Post by Roofus » Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:52 pm

That really is amazing. (As in "It's amazing to me that he gets paid to download tracks off the internet, put a beat over it, call it his own work and then get paid piles of money for it.") Isn't the track in the public domain though? I only have minimal experience with demoscene stuff, but the stuff I have seen/heard was always freely available.
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Post by butters » Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:17 pm

Roofus wrote:That really is amazing. (As in "It's amazing to me that he gets paid to download tracks off the internet, put a beat over it, call it his own work and then get paid piles of money for it.") Isn't the track in the public domain though? I only have minimal experience with demoscene stuff, but the stuff I have seen/heard was always freely available.
Unless you explicitly release your work from copyright, you retain your rights to it. Especially in this case, where they are making commercial derivative works. I don't see a license of any type, so it's no different that someone making a picture available on the internet. If that picture appeared in an art gallery under someone else's name, the creator could sue.
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Post by arrowhead » Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:36 pm

Bowser wrote:Nelly furtado is hot. you guys are just haters.
Christ she is hot.
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Post by Ex-Cyber » Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:17 pm

Roofus wrote:That really is amazing. (As in "It's amazing to me that he gets paid to download tracks off the internet, put a beat over it, call it his own work and then get paid piles of money for it.") Isn't the track in the public domain though? I only have minimal experience with demoscene stuff, but the stuff I have seen/heard was always freely available.
My limited understanding is that in general demoscene tracks are (by convention) free to distribute, but appropriating someone else's work without credit - i.e. plagiarism - is considered to be a very serious moral offense. I can't recall the site now, but one large archive of tracker music had a "hall of shame" sort of page listing artists/tracks that had ripped tracker patterns from other songs.

edit: here it is
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Post by jaredfogle » Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:47 pm

arrowhead wrote:
Bowser wrote:Nelly furtado is hot. you guys are just haters.
Christ she is hot.
Remember that song she did with J5?
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