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Post by pixel » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:40 pm

I'm waiting for the inevitable backlash, considering this is loosely translated.
Kotaku wrote: With titles like Red Steel on Wii, Nintendo seems nevertheless to want less and less [association] with children. One said the same thing on Gamecube and finally, they are nevertheless children, in very great majority, who bought. But the very great majority remains children nevertheless.

You do not feel that that can evolve/move with Wii?
With what I saw, frankly, not.

As well as:

It is not because we saw Nintendo announcing this functionality that in six months Sony immediately started to develop something. In six months, it is impossible; this kind of project takes years.

Okay, I'm willing to also buy that. So why did some developers have to allegedly retrofit their original control schemes to adapt to the gyro wizardry of the PS3 controller, while others were completely oblivious to its very existence? It is a mystery.

Now, onto Phil Harrison and how he feels about the best gaming platform ever, the PC.

Besides defending the PS3, Harrison took time to evangelize the device, which will launch worldwide this November. In particular he said the Linux-based operating system on the console's hard drive will have enough processing power and non-gaming functionalities to render traditional PCs--most of which use a form of Microsoft's Windows OS--moot in the home. "We believe that the PS3 will be the place where our users play games, watch films, browse the Web, and use other [home] computer functions," said Harrison. "The PlayStation 3 is a computer. We do not need the PC."
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Post by MulletMan13 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:51 pm

***throws his computers out the window***

Oh boy!
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Post by mikozero » Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:12 pm

XP MCE like functionality maybe

web browsing, email, messaging, on-line chat, sony movie downloads, sony music downloads, plug in your sony walkman, camera etc, playback of current media formats and (of course) gaming.

so yeah for a kid or someones mom more used to a sky plus box then yeah 'it can replace a PC'

(notice all sony hardware and 'software', see i can be cynical too)

it'll just look like a further extension of Xbox stuff, everyones aiming for the same thing - a locked box for the living room doing all of the above = convergence. they were telling us about it years ago, just now all the console players are gonna be in the same ball park.

and the arguments about coping and originality will fly but in the end they're about as relavent as those in the browser wars.

its also worth remembering that there are two ways of interpreting 'PC' - IBM-PC 'our loveable upgradeable constantly tweakable grey boxes' and 'Personal Computer'

having used many PCs before arriving at IBM-PCs, (Atari STs and Amigas especially) i can see that if you take that interpretation, he has a point. if your not computer savvy and like the look of XP MCE (on a big screen TV) then you may well consider a console with the same immediate functionality as an alternative purchase.

not much point to this post really, as it'll be torn down by nintendy'bots convinced the introduction of real physical skill and coordination into console games is a good thing and, in some cases i'm sure, forgetting why they got into computer games as opposed to real ones in the first place.

"wanna play wii mario tennis ?"
"you know there's a tennis court over the other side of the street there"
"but look, i can play with Sven in Hong Kong with this wand in front of the TV, it is really kinda hard to hit the backhands right though . . . and the serves . . . the ball being invisible outside the TV doesn't help . . ."
"Yeah about that, we were in with those Girls last week till you showed them your 'bushido blade' light saber technique for 3 hours"
"so ? i won"
"do it again and i'm gonna stick that wand up your arse"
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Post by ASCIIN » Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:29 pm

MulletMan13 wrote:***throws his computers out the window***

Oh boy!
lol, that statement goes well with your advatar

seeing a lot of sony fanboys aren't the brightest bunch I won't be shocked if someone buys a pc game and tries to play it on their ps3..
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Post by Nick » Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:35 pm

Very sexy hero, omg
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Post by mikozero » Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:51 pm

ASCIIN wrote:seeing a lot of sony fanboys aren't the brightest bunch I won't be shocked if someone buys a pc game and tries to play it on their ps3..
if there's a Linux build and a HDD explain to me why that wouldn't work :P
(and no i'm not a 'fanboy')
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Post by MulletMan13 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:56 pm

mikozero wrote:
ASCIIN wrote:seeing a lot of sony fanboys aren't the brightest bunch I won't be shocked if someone buys a pc game and tries to play it on their ps3..
if there's a Linux build and a HDD explain to me why that wouldn't work :P
(and no i'm not a 'fanboy')
Heh, I hope there is more merit to it this time around.... you know, since it was promised for the PS2 and all....

With the cell processor I really don't see instruction sets getting ported over easily at all.
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Post by ASCIIN » Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:56 pm

mikozero wrote:
ASCIIN wrote:seeing a lot of sony fanboys aren't the brightest bunch I won't be shocked if someone buys a pc game and tries to play it on their ps3..
if there's a Linux build and a HDD explain to me why that wouldn't work :P
(and no i'm not a 'fanboy')
because most pc games require direct x..
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Post by mikozero » Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:06 pm

mikozero wrote:Linux build
of the game !

any ID game, a good few UT versions (UTC/2003/2004/2006) and therefore all games based on these popular engines (in theory) and others run in OpenGL (?) under Linux (though usually you have to send off for the disc)

PS3 runs Linux, PS3 games are developed on Linux (i think)
PS3 takes a PC standard HDD (from what i've read)

:idea: actually i'm seeing something else in that now, lots of new console games being developed on and for a Linux Platform.
:?: i wonder if any developers will 'get clever'

it would really piss off microsoft (which would please sony no doubt) if PS3 ports started coming out for Linux (say with a 6 month lag or something).

nah, it'll probably just be like WinCE on the DC, right ? :hah:
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Post by ASCIIN » Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:42 pm

mikozero wrote:
mikozero wrote:Linux build
of the game !

any ID game, a good few UT versions (UTC/2003/2004/2006) and therefore all games based on these popular engines (in theory) and others run in OpenGL (?) under Linux (though usually you have to send off for the disc)

PS3 runs Linux, PS3 games are developed on Linux (i think)
PS3 takes a PC standard HDD (from what i've read)

:idea: actually i'm seeing something else in that now, lots of new console games being developed on and for a Linux Platform.
:?: i wonder if any developers will 'get clever'

it would really piss off microsoft (which would please sony no doubt) if PS3 ports started coming out for Linux (say with a 6 month lag or something).

nah, it'll probably just be like WinCE on the DC, right ? :hah:
it doesn't run linux, the os is LINUX-BASED which could cause a lot of problems simular to how xbox runs a stripped down version of Dx8 but not the complete version.
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Post by Mattiethomas » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:47 pm

I'm hating Sony more every day. Now their telling me to get rid of my PC. I can't take this crap from them.
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Post by |darc| » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:51 pm

ASCIIN wrote:it doesn't run linux, the os is LINUX-BASED which could cause a lot of problems simular to how xbox runs a stripped down version of Dx8 but not the complete version.
It's different, because "Linux" is just a kernel. KDE/Gnome and all that stuff has nothing to do with Linux. Chances are it will simply have a ported and optimized Linux kernel compiled with only the options it needs.
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Post by Ex-Cyber » Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:20 pm

Also, they'll probably hide anything important behind a closed-source kernel module (there are potential legal issues surrounding the distribution of the resulting OS, but it should be possible to dodge them) with restricted interfaces.
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Post by Disheveled DrFreeze » Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:13 am

ASCIIN wrote:
mikozero wrote:
ASCIIN wrote:seeing a lot of sony fanboys aren't the brightest bunch I won't be shocked if someone buys a pc game and tries to play it on their ps3..
if there's a Linux build and a HDD explain to me why that wouldn't work :P
(and no i'm not a 'fanboy')
because most pc games require direct x..
not to mention the fact that ALL PC games (save for a few old mac titles) are compiled for x86 cpu's and the CELL cant run that, if you are lucky it shares some ISA with the PPC... and no CELL isnt powerfull enough to emulate x86 at reasonable speeds

so basicly you would need a very universal PPC compile of a game coded for linux, OpenGL running on the ps3, and a shit load of luck for the compatibility
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Post by Roofus » Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:48 am

no CELL isnt powerfull enough to emulate x86 at reasonable speeds
YOU TAKE THAT BACK THE CELL CAN EMULATE ANYTHING EVEN STUFF THATS NOT OUT YET FUCK YOU!!!!!!!111 :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Post by Disheveled DrFreeze » Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:06 pm

Roofus wrote:
no CELL isnt powerfull enough to emulate x86 at reasonable speeds
YOU TAKE THAT BACK THE CELL CAN EMULATE ANYTHING EVEN STUFF THATS NOT OUT YET fudge YOU!!!!!!!111 :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
awww did i hurt your sony loving heart?

from what ive read, i wouldnt be the least bit surprised if the PS3 turns out to be less powerfull then the 360, i would actually be surprised if the ps3 is more powerfull
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Post by APE » Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:31 pm

The cell emulates a toaster nicely. Unforunately it tends to burn one side and under cook the other.
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Post by Dreamcast4life » Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:02 pm

:roll: sony are idiots. sorry but its now a offical fact. I will FOREVER use my PC!
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Post by pixel » Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:06 pm

Dreamcast4life wrote:I will FOREVER use my PC!
Have fun when I get my own personal Matrix to mess around with.
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