Correction: Rome was THE greatest civilization EVER.Covar wrote:Rome was one of the greatest civilizations of its time.jaredfogle wrote:Call it a Freudian slip or a Straussian insertion, but I'm telling you that these assholes want us to be the New Rome.
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Yes, it was, however you can easily see the parallels between the reasons Rome fell, and what is happening today in America...|darc| wrote:Correction: Rome was THE greatest civilization EVER.Covar wrote:Rome was one of the greatest civilizations of its time.jaredfogle wrote:Call it a Freudian slip or a Straussian insertion, but I'm telling you that these assholes want us to be the New Rome.
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Oh, I do agree with you on that.N3m3sis wrote:Yes, it was, however you can easily see the parallels between the reasons Rome fell, and what is happening today in America...|darc| wrote:Correction: Rome was THE greatest civilization EVER.Covar wrote:Rome was one of the greatest civilizations of its time.jaredfogle wrote:Call it a Freudian slip or a Straussian insertion, but I'm telling you that these assholes want us to be the New Rome.
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Why?|darc| wrote:Correction: Rome was THE greatest civilization EVER.Covar wrote:Rome was one of the greatest civilizations of its time.jaredfogle wrote:Call it a Freudian slip or a Straussian insertion, but I'm telling you that these assholes want us to be the New Rome.
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Because it was.Lartrak wrote:Why?|darc| wrote:Correction: Rome was THE greatest civilization EVER.Covar wrote:Rome was one of the greatest civilizations of its time.jaredfogle wrote:Call it a Freudian slip or a Straussian insertion, but I'm telling you that these assholes want us to be the New Rome.
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Because someone takes Latin and they need justification.Lartrak wrote:Why?|darc| wrote:Correction: Rome was THE greatest civilization EVER.Covar wrote:Rome was one of the greatest civilizations of its time.jaredfogle wrote:Call it a Freudian slip or a Straussian insertion, but I'm telling you that these assholes want us to be the New Rome.
Unless you are going into either the medical or legal fields, there is a lot of Latin used there.
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Or language.toastman wrote:Because someone takes Latin and they need justification.Lartrak wrote:Why?|darc| wrote:Correction: Rome was THE greatest civilization EVER.Covar wrote:Rome was one of the greatest civilizations of its time.jaredfogle wrote:Call it a Freudian slip or a Straussian insertion, but I'm telling you that these assholes want us to be the New Rome.
Unless you are going into either the medical or legal fields, there is a lot of Latin used there.
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Perhaps you could explain what "greatest" means then. There are many definitions. What makes it greater than, say, Western civilization as a whole, or Chinese civilization?|darc| wrote:Because it was.Lartrak wrote:Why?|darc| wrote:Correction: Rome was THE greatest civilization EVER.Covar wrote:Rome was one of the greatest civilizations of its time.jaredfogle wrote:Call it a Freudian slip or a Straussian insertion, but I'm telling you that these assholes want us to be the New Rome.
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They were generally ahead of the rest of the world in most ways (opinion, of course) until around 1500 ADish, when Europe began to pull ahead and China stagnated some.mikozero wrote:you can make smashing films based on it.
personally i'd vote for the Chinese as at least they've been around non-stop for over 5,000 years, and where way ahead of anyone else for at least half that.
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On a whole (meaning from the organization of itself as an identifiable people), I'd say Great Britain was, if not the, most accomplished civilization. I don't like to grant that as bragging rights, but no one's conquered as much of the world and spread their language so widely across the globe. In modern times, American culture has doubled that influence.
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Might as well study German, seeing as how the English is Germanic in origin rather than Romantic. Latin does form the roots of several languages, French and Spanish being the two biggest ones, but you ignore all of the Slavic and Oriental languages. And all of the African languages, or course.|darc| wrote:Or language.toastman wrote:Because someone takes Latin and they need justification.Lartrak wrote:Why?|darc| wrote:Correction: Rome was THE greatest civilization EVER.Covar wrote:Rome was one of the greatest civilizations of its time.jaredfogle wrote:Call it a Freudian slip or a Straussian insertion, but I'm telling you that these assholes want us to be the New Rome.
Unless you are going into either the medical or legal fields, there is a lot of Latin used there.
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or theology.|darc| wrote:Or language.toastman wrote:Because someone takes Latin and they need justification.Lartrak wrote:Why?|darc| wrote:Correction: Rome was THE greatest civilization EVER.Covar wrote:Rome was one of the greatest civilizations of its time.jaredfogle wrote:Call it a Freudian slip or a Straussian insertion, but I'm telling you that these assholes want us to be the New Rome.
Unless you are going into either the medical or legal fields, there is a lot of Latin used there.
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or botanyCovar wrote:or theology.|darc| wrote:Or language.toastman wrote:Because someone takes Latin and they need justification.Lartrak wrote:Why?|darc| wrote:Correction: Rome was THE greatest civilization EVER.Covar wrote:Rome was one of the greatest civilizations of its time.jaredfogle wrote:Call it a Freudian slip or a Straussian insertion, but I'm telling you that these assholes want us to be the New Rome.
Unless you are going into either the medical or legal fields, there is a lot of Latin used there.
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You don't have to school me on languages, I am more than informed in that area. I am in German right now, anyway. Also, although English is Germanic in origin, well over 60% of its vocabulary is descended from Latin, especially because of its use as a lingua franca. I don't want to study English, anyway. My primary interest and passion is the Romance languages. My educational objective is to learn them all.toastman wrote:Might as well study German, seeing as how the English is Germanic in origin rather than Romantic. Latin does form the roots of several languages, French and Spanish being the two biggest ones, but you ignore all of the Slavic and Oriental languages. And all of the African languages, or course.|darc| wrote:Or language.toastman wrote:Because someone takes Latin and they need justification.Lartrak wrote:Why?|darc| wrote:Correction: Rome was THE greatest civilization EVER.Covar wrote:Rome was one of the greatest civilizations of its time.jaredfogle wrote:Call it a Freudian slip or a Straussian insertion, but I'm telling you that these assholes want us to be the New Rome.
Unless you are going into either the medical or legal fields, there is a lot of Latin used there.
Edit: I was being jokingly arrogant about my comment on Rome, and although I believe it is true, it's just my opinion. I have a greater appreciation for Roman culture than I do Chinese; it doesn't mean one is actually greater than the other.
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Yeah, I knew what you were doing. I just felt like being a bit of an ass with it. Oh well.|darc| wrote:You don't have to school me on languages, I am more than informed in that area. I am in German right now, anyway. Also, although English is Germanic in origin, well over 60% of its vocabulary is descended from Latin, especially because of its use as a lingua franca. I don't want to study English, anyway. My primary interest and passion is the Romance languages. My educational objective is to learn them all.toastman wrote:Might as well study German, seeing as how the English is Germanic in origin rather than Romantic. Latin does form the roots of several languages, French and Spanish being the two biggest ones, but you ignore all of the Slavic and Oriental languages. And all of the African languages, or course.|darc| wrote:Or language.toastman wrote:Because someone takes Latin and they need justification.Lartrak wrote:Why?|darc| wrote:Correction: Rome was THE greatest civilization EVER.Covar wrote:Rome was one of the greatest civilizations of its time.jaredfogle wrote:Call it a Freudian slip or a Straussian insertion, but I'm telling you that these assholes want us to be the New Rome.
Unless you are going into either the medical or legal fields, there is a lot of Latin used there.
Edit: I was being jokingly arrogant about my comment on Rome, and although I believe it is true, it's just my opinion. I have a greater appreciation for Roman culture than I do Chinese; it doesn't mean one is actually greater than the other.
BTW, where did you hear the 60%? I'm not sure I doubt it (it's amazing how much of my latin dictionary I can understand), but I am curious.
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I do not remember exactly where I heard that from, it might have been my Latin teacher. Wikipedia says 80%. "It is said that 80% of all scholarly English words are derived from Latin, in a large number of cases by way of French."Lartrak wrote:BTW, where did you hear the 60%? I'm not sure I doubt it (it's amazing how much of my latin dictionary I can understand), but I am curious.
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