A look at the 360's guts

Hawq · Post by **Hawq** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:25 pm

anandtech have a look at the internals of a 360, interestingly if that warranty sticker is in the same place in all units then putting a HD in a 360 that came withotu one will void your warranty, expect a lot of pissed off customers over that one, also the drive seems to be a 2.5" Serial ATA notebook hard drive so possiblility of putting a larger one in perhaps?

Post by **Specially Cork** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:05 pm

Hawq wrote:interestingly if that warranty sticker is in the same place in all units then putting a HD in a 360 that came withotu one will void your warranty, expect a lot of pissed off customers over that one

Well no, because Microsoft will be selling HHD units seperately for you to add on to your Xbox 360, obviously locked inside that plastic casing thing. You didn't really think MS would justlet you buy PC parts and stick them inside did you? I don't see why anybody would be pissed off...

jaredfogle · Post by **jaredfogle** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:09 pm

Looks like the inside of my Macintosh Performa 6116, IIRC the model number.

It broke when I was 12, so I dissected the fucker.

mink03 · Post by **mink03** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:24 pm

wow holy huge power brick you need for it..kinda wish the psu was in the system..but pry gets too hot..and they wanted the system smaller, eh whatever, what ever happened to the universal plug that i could use to power my ps2 and my dc

Vchat20 · Post by **Vchat20** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:27 pm

hehe. I was gonna say the same thing. thats one damned huge power brick.

Caboose · Post by **Caboose** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:49 pm

lol, and people were saying that you couldn't open it (earlier on). It's been opened already and hasn't even come out yet

XPoGoX · Post by **XPoGoX** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:06 pm

mink03 wrote:wow holy huge power brick you need for it..kinda wish the psu was in the system..but pry gets too hot..and they wanted the system smaller, eh whatever, what ever happened to the universal plug that i could use to power my ps2 and my dc

Dont ya just hide the psu behind your tv anyway?, hehe its outta sight...I dont understand why ppl are bugged about how big it is.

Tall Israeli · Post by **Tall Israeli** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:49 pm

XPoGoX wrote:
mink03 wrote:wow holy huge power brick you need for it..kinda wish the psu was in the system..but pry gets too hot..and they wanted the system smaller, eh whatever, what ever happened to the universal plug that i could use to power my ps2 and my dc
Dont ya just hide the psu behind your tv anyway?, hehe its outta sight...I dont understand why ppl are bugged about how big it is.

You'll have to see it to believe it.

XPoGoX · Post by **XPoGoX** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:40 pm

Oh ive seen it, haha its huuge, but again most people put thme out of eyes sight. Seems like people will complain about anything. I for one cant belive they made the controller white!!!...zomg?!

Ex-Cyber · Post by **Ex-Cyber** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:55 pm

That dual-die GPU has got to be hurting Microsoft's pocketbook. They must think it's really important to launch first, heh.

Tall Israeli · Post by **Tall Israeli** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:28 pm

I can't wait until I mod the hell out of this thing and get some Dreamcast emulator running.

XPoGoX · Post by **XPoGoX** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:31 pm

Yea I cant wait to see what this thing emulates, haha...but I CAN wait for the post.."Is there an emulator to play ps3 games on xbox360!!?"

AntiPro · Post by **AntiPro** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:31 pm

with all the connectivity features and an external hardrive(and the fact that its pretty much a pc) how soon do you think theyll be able to get stuff working on it?

Sir Savant · Post by **Sir Savant** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:42 pm

It looks just like a dell.

MKE · Post by **MKE** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:46 pm

i was thinking more along the lines of a gateway...

Tall Israeli · Post by **Tall Israeli** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:57 pm

AntiPro wrote:with all the connectivity features and an external hardrive(and the fact that its pretty much a pc) how soon do you think theyll be able to get stuff working on it?

I don't think it'll take too long and it'll definitely have some amazing software on it. Being able to hook up a keyboard/mouse will make it a personal PC.

XPoGoX · Post by **XPoGoX** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:10 pm

a personal personal computer huh!!?

Vchat20 · Post by **Vchat20** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:01 pm

suprisingly enough they showed there being standard usb ports (not even hacked up ports like the original xbox) on the 360. really cant get better than that.

I really think the 360 is going to be a major hit in the homebrew community, maybe more than its predecessor.

AntiPro · Post by **AntiPro** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:04 pm

I saw them hook it up to a PSP on G4 today.

That should be fun...

Ex-Cyber · Post by **Ex-Cyber** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:46 pm

I don't think it'll take too long and it'll definitely have some amazing software on it.

I really think the 360 is going to be a major hit in the homebrew community, maybe more than its predecessor.

I have a feeling that 360's code pathways will be locked up fairly tight. Microsoft has clearly been using Xbox hardware revisions to test some anti-mod techniques, and have had a degree of success (they've not made it impossible by a long shot, but they have made it more difficult. Remember that 360 has a fully custom CPU. Unlike Xbox where the best they could do was hide a chunk of secret boot code in another chip and hope nobody noticed, they could pretty much completely obfuscate the initial boot process on 360 by putting various clever bits on the CPU itself. Mods will probably exist, but don't be surprised if they are unwieldy and expensive. The reason I say this is that the most likely weak link is the GPU/northbridge <-> RAM link. If the only recourse is to tap into the GDDR3 link to patch the kernel, you can expect that the mods will be quite expensive and difficult to install compared to what is customary today. Still, MS made numerous silly mistakes in the design of the Xbox security system, so I can't take it for granted that they won't do it again...

A look at the 360's guts

A look at the 360's guts

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