Are there still quality cartoons out there?

Lunchbox · Post by **Lunchbox** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 4:25 pm

Chilly Beach!

Covar · Post by **Covar** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 4:31 pm

fairly odd parents are great.

and x-men was politically correct when they created the second team with storm and colossus(not to mention, starfire and the indian who died in his second issue) x-men has always had a subtext involving racism and by its nature has to be politically correct. doesn't mean it can't be enjoyable. and x-men evolution sucks.

back to dexter's lab: "its the stick!"

Wagh · Post by **Wagh** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 4:37 pm

the adventures of Billy and Mandy

MetaFox · Post by **MetaFox** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 4:44 pm

that_guy wrote: You watch Kim Possible??

Yeah - the Global Justice James Bond cliche parodies in Kim Possible are better than all three Austin Powers movies combined.

Not that that is saying much.

Post by **|darc|** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:59 pm

Butters wrote:
Nyarlathotep wrote:I don't know how new it is seeing as how long it takes the UK to get most american TV, but I thought the Justice League series was pretty good while I was channel hopping a few weekends back
Off topic, but I just got 57 results searching for ":dontknow:" from nyar. Ever think you use that emoticon too much?

bah, can't get it displaying in the quote and not when i say it.

omghax

impetus · Post by **impetus** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:23 pm

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that_guy wrote:The good TMNT doesn't show anymore, it got replaced by some stupid cartoon that wasn't worth watching, kinda like the good X-Men got replaced by X-Men Evolution.

you may not like the TMNT show, which is fine, to each his own. However, your analogy is severely flawed (actually it's correct, but it disproves your point).

Correct, the 90's X-Men toon was good because it loosely followed the comics. X-Men Evolution sucks because it's licensed kid-show garbage. Now fill in those references with "new TMNT show" and "80's TMNT show" and you'll have it about right.

Invisix wrote:The TMNT was remade to make it more politically correct, Baxter is now some black dude.

*sigh*

Baxter has always been "some black dude", long before those cartoons crapped all over the TMNT license. For the record, you've got it backward. The more politically correct 1987 cartoon changed Baxter into a white man to avoid racial sterotypes associated with villains.

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toastman · Post by **toastman** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:41 pm

The new TMNT is more mature, manages coherent story arcs over an extended period of time, and is actually well drawn.
I think people put too much stock in nostalgia. I tried watching Thundercats again. The first couple of episodes are good, the rest are retarded.

impetus · Post by **impetus** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:42 pm

heh, I watched the Transformers movie last week.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:48 pm

impetus wrote:heh, I watched the Transformers movie last week.

I own it.

impetus · Post by **impetus** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:02 pm

me too (until my next trip to the trade shop)

Nyarlathotep · Post by **Nyarlathotep** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 4:21 am

Nyarlathotep wrote:I don't know how new it is seeing as how long it takes the UK to get most american TV, but I thought the Justice League series was pretty good while I was channel hopping a few weekends back

Are you talking about the original Justice League or Justice League Unlimited. Both are pretty good.

I dunno, its in the Warner Bros Batman cartoon 'style' and has batman, superman, green lantern (interestingly they went with Jon Stewart over Kyle Rayner / Guy Gardner / Hal Jordan), Flash, Hawkgirl (another interesting choice they didnt go with hawkman) wonderwoman and martian manhunter

Ender wrote:
impetus wrote:heh, I watched the Transformers movie last week.
I own it.

Arguably Marlon Brandos finest work

compacho · Post by **compacho** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 10:59 am

you know, i caught kim possible the other day for the 1st time and I was surprised at how well written it is for a kid's show. I might just watch it again.

random thoughts:

Gargoyles definately holds a special place it my heart for the quality storyline.
Who's dumb idea was it to cancel batman beyond?
Funny how beavis and butthead holds up so well even today.
Simpsons have gone on for too long now. Its so obvious they're out of ideas.
I can't get enough of those old Looney toons shorts. Very clever.
Batman the animated series was definately one of the best cartoons ever made.
Spiderman (mid 90s). What more can I say?

megaman8x · Post by **megaman8x** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:05 pm

all cartoons suck these days, either there kids shows that basis is nothing but retard humor or recylced japanese cartoons for the early 80-90's(yu yu hackinsho, db gt,ect)

I miss the cartoons they use to have on mtv, the one about the old people, the one with the thing came out of a guys head, and the one with a purple and yellow hero who use to beatup black blob people a lot.

btw has anyone notice everytime they put a new toon on mtv they try to make it more relative to kids (college, highschool ect) and they all get canceled in a few episodes

mankrip · Post by **mankrip** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:34 pm

All cartoons who tries to copy the drawing style from japanese animes suck, with the notable exception of the 90's Batman (forgot the name, was it The Dark Knight?). The people who does these cartoon are idiots, because the reason for why the animes are successfull isn't (only) the drawing style, but the very well conduced plots. However, the plots for these anime-wanabee cartoons are usually like this:

-Something big happens in the life of the protagonists
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Stupid dialogues
-Fighting against enemies
-Retarded joke
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Retarded joke
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Stupid dialogues
-Retarded joke
-New enemies come in
-Stupid dialogues
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Stupid dialogues
-Stupid dialogues
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Retarded joke
-The old enemies are ressurrected
-Stupid dialogues
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Stupid dialogues
-Stupid dialogues
-Retarded joke
-Stupid dialogues

megaman8x · Post by **megaman8x** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:41 pm

Fragger wrote: -Something big happens in the life of the protagonists
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Stupid dialogues
-Fighting against enemies
-Retarded joke
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Retarded joke
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Stupid dialogues
-Retarded joke
-New enemies come in
-Stupid dialogues
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Stupid dialogues
-Stupid dialogues
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Retarded joke
-The old enemies are ressurrected
-Stupid dialogues
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Fighting against enemies
-Stupid dialogues
-Stupid dialogues
-Retarded joke
-Stupid dialogues

You just explained the whole dragaonball z/gt series

area · Post by **area** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:50 pm

Fairly Odd Parents is the most entertaining modern cartoon by far, in my opinion.

MetaFox · Post by **MetaFox** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 3:37 pm

megaman8x wrote:You just explained the whole dragaonball z/gt series

Sounds exactly like Teen Titans to me.

curt_grymala · Post by **curt_grymala** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 6:03 pm

compacho wrote:random thoughts:

Gargoyles definately holds a special place it my heart for the quality storyline.
Who's dumb idea was it to cancel batman beyond?
Funny how beavis and butthead holds up so well even today.
Simpsons have gone on for too long now. Its so obvious they're out of ideas.
I can't get enough of those old Looney toons shorts. Very clever.
Batman the animated series was definately one of the best cartoons ever made.
Spiderman (mid 90s). What more can I say?

I pretty much agree with everything you mentioned there. I'm not a big fan of the Looney Tunes (you spelled toon wrong in that case), but the rest of the things on your list are spot-on, IMHO.

megaman8x wrote:either there kids shows that basis is nothing but retard humor or recylced japanese cartoons for the early 80-90's

Actually, and many of you may think I'm a dork for saying so, but I kind of enjoy watching Yugi-Oh. I realize it's kind of a mishmash of old recycled ideas (Magic: The Gathering, Pokemon, anime, etc.) but I like the show, and it's really one of the few shows on TV (besides the ones on PBS) that I wouldn't mind my kids watching on a regular basis. The story lines are always kind of interesting, and there are always cool morals to each of the stories (usually having to do with trusting in yourself, trusting in your friends, being a good sport, or helping out your fellow man).

Lartrak · Post by **Lartrak** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:50 pm

That's why you see hacked up versions of Tom & Jerry, oh

I remember reading they made the housekeeper, who was a stereotypical black woman, into a WHITE ONE in some version with a new voice. I've never seen it, but it sounds hilarious.

but I kind of enjoy watching Yugi-Oh.

I don't think you're a dork... But, I think Yugi-Oh is one of the worst anime to ever make it to the USA. I actually didn't mind Pokemon too much, it's cheeze-ball nature amused me at times (I used to watch some show that was on after it... Animaniacs or Batman? I forget, but I caught the tail end of a lot of Pokemon episodes because of that).

toastman · Post by **toastman** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 8:24 pm

megaman8x wrote: You just explained the whole dragaonball z/gt series

Damnit, I wanted to make the Dragonball joke.