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Post by OneThirty8 » Fri Dec 17, 2004 4:42 am

I can show you an example where two people who are the same race, and genetic background score much differently on a physical fitness test. The kicker is, the guy who would score better is twice as old as the guy who would keel over after five minutes.

My dad eats right, goes to the gym regularly, doesn't smoke, doesn't drink very often (and only drinks a little bit when he does drink)...

I, on the other hand, don't drink as much as I used to, live on caffeine, cigarettes, fatty foods and cookies, and rarely exercise. Put me up against my dad, who is 29 years older than me, and he'd wipe the floor with my sorry ass. Tests like this don't prove anything. They're too likely to provide skewed information.
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Post by Master Higgins » Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:10 am

I thought you were Hispanic. That doesn't seem relevant, but I was just wondering since you have the CSA sig and are defending white people.
I'm not defending white people, and I am half cajun and half bolivian, my mom is american-bolivian (not ethnically, nationally), daughter of a missionary down there. My grandpa fought in the Civil War on the Southern side, I just have a thing for history and state's rights, I don't like support white nationalism or anything, I just represent my heritage. I pretty much have the sig there to see how long until somebody gets pissed off, it's a pretty controversial thing to have, But personally I think the South would be better off as it's own country rather than the economic broken legs and the bitch of the rest of the USA. :lol:

As for an accurate study, of course an all inclusive study would be entirely accurate right? Well the black population of the united states is less than a 7th the size of the white population, thus justifying why they would have a sampling group a 7th the size, In conclusion- PWNT

I think much of this seems counter intuitive, in that most blacks on TV or in upper class areas, not all but most go that way through athletic achievment, and so if all you ever see is fit black people you think all of them are, which isn't the case. Where as if you've actually lived in black areas, like I used to live in Dutchtown, you'll notice that at least from what I've seen, blacks are about as varied as white, the only difference I saw, is I'd say black males on average have less educated people and more emphasis on exercise, when I lived in Miami and Cherokee, a white hood, I didn't see many kids doing push ups when they were little, yet in Dutchtown I saw that quite a bit. Of course, I was always doing pushups :P
Fat people from any race will always be weaker than non-fat people from any other race.
Ya but why are black people fatter than white people on average, that is prolly a mix of genetics, lack of exercise and culture, thus black people might be weaker since they are more likely to be obese. On top of all of this they even have the advantage of being on average taller than whites, thus making it harder to be obese. Because as we can see facts do point out much higher levels of heart disease, dieabetes, and obesity among their community.
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Post by Zealous zerotype » Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:14 am

Master Higgins wrote:
I thought you were Hispanic. That doesn't seem relevant, but I was just wondering since you have the CSA sig and are defending white people.
I'm not defending white people, and I am half cajun and half bolivian, my mom is american-bolivian (not ethnically, nationally), daughter of a missionary down there. My grandpa fought in the Civil War on the Southern side, I just have a thing for history and state's rights, I don't like support white nationalism or anything, I just represent my heritage. I pretty much have the sig there to see how long until somebody gets pissed off, it's a pretty controversial thing to have, But personally I think the South would be better off as it's own country rather than the economic broken legs and the bitch of the rest of the USA. :lol:

As for an accurate study, of course an all inclusive study would be entirely accurate right? Well the black population of the united states is less than a 7th the size of the white population, thus justifying why they would have a sampling group a 7th the size, In conclusion- PWNT

I think much of this seems counter intuitive, in that most blacks on TV or in upper class areas, not all but most go that way through athletic achievment, and so if all you ever see is fit black people you think all of them are, which isn't the case. Where as if you've actually lived in black areas, like I used to live in Dutchtown, you'll notice that at least from what I've seen, blacks are about as varied as white, the only difference I saw, is I'd say black males on average have less educated people and more emphasis on exercise, when I lived in Miami and Cherokee, a white hood, I didn't see many kids doing push ups when they were little, yet in Dutchtown I saw that quite a bit. Of course, I was always doing pushups :P
Fat people from any race will always be weaker than non-fat people from any other race.
Ya but why are black people fatter than white people on average, that is prolly a mix of genetics, lack of exercise and culture, thus black people might be weaker since they are more likely to be obese. On top of all of this they even have the advantage of being on average taller than whites, thus making it harder to be obese. Because as we can see facts do point out much higher levels of heart disease, dieabetes, and obesity among their community.
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Post by WhtCastle » Fri Dec 17, 2004 2:40 pm

zerotype wrote: Why is having the flag of a bunch of losers converstial?

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Post by bizzle » Fri Dec 17, 2004 2:52 pm

Master Higgins wrote:My grandpa fought in the Civil War on the Southern side
Uh.. the American Civil War? Your grandfather was alive in 1863? RIGHT......

BTW, your signature violates the rules, it's too big.
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Post by InvisixIsLeet » Fri Dec 17, 2004 3:08 pm

I don't understand why the Civil War flag has become a freaking so called racist symbol. It's not a racist symbol, and never has been.

Another thing since I see racist slurs being thrown around... It pisses me off when a black jokes about whites, and it's not considered racist... sorry but it is racist. As far as I am concerned, black folks are more racist than whites in general.

Racism has been around since mankind was created, it's just simply a part of life, something that's there, and there's not a dang thing anyone can do about it. It is not going to leave, anytime soon.
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Post by Wagh » Fri Dec 17, 2004 4:12 pm

Invisix wrote:I don't understand why the Civil War flag has become a freaking so called racist symbol. It's not a racist symbol, and never has been.

Another thing since I see racist slurs being thrown around... It pisses me off when a black jokes about whites, and it's not considered racist... sorry but it is racist. As far as I am concerned, black folks are more racist than whites in general.

Racism has been around since mankind was created, it's just simply a part of life, something that's there, and there's not a dang thing anyone can do about it. It is not going to leave, anytime soon.
Because a lot of people still think the sole purpose of the civil war was to free the slaves :lol:
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Post by MystiK » Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:07 pm

the south wanted slavery to continue, they were racist. So racist, that they probably could have won if they allowed slaves to join the army (or maybe have them as conscripts). But they basically thought that ''those mud people didnt deserve to be equal in rank, or possible even higher in hierarchy god forbid, than the white man!!!'' so....well u know..
Uh.. the American Civil War? Your grandfather was alive in 1863? RIGHT......
lol i didnt even pick up on that
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Post by Lartrak » Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:04 pm

MystiK wrote:the south wanted slavery to continue, they were racist. So racist, that they probably could have won if they allowed slaves to join the army (or maybe have them as conscripts). But they basically thought that ''those mud people didnt deserve to be equal in rank, or possible even higher in hierarchy god forbid, than the white man!!!'' so....well u know..
Uh.. the American Civil War? Your grandfather was alive in 1863? RIGHT......
lol i didnt even pick up on that
They did eventually have them in the army, doing some things. They also eventually acquired a much, much more centralized government, sort of defeating the whole "states rights!!!11) thing, really.
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Post by mankrip » Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:44 am

Master Higgins wrote:why are black people fatter than white people on average, that is prolly a mix of genetics, lack of exercise and culture
Well, I see it more or less like this:

Slavery :arrow: lack of education :arrow: low-paid jobs :arrow: more hours of work :arrow: less time for exercises and less time/money to make/buy decent food.

Plus when you're poor, live surrounded by cultural junk and don't have access to good schools, it's easier to feel that you're doomed, to get depressed and to lose interest in sports and in your own health in general.

So, I still see no reason to claim that genetics have anything to do with it.
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Post by Rand Linden » Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:28 pm

I see less and less reason to claim that slavery had anything to do with it, either.

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Post by MystiK » Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:44 pm

slavery? lol that's ridiculous. So is genetics.
But anyway i don't see any significant difference in weight between black and white people.
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Post by mankrip » Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:07 pm

Looks like I'll have to rewrite it to make it easier for you guys to understand:

Slavery causes lack of education which causes low-paid jobs which causes more hours of work which causes less time for exercises and less time/money to make/buy decent food.

(and by the way, the lack of proper education also causes the lack of good knowledge about nutrition)

Of course I'm not talking about the events in the life of a single person, but about how the social damage caused by slavery still affects our society, despite slavery being something that ended over a century ago.
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Post by Zealous zerotype » Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:31 pm

Mabye it is a saign that people should get over slaveryly that happend here a while ago.And they act liek their the only race that has ever been inslaved,please.
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Post by megaman8x » Sat Dec 18, 2004 3:43 pm

I dont think this has nothing to do with race since its known that all humans are geneticaly the same only things such as pigment in skin, hair texture and other appearance wise. I would say it would have to do with diet and exercise since black people eat more high in fat and unhealty food (which is why blacks are more prone to get diabetes) and also do to the fact that we have different oppinions on what we call thin and or fit. plus due to the fact that blacks exercise less in certain areas(such as running ,ect.)
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Post by Ex-Cyber » Sat Dec 18, 2004 6:17 pm

its known that all humans are geneticaly the same only things such as pigment in skin, hair texture and other appearance wise
Genetic factors for various things are known to vary somewhat among different populations. It's tempting to believe that the differences are strictly skin-deep, but that's wishful thinking and completely dodges the broader issues of analyzing studies for accuracy and using statistics to make judgments about individuals.
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Post by Lartrak » Sat Dec 18, 2004 8:02 pm

Genetic factors for various things are known to vary somewhat among different populations. It's tempting to believe that the differences are strictly skin-deep, but that's wishful thinking and completely dodges the broader issues of analyzing studies for accuracy and using statistics to make judgments about individuals.
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http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic3429.htm

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Post by MystiK » Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:55 pm

Slavery causes lack of education which causes low-paid jobs which causes more hours of work which causes less time for exercises and less time/money to make/buy decent food.
yeah, we get it, but sorry i think that's as nonsensical as this ''study''.
It's like saying, i'm good at Street Fighter, because 1000 years ago one of my ancestors said ''hado-ken''.
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Post by ghostparty » Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:56 pm

zerotype wrote: Why is having the flag of a bunch of losers converstial?
That is the single greatest thing I have ever heard in my life.
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Post by Nick » Sat Dec 18, 2004 10:15 pm

This thread is incredibly stupid.

1. The "study" is ridiculous. The results are skewed, inaccurate, and a laugh. Simply put, fat people will get tired faster than their less heavy counterparts.

2. Please, stop pulling out this slavery BS. Throughout history, people have owned slaves of all ethnicities. The slavery in the US, despite some people's thoughts, is not the only (or worst) slavery in history.
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