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Post by Master Higgins » Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:09 pm

I've wonder a lot lately about those kids, the thing that behooves me tho, is Colorado is not a gang infested state, and then Columbine is a very nice uptown suburb, so where the hell did these kids get their guns, even in a rough town like STL or Hotlanta, it'd be a pain getting a tek9 for a minor, where do you guys think they got those guns? A scam, if so what kind? Talking to sympathizers on the net via forums, but then couldn't the government have found out about that, it is really strange...what do you guys think?
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Post by Roofus » Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:15 pm

the thing that behooves me tho
be?hoove
v. be?hooved, be?hoov?ing, be?hooves
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To be necessary or proper for: It behooves you at least to try.


v. intr.

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Post by Master Higgins » Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:28 pm

Roofus wrote:
the thing that behooves me tho
be?hoove
v. be?hooved, be?hoov?ing, be?hooves
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To be necessary or proper for: It behooves you at least to try.


v. intr.

To be necessary or proper.
Sorry I meant "bewilder" I got it mixed up in my head :P
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Post by Stormwatch » Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:47 pm

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Post by Code-Red » Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:04 pm

Well, I live in Kitchener-Waterloo and considering submachine guns, pistols, and assault rifles arent legal here, I have come across connections to them quite easily. The problems: you have to get your own ammo, and they are extremely expensive ($500-$1000 for a 9mm Glock 17, cheapest HG you can get around here). I've only seen maybe 3 or 4 submachine guns in my area though. In Toronto there is a hell of a lot more of this stuff I bet.
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Post by Veggita2099 » Thu Dec 16, 2004 2:09 am

I went to a gunshow a couple of years ago and they had stuff that a civilian had no need to have. They had bazookas, M4 assault rifles, Anti arcraft mini guns, etc etc. And the only items you had to even show ID on was the NEW items. Anything used you just gave them the cash and walked away.
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Post by Lartrak » Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:21 pm

Veggita2099 wrote:I went to a gunshow a couple of years ago and they had stuff that a civilian had no need to have. They had bazookas, M4 assault rifles, Anti arcraft mini guns, etc etc. And the only items you had to even show ID on was the NEW items. Anything used you just gave them the cash and walked away.
Any explosive weapons are either non-functional or disarmed in a way that can't be rearmed. It's virtually impossible to get them legally now. It's also very, very difficult to legally obtain things like a full auto weapon, such as a minigun (not to mention the cost -$100,000+).
And the only items you had to even show ID on was the NEW items. Anything used you just gave them the cash and walked away.
If that's the case, and they weren't doing background checks, they were breaking the law. There are loopholes in gunshows, but they're not that gaping.
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Post by Zealous zerotype » Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:47 pm

Well it comes down to connections.
I know this guy who i will call "tom"
He basicaly is crazy and works for the military and steals weapons.Hell I cna buy a 50cal sniper rifle from him for 300bucks with some ammo.
He has anti air craft guns in his house,explosives,ect...
So yea connections....
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Post by Roofus » Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:51 pm

zerotype wrote:Well it comes down to connections.
I know this guy who i will call "tom"
He basicaly is crazy and works for the military and steals weapons.Hell I cna buy a 50cal sniper rifle from him for 300bucks with some ammo.
He has anti air craft guns in his house,explosives,ect...
So yea connections....
Falcon's not really in the army.
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Post by Master Higgins » Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:55 pm

Roofus wrote:
zerotype wrote:Well it comes down to connections.
I know this guy who i will call "tom"
He basicaly is crazy and works for the military and steals weapons.Hell I cna buy a 50cal sniper rifle from him for 300bucks with some ammo.
He has anti air craft guns in his house,explosives,ect...
So yea connections....
Falcon's not really in the army.
HAHA, he got discharged for bombing that school anyways
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Post by Zealous zerotype » Thu Dec 16, 2004 9:00 pm

Roofus wrote:
zerotype wrote:Well it comes down to connections.
I know this guy who i will call "tom"
He basicaly is crazy and works for the military and steals weapons.Hell I cna buy a 50cal sniper rifle from him for 300bucks with some ammo.
He has anti air craft guns in his house,explosives,ect...
So yea connections....
Falcon's not really in the army.
Heh.good one..
But seriosuly this gu yis crazy he even stole a what the peopel their liek to call "disco ball" it is some secrect stuff and even opening it can get you in federal prision.
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Post by Chile » Thu Dec 16, 2004 9:58 pm

Lartrak wrote:
Veggita2099 wrote:I went to a gunshow a couple of years ago and they had stuff that a civilian had no need to have. They had bazookas, M4 assault rifles, Anti arcraft mini guns, etc etc. And the only items you had to even show ID on was the NEW items. Anything used you just gave them the cash and walked away.
Any explosive weapons are either non-functional or disarmed in a way that can't be rearmed. It's virtually impossible to get them legally now. It's also very, very difficult to legally obtain things like a full auto weapon, such as a minigun (not to mention the cost -$100,000+).
And the only items you had to even show ID on was the NEW items. Anything used you just gave them the cash and walked away.
If that's the case, and they weren't doing background checks, they were breaking the law. There are loopholes in gunshows, but they're not that gaping.
the part about being hard to get a mini gun is not true. the assault weapon ban has now been lifted[/b]
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Post by 404NotFound » Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:01 pm

Chile wrote:
Lartrak wrote:
Veggita2099 wrote:I went to a gunshow a couple of years ago and they had stuff that a civilian had no need to have. They had bazookas, M4 assault rifles, Anti arcraft mini guns, etc etc. And the only items you had to even show ID on was the NEW items. Anything used you just gave them the cash and walked away.
Any explosive weapons are either non-functional or disarmed in a way that can't be rearmed. It's virtually impossible to get them legally now. It's also very, very difficult to legally obtain things like a full auto weapon, such as a minigun (not to mention the cost -$100,000+).
And the only items you had to even show ID on was the NEW items. Anything used you just gave them the cash and walked away.
If that's the case, and they weren't doing background checks, they were breaking the law. There are loopholes in gunshows, but they're not that gaping.
the part about being hard to get a mini gun is not true. the assault weapon ban has now been lifted[/b]
Did the AWB ever cover a minigun?

Is a mini-gun semi-automatic?
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Post by ghostparty » Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:42 pm

Code-Red wrote:you have to get your own ammo, and they are extremely expensive ($500-$1000 for a 9mm Glock 17, cheapest HG you can get around here)
Well at the time K-Mart still sold ammunition so it probably wasn't too expensive.
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Post by Lartrak » Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:39 am

the part about being hard to get a mini gun is not true. the assault weapon ban has now been lifted
What do miniguns and the assault weapons ban have to do with each other?
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Post by Master Higgins » Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:18 am

Lartrak wrote:
the part about being hard to get a mini gun is not true. the assault weapon ban has now been lifted
What do miniguns and the assault weapons ban have to do with each other?
I think he doesn't understand what an assault rifle is...I fear he's been playing to much goldeneye.
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Post by fatheadpi » Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:08 am

I think he doesn't understand what an assault rifle is...I fear he's been playing to much goldeneye.
Technically, an assualt rifle is supposed to be a fully automatic weapon, IE semi-autos and burst-capable rifles are not truly assualt rifles, but get lumped into this country's massive gun control legislation just the same. Never does much good, but they do it anyways.
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Post by Master Higgins » Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:11 pm

fatheadpi wrote:
I think he doesn't understand what an assault rifle is...I fear he's been playing to much goldeneye.
Technically, an assualt rifle is supposed to be a fully automatic weapon, IE semi-autos and burst-capable rifles are not truly assualt rifles, but get lumped into this country's massive gun control legislation just the same. Never does much good, but they do it anyways.
Ya all you're doing that is turning a bunch of formerly law abiding citizens into outlaws. I don't think any tossed out their assault rifles or stopped purchasing them because of the ban, all that did was create a cash only black market, the federal government is a bunch of stupid fukks.
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Post by Hawq » Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:06 pm

fatheadpi wrote:
I think he doesn't understand what an assault rifle is...I fear he's been playing to much goldeneye.
Technically, an assualt rifle is supposed to be a fully automatic weapon, IE semi-autos and burst-capable rifles are not truly assualt rifles, but get lumped into this country's massive gun control legislation just the same. Never does much good, but they do it anyways.
America has gun control? since when? :P
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Post by fatheadpi » Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:59 pm

America has gun control? since when?
Well, gun control means using both hands, so I'd say since the invention of marksmanship.

As for the law-abiding-citizen screwing legislature about guns called "gun control", it's debateable. They first appeared in the 30's, around 1932 IIRC, but gained support in the late 60's, again around 1968 IIRC.

Now, as far as effective crime legislation goes, we're still waiting for some of that. Got any over on your side of the pond, Hawq?
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