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Post by Matisfaction » Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:47 pm

This is all very weird, too weird in a way.
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Post by Amadeus Zull » Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:33 pm

gamedudex2 wrote:they cant really prove that he did it so easily, but either way of he committed suicide he will automatically get the blame, even if he didnt kill them or all of them.
I told you he did it. Sick event, press conference just said he placed Bibles by their heads after he killed them.

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ATLANTA (AP) -- Pro wrestler Chris Benoit strangled his wife and smothered his son before hanging himself in his weight room, a law enforcement official close to the investigation told The Associated Press on Tuesday.
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Post by Code-Red » Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:34 pm

Holy fuck, its ZULL!!!!

Edit: Nm, just checked post count. Ill need to see some great porn from you before I start unraveling the BS flag.

Edit 2: Benoit is a fucking scumbag. Hope he becomes Saddam & Satan's new play toy.
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Post by Amadeus Zull » Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:45 pm

This will really hurt the business. The roid scandal is about to erupt again.

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Post by gamedudex2 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:16 pm

the thing is did he do it on purpose, i mean the wife part, he could have by accident, then just didnt know wtf to do. but the killing of his son part i dunno wtf to say, maybe he didnt know what to do, and did it, dunno, himself i can almost understand, he was always a proud type, i dont think his pride would allow him to wanna live with what he has done.
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Post by Amadeus Zull » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:25 pm

Putting the Bibles by their bodies shows he was a nut. I dunno, but he seemed liked a cold person.
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Post by gamedudex2 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:20 pm

Amadeus Zull wrote:Putting the Bibles by their bodies shows he was a nut. I dunno, but he seemed liked a cold person.
if it was roids and stuff i dunno if id blame benoit 100% wwe is a major blame as they pretty much put a gun to the wrestlers head s and force them to if they wanna make a living in their professo. look at rey mysterio he is or was on roids, i guess he might get off them now that eddie and benoit died.

wcw rey was skinny, wwe ripped and hes only 5"3-5"6

no proff benoit did it on purpose, killing his wife.

the son thats a dif story but could be justified.

its possible him and nancy got ina heated arugument that got physical, and he strangled her but not inteding to kill her, with him being hyped up on roids, and naturally hes very strong roids even more so. he then couldnt deal with what eh has done, but in the heat of the moment took care of his son, sinc emaybe he though since he losed his mother he would be fucked up and also wouldnt be with a father if benoit gets charged with murder. so he did the only thing he felt he could do.

he comes down from the roids and pain killers and maybe booze . he relizes what eh has done, and since hes always been a proud man he couldnt take it, even if he would be able to get cleared of the crime by some chance, he knows backstage it would be a diff story. so he kills himself, but before he does, he lays a bible by his wife and son, (maybe hes very religious) it could mean hey, they are of no wrong doing, i shall take the blame myself, let these two rest in peace.

i wonders if he made a death note or anything.


i wonder what all of those text messages were the wrestlers received, that could be more of a clue.
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Post by gamedudex2 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:46 pm

WARNING SIGNS THAT SOMETHING WAS WRONG WITH CHRIS BENOIT
By: Bob Ryder
6/26/2007 5:08:55 PM

In speaking with close friends and confidants of Chris Benoit contacted this afternoon, apparently there were some warning signs that something was wrong with Benoit.

Some of the information learned by 1Wrestling.com by colleagues and friends that did not want to be quoted:

"This wasn't roid rage, this was insanity. Roid rage doesn't last for 48 hours. There were signs that something was wrong. Stories have emerged that a year ago he became paranoid and believed he was being followed. He wouldn't let Nancy leave the house because he believed someone was out to get them."

“Chris hated religion. He didn't believe in it. I cannot comprehend him putting bibles by the bodies. I am shocked.”

In addition, 1Wrestling has learned that sources close to Nancy are reporting that she had a safety deposit box with evidence of past rages and that authorities should check the box if anything ever happened to her.
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Post by gamedudex2 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:35 pm

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Benoit Update: What The Text Messages Said, More
Date Added: June 26, 2007
Story By: Will Hengelbrok

(The following was written by Ryan Clark)

There were apparently some warning signs that something was wrong with Benoit.Sources close to Nancy are reporting that she had a safety deposit box with evidence of past rages and that authorities should check the box if anything ever happened to her.

One of the text messages sent by Chris Benoit early Sunday morning said "back door open, dogs have been fed", referring to the sliding glass doors in the back of his home. No one was quite sure what to make of it, but he wasn't reachable afterward for clarification.

ABCNews.com's headline story has been updated with the following: "Her hands were bound together, her feet were bound together, and there was a little blood over her face," District Attorney Scott Ballard told ABC News in an interview after the press conference. "The medical examiner found bruising on the small of her back and bruising on the front of her body consistent with being crushed up against the floor."

CBS News has obtained a copy of the 2003 restraining order filed by Nancy Benoit against her husband Chris Benoit. In the protective order, Nancy alleges that the wrestler committed “acts of violence,” and that she feared for the safety of herself and her son Daniel.

Apparently Bubba The Love Sponge broke the Chris Benoit story on Monday. He was able to get confirmation of the story from Andrew “Test” Martin. Bubba was unable to contact his good friend Hulk Hogan for confirmation.

Brian Lawler will be a guest on CNN's Anderson Cooper Tonight at 10pm ET.
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Post by CupNoodle » Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:25 pm

Good riddance.

Sorry to hear about the family, though.
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Post by gamedudex2 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:01 pm

wwe is a major blame, i wouldnt put it all on benoit. if its roid its very much vinces fault. (even if roids arent found in his system, it can be roid withdrawl, because thats worse than when its actually in the system) vince has hard on for big guys, look at wwe history. everyone who goes to wwe has problems with roids. kurt angle asked for his release, wwe granted it cause they didnt want another eddie gurrero situation to happen. angle is clean now and in better shape.


look at rey mysterio he is a major roid user. in wcw was skinny wwe pretty ripped.

wwe needs to ban roids. they have a drug policy, but they dont ban everyone who uses drugs. randy orton is a perfect example, hes tested posiitive so many times for roids and other drugs yet is never suspended. wwe needs to ban all drugs in the wwe, and do tests via 3rd party every show tv ppv and house shows, as well as random tests. anyone test positive should be forced into rehab on the spot. same with alcohol although that would only result ina fine, untila few times say 3-4 times then forced rehab. if they refuse rehab, they dont get fired, but suspended without pay til their contract runs out, which could be for a year -20 years depending on their contract. which means they can not make any tv appearences, be it wwe, pro sports moves tv shows , do public appearences. so they are fucked. also place detailed report of everyone who tests positive on wwe.com homepage.
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Post by Zealous zerotype » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:45 pm

It is their fault they do roids, no one elses. Take some damn responsibility, sheesh.
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Post by Lunchbox » Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:07 pm

gamedudex2 wrote: the son thats a dif story but could be justified.

Are you fucking serious? How is killing your 7 year old son EVER justified? Really now...



New info regarding the roid rage theory:
1wrestling.com wrote: WARNING SIGNS THAT SOMETHING WAS WRONG WITH CHRIS BENOIT
By: Bob Ryder
6/26/2007 5:08:55 PM

In speaking with close friends and confidants of Chris Benoit contacted this afternoon, apparently there were some warning signs that something was wrong with Benoit.

Some of the information learned by 1Wrestling.com by colleagues and friends that did not want to be quoted:

"This wasn't roid rage, this was insanity. Roid rage doesn't last for 48 hours. There were signs that something was wrong. Stories have emerged that a year ago he became paranoid and believed he was being followed. He wouldn't let Nancy leave the house because he believed someone was out to get them."

“Chris hated religion. He didn't believe in it. I cannot comprehend him putting bibles by the bodies. I am shocked.” (Note: We have been contacted by other friends of Benoit who say he had recently become a religious person)

In addition, 1Wrestling has learned that sources close to Nancy are reporting that she had a safety deposit box with evidence of past rages and that authorities should check the box if anything ever happened to her.

Interesting to note since a lot of people are intent on playing the blame game on people like Vince (as usual :roll: ) when clearly Benoit was a total nutbar. Lets not get our in-ring respect for the man obscure our thoughts on what has happened here.
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Post by gamedudex2 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:29 pm

Lunchbox wrote:
gamedudex2 wrote: the son thats a dif story but could be justified.

Are you fucking serious? How is killing your son EVER justified? Really now...



New info regarding the roid rage theory:
1wrestling.com wrote: WARNING SIGNS THAT SOMETHING WAS WRONG WITH CHRIS BENOIT
By: Bob Ryder
6/26/2007 5:08:55 PM

In speaking with close friends and confidants of Chris Benoit contacted this afternoon, apparently there were some warning signs that something was wrong with Benoit.

Some of the information learned by 1Wrestling.com by colleagues and friends that did not want to be quoted:

"This wasn't roid rage, this was insanity. Roid rage doesn't last for 48 hours. There were signs that something was wrong. Stories have emerged that a year ago he became paranoid and believed he was being followed. He wouldn't let Nancy leave the house because he believed someone was out to get them."

“Chris hated religion. He didn't believe in it. I cannot comprehend him putting bibles by the bodies. I am shocked.” (Note: We have been contacted by other friends of Benoit who say he had recently become a religious person)

In addition, 1Wrestling has learned that sources close to Nancy are reporting that she had a safety deposit box with evidence of past rages and that authorities should check the box if anything ever happened to her.

Interesting to note since a lot of people are intent on playing the blame game on people like Vince (as usual :roll: ) when clearly Benoit was a total nutbar. Lets not get our in-ring respect for the man obscure our thoughts on what has happened here.
rod rage lasts longer than 48 hours dont forget widthdrawl peroids. he prob has no drugs in his system but he was taking them, and thats wwes fault. vinc e makes all wrestlers do them, itsa requirement, and has always been in the wwe since the 80s. vince doesnt directly do it since its a publically traded company these days, but hes behind it. many wrestlers admited that vince gave them roids.

in the early 90s vince was saved during his trial. hulk hogan almost put him in jail for years.
vince was lucky hogan tried to protect his own self,. vince was worried since hogan left for wcw and would screw vince, because all hogan had to do was say yes, and that = 100% proof in that case., but hogan chosse not to. hogan later admited that their was steroid use, but to protect him and future money from wwf he didn't.


look at all big wwe stars, that vinces pushes hard on people, everyone was and is a roider.

randy orton failed numerous wwe drug test while testing positive for roids, and other drugs, yet he gets a golden pass. while lower card guys get fired.


now some people have used roids in the past for medical means

ric flair in the late 70s early 80s, due to the plane crash that broke his back.

piper admitted to using roids, he always had serious roid rage in ring at times, this caused him to do severe dammage to his hip over the eyars and in the early 90s he had a hip replacement.

rey mysterio is a heavy roid user, in wcw he wasnt on roids, but once in wwe it was a requirement if he wanted to be a star.


the main thing hurting a lot of wrestlers is wwe has 0 competition right now, both ratings wise, and moneywise. if a wrestler intends to be a star its either wwe and make millions or indys and be lucky to make $50 a show.

tna most guys in tna only make like $300-500 a week only the major stars make big money.

tna saved kurt angle though.

christian left because of the schedule. and left a $400,000 downside guarantee(meaning thats the min he can make even if he doesnt work at all) and now has a $40,000 downside in tna.. undercard guys have no guaranteed pay, they only get 300-500 a week if they work those shows. only major name stars make money.

kurt angle and sting are tnas highest paid with a $600-700k a year guarantee.

stings a special case though, he could go to wwe and make millions if he wanted to, but he never wanted to, he doesnt like wwes direction or risk of a lifestyle change.

until tna becomes a major player wwe will always be land of the big roided men.


look at gene snitsky in the wwe, he is obviously on roids, and vince is pushing him to the top. all close ups point to it, check his elbows and his zit problem .
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gamedudex2 wrote: the son thats a dif story but could be justified.

Are you fucking serious? How is killing your 7 year old son EVER justified? Really now...


by justified if it was that he was influenced by roids or another substance, he didnt know he was doing it, and while in that state of mind, he could done it out of love, because he didnt want the kid to grow up with out his parents. when his mind became clear he realised what he did and hung himself. . but if its roids i put very little blame on benoit and majority on vince. its vinces job to protect the wwes best interest, yet he has learned nothing since eddie died. and several others.
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Post by |darc| » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:10 am

gamedudex2 wrote:by justified if it was that he was influenced by roids or another substance, he didnt know he was doing it, and while in that state of mind, he could done it out of love, because he didnt want the kid to grow up with out his parents. when his mind became clear he realised what he did and hung himself. . but if its roids i put very little blame on benoit and majority on vince. its vinces job to protect the wwes best interest, yet he has learned nothing since eddie died. and several others.
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Post by pavelbure » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:22 am

i wouldnt put the blame squarely on the wwe as far as the roids issue goes. you go into any gym, and you'll see a lot of the weightlifters there are taking some sort of drug, whether it be legal or not.
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Post by gamedudex2 » Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:29 pm

pavelbure wrote:i wouldnt put the blame squarely on the wwe as far as the roids issue goes. you go into any gym, and you'll see a lot of the weightlifters there are taking some sort of drug, whether it be legal or not.
ya but benoit never did roids until he was in the wwe though. look at his body from early career til wwe. it wasnt a job requirment until he was in the wwe.
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Post by Lunchbox » Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:28 pm

gamedudex2 wrote:
pavelbure wrote:i wouldnt put the blame squarely on the wwe as far as the roids issue goes. you go into any gym, and you'll see a lot of the weightlifters there are taking some sort of drug, whether it be legal or not.
ya but benoit never did roids until he was in the wwe though. look at his body from early career til wwe. it wasnt a job requirment until he was in the wwe.
Except it isn't a "job requirement" like you insist on saying, and the WWE does perform drug tests. They even released a statement saying Benoit was clean as of April. Granted they're finding all sorts of shit at his house now but I still wouldn't blame the WWE.
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Post by gamedudex2 » Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:11 pm

Lunchbox wrote:
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pavelbure wrote:i wouldnt put the blame squarely on the wwe as far as the roids issue goes. you go into any gym, and you'll see a lot of the weightlifters there are taking some sort of drug, whether it be legal or not.
ya but benoit never did roids until he was in the wwe though. look at his body from early career til wwe. it wasnt a job requirment until he was in the wwe.
Except it isn't a "job requirement" like you insist on saying, and the WWE does perform drug tests. They even released a statement saying Benoit was clean as of April. Granted they're finding all sorts of shit at his house now but I still wouldn't blame the WWE.
but drug test dont prove anything. if he has asubscription to any drugs its not counted. also since hes a major star its not counted eithe
they only mention drugs if you arent a major star, benoit is a major star so he wouldnt have to worry.


randy orton failed several drug tests over the past 2 years, til recently. several times for steroids, and some for cocaine, he didnt get fired but got promoted. chris masters failed drug test for roids, and got rehab, why because he wasnt a major player, now hes getting a psh and has failed a recent drug test, but isnt getting in trouble, becuase hes getting a bigger spot on smackdown.



the wwe drug test policay isnt really strict about anything even roids, its pretty much a joke. wwe did one a while ago in the 90s, but had to void it because it would affect storylines, same with the current one.

vince has personally handed several wrestlers steroids on several occasions pre offering public stock in the company. and even then, aslo vince was and is a steroid user himself. same with his son in law triple h. hes been off them for over a year though, as you can tell by the gutt triple h now has. but just watch him make his return all ripped again.


bobby lashley is a roid user, rey mysterio as well. rey is a perfect example that roids is a job requirement in the wwe.

look at him pre wwe, skinny, look at him wwe, ripped compared. the guys way to big for his height, and because of the roids hes a shell of his former self, no wear near as athletic, because of him bulking up so much.
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Post by pavelbure » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:27 am

this story get weirder by the day.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287194,00.html
Web Time Stamps Indicate Nancy Benoit's Death Reported on Web at Least 13 Hours Before Police Found Bodies in Her Home

Thursday , June 28, 2007
By Blane Bachelor



An anonymous user operating a computer traced to Stamford, Conn. — home to World Wrestling Entertainment — posted an entry to pro wrestler Chris Benoit's biography on Wikipedia.org announcing the death of his wife Nancy at least 13 hours before police in suburban Atlanta said they found her body along with her husband's and that of their 7-year-old son, FOXNews.com has learned.

Reporters informed the Fayette County district attorney's office of the posting Thursday, and the agency forwarded the information to sheriff's investigators, who are looking into it, a legal assistant said in an e-mail to the AP.

WWE attorney Jerry McDevitt said that to his knowledge, no one at the WWE knew Nancy Benoit was dead before her body was found Monday afternoon. Text messages released by officials show that messages from Chris Benoit's cell phone were being sent to co-workers a few hours after the Wikipedia posting.

WWE employees are given WWE e-mail addresses, McDevitt said, though he did not know whether Chris Benoit had one.

"I have no idea who posted this," McDevitt said. "It's at least possible Chris may have sent some other text message to someone that we're unaware of. We don't know if he did. The phone is in the possession of authorities."

Employees at Wikipedia.org said the posting went live on their site on Monday at 12:01 a.m. Eastern Standard Time. Police, however, said they found the bodies Monday at 2:30 p.m. EDT.

The posting reads: “Chris Benoit was replaced by [Johnny Nitro] for the ECW Championship match at Vengeance, as Benoit was not there due to personal issues, stemming from the death of his wife Nancy.” According to a Wikipedia.org report published after FOXNews.com made inquiries, the edit was reversed just under one hour later with the comment:

"Need a reliable source. Saying that his wife died is a pretty big statement, you need to back it up with something."

The posting apparently was made in reference to Benoit's scheduled appearance on Sunday night at an Extreme Championship Wrestling event in Texas.

An employee from Wikipedia.org told FOXNews.com that he called and left a message with investigative authorities in Fayetteville, Ga., at around 11 a.m. EDT on Tuesday, after the posting was brought to the attention of the St. Petersburg, Fla.-based Web site.

“I chat with other editors on IRC — Internet relay chat — and somebody pointed it out to me on a relay chat and that it came from a Stamford connection, and that it took place at midnight Eastern Standard Time on Monday morning,” said Wikipedia.org volunteer coordinator Cary Bass. “I called and left a message with the police department.”

The computer-generated time and date stamp of the Benoit entry are listed as 4:01, 25 June 2007. Wikipedia.org lists its entries according to Universal Time, also known as Greenwich Mean Time.

Further investigation, according to Wikipedia.com, shows that one hour after the first edit reversion, another anonymous edit by 125.63.148.173 using unwiredAustralia.com.au, a wireless Internet service provider, was made adding about the aforementioned personal issues: "which according to several pro wrestling websites is attributed to the passing of Benoit's wife, Nancy."

That edit was reverted less than 20 minutes later, with the following comment: "Saying 'several pro wrestling websites' is still not reliable information." The second edit was made by a computer in Australia from a wireless network, according to Wikipedia.org.

A message left by FOXNews.com with Lt. Tommy Pope of the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department was not immediately returned.

Investigators so far have ruled the Benoit killings as a double homicide-suicide.

Wikipedia.org claims to be one of the largest reference Web sites, and is written collaboratively by users from around the world. Approved users can make submissions and change entries that are posted on the site almost immediately. Bass said the site is constantly monitored to correct inaccuracies.

Bass said when there is a high-profile case, such as the Benoit killlings, Wikipedia.org limits postings to registered users, which is now indicated at the top of the Benoit entry. According to the listed history on the Benoit entry, the computer used to post the 12:01 a.m. entry had a Stamford, Conn., Internet Protocol — or IP — address, a numeric designation that is assigned to every computer with an Internet connection, and that same address has been used to post about a dozen other messages on the site, dating back to May 16, 2007.

In related news, FOXNews.com also has learned, through widely posted Web reports, that former pro wrestler Sherri Martel, who was found dead on June 15, was linked to former wrestler Kevin Sullivan — ex-husband of Nancy Benoit.

Click here to read more about the death of Sherri Martel.

Martel, who had a reputation as one of the top managers in pro wrestling, was found dead at her mother’s home in near Birmingham, Ala., on June 15. She was 49.

Investigators, who have not yet determined Martel's cause of death, say foul play is not suspected but that Martel did not die of natural causes.
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