DCEmu Decides the 2016 Presidential Election

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Who gets to do the presidentin' next?

Ben Carson
1
6%
Bernie Sanders
6
33%
Bobby Jindal
0
No votes
Carly Fiorina
0
No votes
Chris Christie
0
No votes
Donald Trump
2
11%
George Pataki
0
No votes
Hillary Clinton
1
6%
Jeb! Bush
0
No votes
Jim Gilmore
0
No votes
Jim Webb
0
No votes
John Kasich
0
No votes
Lindsey Graham
0
No votes
Marco Rubio
0
No votes
Martin O'Malley
0
No votes
Mike Huckabee
0
No votes
Rand Paul
1
6%
Rick Santorum
0
No votes
Ted Cruz
0
No votes
Kang
0
No votes
Kodos
3
17%
some other jerk (please specify)
1
6%
eh, screw it
0
No votes
we're not all U.S. citizens, asshole
3
17%
 
Total votes: 18
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DCEmu Decides the 2016 Presidential Election

Post by DaMadFiddler » Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:16 pm

Well, we have a crap-ton of mostly terrible candidates to choose from (which Auto Correct keeps changing to "cartoon," and I'm rather inclined to let it).

Do you know who you're voting for?

What swayed you?
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Re: DCEmu Decides the 2016 Presidential Election

Post by cube_b3 » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:21 am

It is early to decide who should get the vote.

Hillary was in the lead and now Bernie is climbing on the democratic side. Hillary and Bernie have different points. I like Hillary's stronger stance on gun control where as Sanders has advocated minimum wage to $15. $3 more than Hillary.

Then we have the republican side which is being dominated by The Donald. Who is really owning the whole unapologetic asshole approach which people find refreshing I guess.

Lastly, we're not all U.S. Citizens asshole :P
But hopefully I will have my passport by August, so this may be the first time I vote in my life. When I came of age I skipped Pakistan's last election cause I was not mentally of age. Then I was in the U.S. so I couldn't vote... If I am in PK in November I might not be able to vote again.....
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Re: DCEmu Decides the 2016 Presidential Election

Post by |darc| » Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:38 am

Jim Webb was the only candidate I liked on the Democratic side, but he dropped out. Despite disagreeing with Bernie Sanders, I respected him because I believe he is genuine--until he let Hillary off the hook for her email scandal.

On the Republican side, I like Rand Paul. Everyone else is borderline lunatic.
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Re: DCEmu Decides the 2016 Presidential Election

Post by cube_b3 » Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:40 am

Was that email scandal really that big of a deal?
Was it even a deal?

I liked that, he did that cause it was just one point that she was getting grilled on over an over.
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Post by Jeeba Jabba » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:42 am

Ben Carson.

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Post by Christuserloeser » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:00 am

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Re: DCEmu Decides the 2016 Presidential Election

Post by Chilly Willy » Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:36 am

cube_b3 wrote:Was that email scandal really that big of a deal?
Was it even a deal?
If she were one of the peons, she'd have gotten jail time for it. In fact, the last person to keep gov email on her personal account was charged with treason. The lightest punishment others have gotten for what she did was being fired and blacklisted from gov work. It's HUGE deal... if you're not The Man.

Anywho, I voted "someone else", and that someone is Lawrence Lessig. If the choice comes down to Bernie verses Trump or Bush, I'd vote Bernie. If it came down to Hillary vs Trump or Bush, I'd abstain. I've voted third party for more than two decades, and voting just doesn't matter. No matter who's elected, we the people will get screwed anyway.
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Re: DCEmu Decides the 2016 Presidential Election

Post by |darc| » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:23 am

cube_b3 wrote:Was that email scandal really that big of a deal?
Was it even a deal?

I liked that, he did that cause it was just one point that she was getting grilled on over an over.
Um, she should be in prison right now.

And she has the fucking gall to talk about throwing the book at Edward Snowden in the same debate she tries to pretend that criticism of her own data leaking is just those evil Republicans trying to derail her magical campaign of unicorns, rainbows, sunshine, and endless happiness. And they all must just hate her because she's a woman! :roll:
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Re: DCEmu Decides the 2016 Presidential Election

Post by Eviltaco64X » Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:29 pm

No option for anarchy? Then Kodos. Being ruled over like serfs by a sophisticated alien race would be better than to be ruled over by my own kind (also, Kang is pro-slavery, Kodos only partially agrees).
|darc| wrote: And she has the fucking gall to talk about throwing the book at Edward Snowden in the same debate she tries to pretend that criticism of her own data leaking is just those evil Republicans trying to derail her magical campaign of unicorns, rainbows, sunshine, and endless happiness. And they all must just hate her because she's a woman! :roll:
I remember seeing that, it triggered an insta-"shuuuuuuuut the fuck up, are you for real?"

Paul and Sanders are ok. Economically, I disagree with Sanders' approach, but he is more genuine than most politicians and speaks truth on many things that most of his competition completely ignores and that is respectable. In our current state, a libertarian shift would create a new generation of aristocrats, a socialist shift would help to grandfather the existing generation of aristocrats (no amount of regulation or trust-busting has ever ridden the world of the Rockefeller's, but it has helped to increasingly barricade their position of influence and place in the world as untouchable ground).
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Re: DCEmu Decides the 2016 Presidential Election

Post by Christuserloeser » Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:27 am



Finally had time to watch some debates and interviews with Bernie Sanders. The guy just totally blew me away. He has chuzpe and passion.
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Re: DCEmu Decides the 2016 Presidential Election

Post by DaMadFiddler » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:01 pm

Important viewing:


This is part one of a six-part interview, but the whole thing is very much worth watching. Here's a link to all six parts in a playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCnrQZb ... xBqEL4Iv9A
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Post by I.M. Weasel » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:28 pm

Its entertaining how lukewarm the real constituency(sp) of the dems is about hillary.
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Re: DCEmu Decides the 2016 Presidential Election

Post by |darc| » Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:00 pm

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Re: DCEmu Decides the 2016 Presidential Election

Post by DaMadFiddler » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:46 am

Okay, last night was just absurd. The smug asshole who looks like a cartoon villain and is despised by his own party wins on the Republican side (oh, wait--there are TWO of those?), and the Democratic side can't even make up its damn mind.

Remind me why Iowa gets to go first, again?
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Re: DCEmu Decides the 2016 Presidential Election

Post by Eviltaco64X » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:03 am

It was Iowa that gave Obama his first major boost over Clinton in 08, right? The press glorified it as an epicenter of progress and political innovation back then. (It also voted for Huckabee)

Anyway, the generation gap between Sanders and Clinton supporters is pretty remarkable. If there ever were a time where just a handful of votes would have made a difference.. Was that a coin with 2 heads or something?

Sanders will probably take NH and a good majority (if not all) of New England. Lots of Libertarians and An-Caps up there, so Rand Paul will also probably get a decent number of the vote too. NH will probably have his highest turnout, then he will slowly burn-out (given his dad's track record). My guess is he will probably end up coming in 2nd or 3rd behind Trump/Cruz.
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Post by DaMadFiddler » Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:26 am

Eviltaco64X wrote:Sanders will probably take NH and a good majority (if not all) of New England. Lots of Libertarians and An-Caps up there, so Rand Paul will also probably get a decent number of the vote too.
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Post by S. Thompson » Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:53 am

I like the ideas of Bernie Sanders. He seems to have good intentions and the people in-mind. I also applaud him for totally avoiding corporate donations and wanting to make the big boys pay up their fair share (sorry, GE).

That being said, using words like socialism in your campaign seems like political suicide given the nature of American culture at present. Hell, people jump to calling Obama a socialist every chance they get and rarely even stop to analyze the definition of the word or likely listen to the Bernie's intended usage.

I think Clinton will likely end up with the nomination and ultimately become president mostly because of how terrible all of the GOP candidates are. Seriously never thought I'd think someone like John McCain or Mitt Romney would be a good candidate by comparison, but these guys are all clowns. The GOP has a basically become a platform of hatred and fear-mongering.

...just my two cents anyway... ;)

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Re: DCEmu Decides the 2016 Presidential Election

Post by DaMadFiddler » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:21 pm

No, I think that sums up the basic situation pretty well.

I'm still voting for Sanders in the primary, though, because fuck self-fulfilling prophecies.

And I think it's long past time for us to start undoing the right's past several decades of demonizing the very concept of being liberal or progressive, and start changing the conversation about what government is and should be: a means of organizing and executing the people's will, with the aid of experts, to promote the best interests of the people. Sometimes government is corrupt. Sometimes it is inefficient. Sometimes it is misguided. But always, its core purpose is to organize and exercise the needs, rights, and will of the people. To get rid of government is to remove the people's ability to guide and adjust their own society.

It's always struck me as funny how the people most outspoken about "keeping the government out of our lives" are the same people who'd leave us at the complete (and much more predatory) mercy of unfettered, unaccountable corporate interests.

There's a REASON regulations and red tape exist, and peak efficiency isn't alway desirable. Efficiency comes at the expense of safety, thoroughness, and accountability; it's a balancing act.
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Re: DCEmu Decides the 2016 Presidential Election

Post by DaMadFiddler » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:34 pm

Or, in short:

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Re: DCEmu Decides the 2016 Presidential Election

Post by |darc| » Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:31 pm

S. Thompson wrote:That being said, using words like socialism in your campaign seems like political suicide given the nature of American culture at present. Hell, people jump to calling Obama a socialist every chance they get and rarely even stop to analyze the definition of the word or likely listen to the Bernie's intended usage.
That might work out to Sanders's favor, actually. If the right keeps calling Obama a socialist, people who support Obama might not think twice about pulling the lever for a self-labelled actual socialist.
DaMadFiddler wrote:And I think it's long past time for us to start undoing the right's past several decades of demonizing the very concept of being liberal or progressive
I'm not saying this doesn't happen, but the left employs the exact same tactics. "Social justice" and feminism have become their own punch line at this point.
DaMadFiddler wrote:start changing the conversation about what government is and should be
This is not what the government is, and it's your idea of what it should be. Not that I'm saying your opinion is invalid or wrong, but if you want to change the conversation so that the baseline is that the government is what you think it should be, then you are employing the same tactics that you are hating on the right for (i.e. ignoring that your viewpoints are opinions and then trashing anyone who disagrees as being removed from reality).
DaMadFiddler wrote:To get rid of government is to remove the people's ability to guide and adjust their own society.
That is a laughably narrow view of what a society is.
DaMadFiddler wrote:It's always struck me as funny how the people most outspoken about "keeping the government out of our lives" are the same people who'd leave us at the complete (and much more predatory) mercy of unfettered, unaccountable corporate interests.
Sure, sometimes private entities are corrupt. Sometimes they are inefficient. Sometimes they are misguided.

But in most markets there are competitors to choose from, creating a way to vote for your desires with your dollar.

See, you can't just ignore the problems with government and give it the benefit of the doubt and turn around and trash the private sector. It's not making a fair comparison.
DaMadFiddler wrote:All Cats Are Libertarians Completely Dependent On Others But Fully Convinced Of Their Own Independence
I'm unfamiliar with this artist but this looks like much more of a commentary on cats than on libertarians. If anyone thinks that being "completely dependent on others" is an acceptable view of normal American life then they are truly lost.
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