Sega Saturn Emulator.........

gemberland2004 · Post by **gemberland2004** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:18 pm

Will there ever be a Sega Saturn Emulator because i have a full 32 Bit Playable Virtua Fighter 2 on my Cpu and I wanted to convert it to the Dreamcast

Can someone let me know something?

Thanks

Post by **BlueCrab** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:32 pm

There is a Sega Saturn Emulator in its beginning stages. Its called Yabause-dc. It doesn't play any games, and is extremely slow.

That being said, I don't know when it will be any faster, nor does any one else (I am the guy who ported it to the DC), nor do I know when it'll play Virtua Fighter 2. One day, hopefully it'll be at least playable.

dj898 · Post by **dj898** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:47 pm

maybe when we have Pentium XXIV with 300GHZ speed...
seriously I don't think anyone has figured out how Saturn ticks fully...

we don't even know what kind of copy protection Sega used for Saturn disc...
saying that there's unofficial emulator that runs some of commercial titles at bearable speed assuming you have very powerful system and all...

cheers

gemberland2004 · Post by **gemberland2004** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:25 am

Got Damn How did I know that's wild

you know how hard it is to find Saturn Systems let alone the games

Well Im jus gonna have to go buy one then forget it

Matisfaction · Post by **Matisfaction** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:49 am

gemberland2004 wrote:you know how hard it is to find Saturn Systems let alone the games

Try ebay, there are plenty on there, as well as plenty of Saturn games, you can even find the more rarer titles but expect to pay a bit for them.

dj898 · Post by **dj898** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:17 pm

I wouldn't say "bit" more like "a lot" unless you consider $40-70 per title is bit... :p

Segata Sanshiro · Post by **Segata Sanshiro** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:56 am

I got Panzer Dragoon RPG from Play Asia (brand new-sealed) for $30, thats very cheap, considering that PD RPG is one of the rarest and best games out there.

Matisfaction · Post by **Matisfaction** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:55 am

dj898 wrote:I wouldn't say "bit" more like "a lot" unless you consider $40-70 per title is bit... :p

you can pick up a lot of decent games up for less than that. mostly jap exclusives and the few rare US titles tend to hover between the $40-$70 mark, then you have your ridiculously priced titles. Spose it is cheaper for me paying in ?'s but Saturn games are not really hard to find.

gemberland2004 · Post by **gemberland2004** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:44 am

Yea i was on ebay yesterday and saw A couple Jap Imports a couple king of fighters and Mearvel Vs. games

but when i saw that they were 50 and 60 dollaz i said hmmmm maybe another time!

Strapping Scherzo · Post by **Strapping Scherzo** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:56 am

I'm a smacktard. Seriously. Back in the day, I had a Saturn with the Netlink and I frigging sold it. I was just such a tard teenager. Running around, partying, smoking things, drinking stuff, humping holes. Man.

Matisfaction · Post by **Matisfaction** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:09 am

gemberland2004 wrote:Yea i was on ebay yesterday and saw A couple Jap Imports a couple king of fighters and Mearvel Vs. games

but when i saw that they were 50 and 60 dollaz i said hmmmm maybe another time!

You can get SFA & SFA2 pretty cheap, SF collection is well worth getting (you get SSFII, SSFIIX & SFA2 Gold), Most of the SNK fighters are not bad either. also dead or alive is pretty sweet

It's stuff like Vampire Saviour, SFA3 & Marvel V's Capcom games etc. that demand high Prices.

Chainfist · Post by **Chainfist** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:35 pm

[quote="Matisfaction"][quote="gemberland2004"]Yea i was on ebay yesterday and saw A couple Jap Imports a couple king of fighters and Mearvel Vs. games

but when i saw that they were 50 and 60 dollaz i said hmmmm maybe another time![/quote]
You can get SFA & SFA2 pretty cheap, SF collection is well worth getting (you get SSFII, SSFIIX & SFA2 Gold), Most of the SNK fighters are not bad either. also dead or alive is pretty sweet

It's stuff like Vampire Saviour, SFA3 & Marvel V's Capcom etc. that demand high Prices.[/quote]

Thats all fine and dandy, but you can pretty much play all those cool titles on XBOX, PS2 and Dreamcast in a newer version much closer to the original arcade without having to take a loan out at the bank... when it all comes down to it, its just software....

Matisfaction · Post by **Matisfaction** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:32 am

Chainfist wrote:Thats all fine and dandy, but you can pretty much play all those cool titles on XBOX, PS2 and Dreamcast in a newer version much closer to the original arcade without having to take a loan out at the bank... when it all comes down to it, its just software....

Not true, the Saturn versions are genuinely the better ports do to the Saturns amazing 2d capabilities. (hence the high interest in them, If the XBOX, PS2 ports were better, no one would want the Saturn versions would they) . And as for taking out a loan, The only game that's gonna cost a small fortune is SFA3 (Superior to the DC version hence the high price) which i think is doing the rounds at $100+

The rest I've seen range from $12-$50 depending on condition.

But saying that it does pay to shop around and not buy the first game you see on ebay.

and of course The Saturn has other games to consider not just fighters.

Chainfist · Post by **Chainfist** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:03 pm

So Saturn is a 2-d master eh? Well, Since Saturn has a version of SF3 along with DC, PS2 and XBOX.. it would be interesting to see some side by side still shot & game play comparisons...

I'd love to try that little experiment, though I'd still have to get the Xbox version of SF3 and a Saturn to pull tha toff... and maybe have a few rounds on the actual acade machine.. can anyone actually definitively support that Saturn is tops?

EDIT> Wait a second.. are we talking Third Strike Here or Alpha? (don't think a saturn could handle 3rd Strike...)

Matisfaction · Post by **Matisfaction** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:22 pm

Chainfist wrote:So Saturn is a 2-d master eh? Well, Since Saturn has a version of SF3 along with DC, PS2 and XBOX.. it would be interesting to see some side by side still shot & game play comparisons...

There is no SF3 on Saturn. SFA3 though Saturn wins hands down. A lot of the Capcom ports to saturn are considered to be the best.

Chainfist · Post by **Chainfist** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:31 pm

True.. I guess Saturn was dead by SF3... but at least it made it onto the DC.

Is interesting how Saturn was able to emulate / port so many good 2D games, but its so hard for other systems to emulate the Saturn itself.... what an amazing machine.

(Though, some people may be playing the actual arcade coded SFA3 US980904 right now on their xbox with a nubytech SF 15th Anniversary Arcade Stick, wondering how much better the Saturn really was....)

Ex-Cyber · Post by **Ex-Cyber** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:50 pm

The only game that's gonna cost a small fortune is SFA3 (Superior to the DC version hence the high price) which i think is doing the rounds at $100+

The following, while they may be found at reasonable prices on occasion, have a tendency to get ridiculous:

Panzer Dragoon Saga (US)
Radiant Silvergun
Shining Force 3 (US)
Shinrei Jusatsushi Taromaru (if you can even find anyone willing to sell it)

There's a couple others that I'm forgetting, but those are decent enough examples.

Matisfaction · Post by **Matisfaction** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:13 am

Every system has a couple of ridiculously priced games, Check out some of the rarest PC Engine games

Plus I've never seen Panzer Dragoon Saga & Radiant Silvergun at a reasonable price.

Shinrei Jusatsushi Taromaru was released in very small quantities and although an excellent game, be prepared to pay through the ass for it. Prolly the most expensive game for the Saturn when it pops up.

Don't be fooled that because some games are pricey that they are any good. Price is measured in rarity only. There are lots of great games available for the Saturn that you can pick up cheaply or for a good price. Not all it's best games cost an arm and a leg.

Alexvrb · Post by **Alexvrb** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:37 am

dj898 wrote:maybe when we have Pentium XXIV with 300GHZ speed...
seriously I don't think anyone has figured out how Saturn ticks fully...

Not entirely true. Sega's emulator for it runs very fast, compared to free Saturn emus in development. However, there are homebrew emulators like Satourne and Saturnin that have been making great strides recently. Since I have a real Saturn, I'm not in any big rush, but I still look forward to the day when I'll be able to preserve my Saturn and instead hook up a little HTPC-style box to my TV and run games on it.

Heck, Satourne 2.0 is being beta tested right now, and it looks good so far. It won't be as fast as Sega's emulator, but it shouldn't require hardware that hasn't been made yet to achieve playability, and compatibility is improving all the time.

dj898 wrote:we don't even know what kind of copy protection Sega used for Saturn disc...

Actually, we do, more or less. How to get around it is another matter, there is no way to circumvent the security ring check short of a mod chip or swapping. The issue has been all but beaten to death on other forums.

WaCk0 · Post by **WaCk0** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:35 am

scherzo wrote:I'm a smacktard. Seriously. Back in the day, I had a Saturn with the Netlink and I frigging sold it. I was just such a tard teenager. Running around, partying, smoking things, drinking stuff, humping holes. Man.

LOL so you smoked your Saturn

There's also SSF (0.7 alpha I think). Dunno if It works, speed... (I think need SSE2 and my AthlonXP doesnt run)