Ideas for Scherzo's NesterDC SE.

gamedudex2 · Post by **gamedudex2** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:22 am

keyboard config for menu and game saving as an option. i just dont feel like doing stupid crap during games with controller by mistake

could do reset and power on keyboard .

netplay but dunno if that will happen anytime soon, but if does cool.

single game nester se (he has said he is going to do it, so thats ts cool)

light gun support
4 player support

does nes have any games with more than 4 players ?

Skynet · Post by **Skynet** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:30 am

How about video file support such as mpeg or wmv? I think it would be tha' bomb to watch the 11-minute beaten SMB3 on NesterDC.

Do you just mean any video with no real reference to any game? What you're suggesting, from what I gather, is just like a simple media player.

The way I invision it would be to have a small video clip playing for the game you wish to play. Kinda like the small clips you see in Sonic Mega Collection +, iirc.

Strapping Scherzo · Post by **Strapping Scherzo** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:41 am

Keep 'em coming. Someday soon I was going to go through the other topic and put everything together as one list. This thread might eliminate the need for that.

Sir Savant · Post by **Sir Savant** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:52 pm

I thought Scherzo was going to say, "Thats what the delay thread is for." Lol.

Small movie playback would be nice, something proprietary like the zsnes movie files, except for nester. Anyone know of a pc nes emulator with that? Does FCEU allow that, cause if a current pc one does, He can just implement support for it in NesterDC. Plus it would be smaller than an mpeg or wmv, and I gather it would be easier to make too.

He already mentioned "skins", to make it easy for noobs to understand. How about background music while going through the menu?

Mouse support for the menu, customizable keys, not just for the menu, but for the games too, so people can use keyboards as a control pad (old skool pc emu, rofl) and mouse for the gun. Like the support on ZSNES or Snes9x, where you can toggle the stuff. It would be cool if that would be possible, to use the keyboard and stuff.

Make an intro for NesterDC, like on a prof. video game. It would be awesome if it was like in a proprietary movie format, that way anyone could make it and it wouldn't be too big.

Netplay, already mentioned. How about the VS link? Do you think thats possible? I mean, I dont recall a homebrew using it, but if its possible, then please try.

In game browser, and chat support. If there is netplay, so we can browse through available games and who is playing them. Like you cna make a list of multiplayer games and there would be lobbies for each or something. Like sending account info to the central server and then those who link up can search on the server for possible opponents, but not use up all the server bandwidth, like what p2p does.

VMU cheat files, so we can just place cheat files and stuff on the net and others can download them, instead of having to burn the cheat files on the disc.

A small logo on the vmu would be nice, or a scrolling marquee. To really make it look official.

Thats a lot of stuff. If even half is done, I will be eternally gratefull. Maybe you should make boxed sets, with homebrew roms and stuff. Sign the cd's and make a certificate of ownership. Then you can put it on LIk-Sang and stuff. DO you think they would sell emulators? Or is that a no-no because of the pc nester license?

LyingWake · Post by **LyingWake** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:30 pm

Keyboard and mouse support (using the mouse as an emulated light gun).

Juan · Post by **Juan** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:49 pm

Dark Savant0 wrote:Small movie playback would be nice, something proprietary like the zsnes movie files, except for nester. Anyone know of a pc nes emulator with that?

A lot of emus in PC can do that, first that comes to mind is VirtuaNES.

404NotFound · Post by **404NotFound** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:39 pm

There are a few emulators of the NES that can support movies.

Famtasia, FCEU and VirtualNES come to mind. For FCEU you can find a hacked version here

Also, the format for the .FCM file is found here as well as various other formats here

If you want anything to do with making movies of consoles, that site is where to find it. They have a video faster than the 11min SMB3 movie.

Skynet · Post by **Skynet** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:43 pm

I think having the video clip playing next to the game you've selected would make it looks very professional. To me it wouldn't matter if the video was tiny, like 100 pixels across or something. That way it'll save more room for videos.

mankrip · Post by **mankrip** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:00 am

Any of small video files, enough to complete the total space on a CD.

Er... the size of the complete NES ROM set (GoodNES 1.01) with all the 8822 ROMs compressed in individual ZIP files is 900 MB. If you delete the 2248 bad dumps, its size goes to 636 MB, which still is enough to fill a selfboot CD, because selfbooting takes away 20-30 MB of disc space.

By the way, will NesterDC SE support zipped ROMs? (btw I don't remember if I asked this before

)

LyingWake · Post by **LyingWake** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:04 am

By the way, will NesterDC SE support zipped ROMs? (btw I don't remember if I asked this before Embarassed)

Yep.

Skynet · Post by **Skynet** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:15 am

Fragger wrote:
Any of small video files, enough to complete the total space on a CD.
Er... the size of the complete NES ROM set (GoodNES 1.01) with all the 8822 ROMs compressed in individual ZIP files is 900 MB. If you delete the 2248 bad dumps, its size goes to 636 MB, which still is enough to fill a selfboot CD, because selfbooting takes away 20-30 MB of disc space.

By the way, will NesterDC SE support zipped ROMs? (btw I don't remember if I asked this before )

Shhhhhhh!

Actually I thought of that after I posted. I still stand by my post though.

ethoscapade · Post by **ethoscapade** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:21 am

is anybody that concerned about having every NES rom ever, though?

not only is there pretty much no way around that being extraordinarily illegal, i'm willing to bet at least half of those games are pretty bad.

abydos1000 · Post by **abydos1000** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:22 pm

ethoscapade wrote:is anybody that concerned about having every NES rom ever, though?

not only is there pretty much no way around that being extraordinarily illegal, i'm willing to bet at least half of those games are pretty bad.

Point well taken. I doubt there is anyone on the board that has a cart of every NES game made (if they do, I'm jelous

). And some are pretty bad; I stuck mostly to the A titles, but I've read about a few. One had you trying to rescue baby Moses, so it was a religious title. They said it was pretty bad, but I busted from the seams with laughter with their suggestion of tossing baby Moses into the Nile and watch the spiders eat him before tossing the game in the trash.

ghostparty · Post by **ghostparty** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:35 pm

Maybe you could make the left trigger on the dc a quick ram load and the right trigger can be the quick ram save.
That way we don't have to go to a menu every time.

ethoscapade · Post by **ethoscapade** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:44 pm

actually, being raised in a super christian household, i had that baby moses game

and i don't much like that idea about the quick save/load, personally.. the DC triggers are very prone to being inadvertently squeezed, and then you'd have the kids suddenly jumping back five levels for reasons they can't understand.

LyingWake · Post by **LyingWake** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:52 pm

Maybe you could make the left trigger on the dc a quick ram load and the right trigger can be the quick ram save.
That way we don't have to go to a menu every time.

Yeah, but what happens when you accediently hit quick load when you quick saved about 10 minutes ago. That would suck.

gamedudex2 · Post by **gamedudex2** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:06 pm

jtnewman wrote:
ethoscapade wrote:is anybody that concerned about having every NES rom ever, though?

not only is there pretty much no way around that being extraordinarily illegal, i'm willing to bet at least half of those games are pretty bad.
Point well taken. I doubt there is anyone on the board that has a cart of every NES game made (if they do, I'm jelous ). And some are pretty bad; I stuck mostly to the A titles, but I've read about a few. One had you trying to rescue baby Moses, so it was a religious title. They said it was pretty bad, but I busted from the seams with laughter with their suggestion of tossing baby Moses into the Nile and watch the spiders eat him before tossing the game in the trash.

i know soemone that has every nes cart ever, he also has one of the gold carts for the nintendo cup he paid a few grand for , he f'n crazy. he was also the first person to dump that rom online, he also made several other rom dumps. he has many pirate carts too.
and various famicon and nes usa systems.

like i said this dude crazy, he almost complete an snes collection, and has a complete n64 one. so far he doesnt plan on fooling with a gameboy collection because too many gameboy/gbc/gba games to keep tack off

all of his games have box and instreuctions, many are new. he also have unboxed ones that arent new just for gameplay.

he even has a huge crap load of atari 2600 and 7800 games.

hasa decent amoumt of cube.

this guy is the ultimate nintendo freak.

oh by the way he has no girlfriend. duh(serious) this dude would spend entire paychecks on games. the most he paid for a single game was $5,000

i couldnt be so hardcore, me love the ladies, and um life

cagmere · Post by **cagmere** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 5:50 pm

4 player and light gun support.

lackofsense · Post by **lackofsense** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:21 pm

me i have no requests other than a list of scherzo's planned features
while this is all awesome, i think your asking a bit much
but that's just my opinion

mankrip · Post by **mankrip** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:51 pm

gamedudex2 wrote:i know soemone that has every nes cart ever, he also has one of the gold carts for the nintendo cup he paid a few grand for , he f'n crazy. he was also the first person to dump that rom online, he also made several other rom dumps. he has many pirate carts too.
and various famicon and nes usa systems.

like i said this dude crazy, he almost complete an snes collection, and has a complete n64 one. so far he doesnt plan on fooling with a gameboy collection because too many gameboy/gbc/gba games to keep tack off

all of his games have box and instreuctions, many are new. he also have unboxed ones that arent new just for gameplay.

he even has a huge crap load of atari 2600 and 7800 games.

hasa decent amoumt of cube.

this guy is the ultimate nintendo freak.

oh by the way he has no girlfriend. duh(serious) this dude would spend entire paychecks on games. the most he paid for a single game was $5,000

Hm... Does his friends call him Mario, because they (this guy and Mario) are both italians and they're both plumbers?

Anyway, it would be interesting if someone with a huge collection like this could help scherzo by providing some scans of the boxes (all sides), cart labels, and manuals/docs.