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extrememodder · Post by **extrememodder** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 11:34 am

hey you guys. a good friend of mine is having some problems with her computer and I want to know if you guys could help.

whenever she is on line, if she tries to type in a url her computer either freezes or says that she has performed an illegal operation and closes the explorer<spelling?

the same thing happens when she tries to open a folder or program on her computer.
i believe she is running windows 98.

any ideas?

typoEDR · Post by **typoEDR** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 11:39 am

- First off, it's Windows 98, and that's the problem, but enough of that.

Go for the requisite things:
- Virus Scan (often enough)
- Windows Update

If it's not a virus, and Windows Update can't fix the problem with the patches, then Explorer may have been corrupted some how.

extrememodder · Post by **extrememodder** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 11:51 am

she is signing up right now, she will post about it soon.

HXCGamer · Post by **HXCGamer** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 12:00 pm

Yes, I am the owner of this computer that my friend here is talking about. We live next to each other. The problem with my computer has nothing to do with Windows 98, considering that Windows 98 is one of the best programs out there to run on your computer. My computer has no virus what so ever, I have looked into that many, many times. I did, though, download a program to check things out on my computer and it said that the browser had been hijacked, or someone had attempted that. Im not sure if that could be the problem. But I'm in the process of finding out. The problem is this: Everytime I bring up a web page, and I go to click on the URL, it does an Explorer shut down. Same with if I click any of the things in the tool bar at the top (file, tools, etc etc). Also, sometimes if I bring up certain programs out of the blue it tends to shut down on me because, obviously, it don't like me very much. Windows Update won't fix anything, I've tried that also. I'm about to throw the computer out of my window. I tried to re-format my computer to see if it would fix the problem, but it wont format either, it just freezes and I have to restart the computer. So is there anyone who can help me try and find out what the hell is going on with my POS?

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 12:10 pm

To format it you need to be in DOS I think so it shouldn't freeze or restart

HXCGamer · Post by **HXCGamer** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 12:15 pm

I'm not smart enough to do that though, LoL. I don't want to go into DOS and screw something up, I might make it even worse!

typoEDR · Post by **typoEDR** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 1:47 pm

Your computer freezes while formatting?
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In DOS,

-Boot up with Windows 98 Startup Disk (Floppy)
-Start it with CD Support
-When it's finished loading
-> FORMAT C: \S

- When finished formatting, install Windows 98 again
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Please do find out if you have any viruses, trojans, or spyware (they are fairly buggy often). Grab Ad-Aware off the internet while you're at it.

btm4k · Post by **btm4k** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 2:43 pm

Yeah, whenever I start getting huge problems, I format. My advice would be to backup the stuff you need and do what typoEDR said^^. Windows always feels so clean after a fresh format.

SuperMegatron · Post by **SuperMegatron** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 2:48 pm

what happened is you messed up your ie get netscape or something and download a new ie

HXCGamer · Post by **HXCGamer** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 2:54 pm

The thing is, I don't have a windows start up disk. Which is quite a big problem. I have ad aware, the new version. now what do i do if i don't have a windows sart up disk

typoEDR · Post by **typoEDR** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 3:02 pm

Well, for now, go to http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm

They have boot disk images for almost every Windows OS. Download your version, then insert a floppy (preferably blank) and run the executable (it'll create the boot disk for you).

typoEDR · Post by **typoEDR** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 3:07 pm

Or, if you want it to do it by yourself (sorry for the double post), I just remembered how to make your own (I'm running a dual boot Windows98/WindowsXP system, usually on XP, so I forget).

Go to the Windows Control Panel (Start > Settings > Control Panel )
- Find Add/Remove Programs and open it
- One of the tabs is marked Startup Disk, click there.
- Click 'Create Disk'

You'll need your Windows 98 CD as well as a blank floppy of course. If it's more convenient for you, use the site I just linked, one quick shot and that's it!

HXCGamer · Post by **HXCGamer** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 3:19 pm

I never got a Windows 98 CD with my computer. I havn't had one, which really sucks ass because I've needed it for many things. Now what do I do, lol.

typoEDR · Post by **typoEDR** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 3:24 pm

- Grab a pillow
- Fall asleep for a few hours
- When you wake up, drink a coffee
- Grab your address/telephone book.
- Call every friend you have and find out if they have the Windows 98 CD.

As a user of Windows 98 since it came out, it's almost rule of thumb that owning the OS absolutely requires you to have the CD because sooner or later (usually sooner), that OS is going to crap out.

HXCGamer · Post by **HXCGamer** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 4:43 pm

I was told that the disk on the windows 98 cd had to have the same OEM number as your computer. Is this true?

typoEDR · Post by **typoEDR** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 6:37 pm

I'm going to try to decipher that...

Do you mean if the Windows 98 CD needs to have the same OEM number (I'm guess CD key) as your computer?

Well, to put it straight as I can, if you bought a computer pre-installed with Windows 98 without either a CD or a CD Key given to you, you should shoot everyone involved in the purchase of this computer.

As long as you have a Windows 98 CD along with a CD key, you should be fine after formatting.

Not to be rude or anything, but it seems like your computer skills are somewhere harboring near 'beginner'. If you don't have any friends that can fix this, and are afraid to reformat, you should maybe go to a computer technician of some sort. At least that way, you should be able to get a functioning PC and if anything does screw up, you can pin it on him!

HXCGamer · Post by **HXCGamer** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 6:52 pm

No. I'm not a beginner. LoL. I just don't know jack about the problem that I'm having. I can fix everything else, just not this, and it's really pissing me off. I've tried almost EVERYTHING. My last resort is a technician. I've fixed this computer many, many times. The reason I got it was because I fixed it for my parents, LoL. I just don't know whats up with the problem I'm having. I'm not afraid to reformat either. I've done it so many times, I don't think I can count them. LoL

typoEDR · Post by **typoEDR** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:57 pm

Then you should have no worries, other then acquiring the Windows 98 CD and a boot disk.

Happy hunting!

HXCGamer · Post by **HXCGamer** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 10:19 pm

Oh yes thank you, I appreciate it. LoL. I just need the windows 98 disk *cries* lol

btm4k · Post by **btm4k** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 2:03 pm

You *might* be able to find a used WIN98 disc at a computer store that has used items for cheap.

Good luck with that

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