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Post by Stormwatch » Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:53 pm

Just wait, The Conduit will finally deliver teh hardcore.
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Post by Dreamcast4life » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:54 am

Stormwatch wrote:Just wait, The Conduit will finally deliver teh hardcore.
pfft, You played on FPS you played them all. I want the wii to do something original. not waggle to do a "one button" configuration.
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Post by Specially Cork » Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:44 am

I want the wii to do something original.
No you don't, it's just cool to say that.

All gamers want original games because there never are any, yet all gamers are still playing games.

Am I the only one noticing the problem here?
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Post by Specially Cork » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:55 am

Wii should be pushing it in originality
Why should it? I don't think Nintendo have any such obligation. They should be making games that give them the biggest profit margins, just like any other business. As unoriginal as another Smash Bros or Mario Kart may be - if they sell..they sell. And that's my point - they do sell. But if everybody wants originality from the Wii - who the fuck is buying them?
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Post by Luriden » Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:50 pm

I'm really bummed out by the Wii. I bought it because there were a handful of must-plays and I figured there were more games I'd enjoy. Well, I played through the handful of must-plays... the rest of the games were either too disappointing/stupid to even bother with (Wii Music, Mario Party 53, Nights) or just shovelware by no-name game companies ("Carnival Games" anyone? How about some "Circus Games"?).

I modded my Wii but there's not even any games worth pirating. The only good games were the ones I bought the day I got my Wii. That's just pathetic. I couldn't care less about the kiddie-status of the system. Hell, I loved my Gamecube and it had the same image, but Gamecube actually had good games. The Wii is just an overpriced board game.
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Post by Eviltaco64X » Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:17 pm

Not a Wii fan. I'll end up buying one eventually for Smash Bros Brawl, Mario Kart Wii, and Mario Galaxy. That's about it.

The DS is still good, though. A lot of original 4/5 star+ games on it.
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Post by Lartrak » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:14 pm

The Wii is a little disappointing to me as well. However, I think this partly depends on what you want out of a system. There are a half dozen original titles worth purchasing for the system (that's usually, for me, the point where a system becomes worth considering for a purchase - I bought the Wii at launch as I new the 1st part titles alone would eventually justify it for me).

I'd have to say possibly the biggest disappointment of all on the Wii has been Brawl's online mode. What a POS. I still haven't bought the game, as I realized I had little interest in the single player and a friend already owns it. It'd just be nice to be able to do stuff like play the modes we like against other people online, and what have you. Yeesh, is it really so hard Nintendo?

Another problem for me is that most of them are Nintendo titles (which take forever to drop in price), and I'm rarely willing to plunk down $50 on games. But, I did get No More Heroes for $7.48 from Target. That was nice. I'd also say Blast Works is worth picking up now. I paid about $30 for it, but you can get it for $10-$15 now.
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Post by BlackAura » Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:08 am

For me, it's ideal. I hardly play games anymore, and I much prefer the pick-up-and-play type games, rather than the kind of games you have to invest hours into before you get anything out of them. I don't buy that many games either, so quantity is not a problem. As long as the games I do buy have enough replay value.

That reminds me... I've still not finished Mario Galaxy or Metroid Prime 3. Not because of lack of interest - it took me almost 8 months to finish Twilight Princess, despite enjoying it more than almost any other game I'd played in years.
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Post by curt_grymala » Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:53 pm

BlackAura wrote:For me, it's ideal. I hardly play games anymore, and I much prefer the pick-up-and-play type games, rather than the kind of games you have to invest hours into before you get anything out of them. I don't buy that many games either, so quantity is not a problem. As long as the games I do buy have enough replay value.
That's almost exactly how I feel, except that I was never really into the kind of games in which I had to invest hours before I got anything out of them. I've always pretty much only enjoyed the types of games I could just pick up and play.

I don't really understand why the Wii is getting such a bad rap. Everyone knows by now that the Wii is not a gamer's console. However, it is a fun console, and it's ideal for everyone that's not a gamer. That's why it's selling so well.
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Post by Smiley » Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:36 pm

am I th eonly one that thinks that Nintendo should make a 2d metroid game for the wii similiar to wario world?


that would be awesome.....
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Post by DaMadFiddler » Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:05 pm

Smiley wrote:am I th eonly one that thinks that Nintendo should make a 2d metroid game for the wii similiar to wario world?


that would be awesome.....
There were fairly substantial rumors of a 2D Metroid game in development for DS called Metroid Dread, but nothing ever came of it.
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Post by Luriden » Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:57 am

Smiley wrote:am I th eonly one that thinks that Nintendo should make a 2d metroid game for the wii similiar to wario world?


that would be awesome.....
Meh. The only Metroid games I could get into were the 3D ones. I loved every minute of the first Metroid Prime game when it came out, and it was my first Metroid game, so I went back to trying Super Metroid again... boring as hell. I think it had something to do with the awesome environments and overall mood of Metroid Prime, it just can't be duplicated in a 2D game... or at least not enough to keep my attention.
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Post by Specially Cork » Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:10 am

After playing FPS games on the 360 and PS3 then going back to Metroid on the Wii, it feels like a timewarp.
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Post by Lartrak » Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:02 pm

Luckily, Metroid and MOHH2 control way better than any of the 360/PS3 FPS games can ever hope to. It's a more than worthy trade off, as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by Specially Cork » Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:09 pm

Lartrak wrote:Luckily, Metroid and MOHH2 control way better than any of the 360/PS3 FPS games can ever hope to. It's a more than worthy trade off, as far as I'm concerned.
Really? I thought the Metroid Wii controls were horrible.
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Post by Code-Red » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:32 pm

Lartrak wrote:Luckily, Metroid and MOHH2 control way better than any of the 360/PS3 FPS games can ever hope to. It's a more than worthy trade off, as far as I'm concerned.
You're kidding right? My buddy (who owns a Wii) said the exact same thing. That was, until, I beat him unmercifully the first time ever picking up a Wiimote and Nunchuk. If you move so much as a mouse fart, that's the difference between a headshot, and trying to hit the broad side of a barn.

Sorry, opinion exempt, but Wii-motion or whatever it is will never beat a traditional controller, in the same respect a traditional controller will never beat a keyboard and mouse.
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Post by Lartrak » Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:49 pm

You're kidding right? My buddy (who owns a Wii) said the exact same thing. That was, until, I beat him unmercifully the first time ever picking up a Wiimote and Nunchuk. If you move so much as a mouse fart, that's the difference between a headshot, and trying to hit the broad side of a barn.

Sorry, opinion exempt, but Wii-motion or whatever it is will never beat a traditional controller, in the same respect a traditional controller will never beat a keyboard and mouse.
Beat him at what game, exactly? I find the ability to hit things accurately without heavy auto-aiming (which nearly every dual-shock game I've ever played has - even when you supposedly turn it off like in the Halo series) is much easier with IR pointing than with dual shock. The only way it loses out, at times, is the lack of instantaneous reaction and sometimes turn speeds. IR pointing does appear to be harder to implement well though, considering how poorly some games use it.

In any case, it's better in the sense I actually find it far more fun to play with IR pointing in FPS games than dual shock controls, which I don't like much at all. It's permanently awkward, and feels like a crappy imitation of mouse+KB (which, I'll agree, remains the best - and apparently always will be).

While Wii FPS games feel fun and different, dual shock makes me simply wish I was playing the PC version instead.
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Post by S. Thompson » Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:58 pm

In my opinion (maybe it's just me growing older), the gaming industry is generally just in a bad state right now. I know there's a lot of high profile releases (Little Big Planet, GTAIV, Metal Gear Solid 4, etc.), but I simply cannot find myself interested in any of them. Super Mario Galaxy, until recently, was the last game that I totally got immersed in.

Since then, I've played Wario Land: Shake It! (which is great fun albeit sort of easy) and De Blob (which I think is wonderful so far). When it comes to the Wii, most of the best games are first party. This is how I felt about the Gamecube too.

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Post by mrandyk » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:00 am

S. Thompson wrote:In my opinion (maybe it's just me growing older), the gaming industry is generally just in a bad state right now. I know there's a lot of high profile releases (Little Big Planet, GTAIV, Metal Gear Solid 4, etc.), but I simply cannot find myself interested in any of them. Super Mario Galaxy, until recently, was the last game that I totally got immersed in.

Since then, I've played Wario Land: Shake It! (which is great fun albeit sort of easy) and De Blob (which I think is wonderful so far). When it comes to the Wii, most of the best games are first party. This is how I felt about the Gamecube too.

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