Whats.Shenmue.610-7179-0133A .11M1.C.97

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Whats.Shenmue.610-7179-0133A .11M1.C.97

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Disk Info:
Hardware Identifier : "SEGA SEGAKATANA"
Hardware Vender ID : "SEGA ENTERPRISES"
Media ID : "D690"
Media Information : "GD-ROM1/1"
Compatible area symbols : "J"
Peripheral Information : "0799010"
Product number : "6107179"
Version number : "V1.004"
Release date (dd/mm/yyyy): 20/07/1999
First read file : "1ST_READ.BIN"
Maker Identifier : "SEGA ENTERPRISES"
Game Title : "WHATS SHENMUE"
Ring Code : "610-7179-0133A .11M1.C.97"
HD area TOC:
HD tracks : 3 to 9
track 3 : Start LBA 45000 , End LBA 358342, ctrl 0x4
track 4 : Start LBA 358492 , End LBA 358931, ctrl 0x0
track 5 : Start LBA 359081 , End LBA 370641, ctrl 0x0
track 6 : Start LBA 370791 , End LBA 380637, ctrl 0x0
track 7 : Start LBA 380787 , End LBA 388103, ctrl 0x0
track 8 : Start LBA 388253 , End LBA 389194, ctrl 0x0
track 9 : Start LBA 389344 , End LBA 549300, ctrl 0x4
Last Sector : LBA 549150

game name="Whats.Shenmue?"
ring code ="610-7179-0133A .11M1.C.97"

rom name="ip.bin" size="32768"
crc="78985af3"
md5="e46b4f611a5d9d53c4d458d034eaa543"
sha1="b98be1e9a517e4d98fc471064260856d1d234313"
date="2011-10-19 03:05:24"


rom name="track01.bin"
size="1058400" crc="a0a8594e"
md5="0885c04b770af89826d72c8418afef88"
sha1="d1edcea373c3a939a802c7e5154e6d74277b7930"
date="2011-10-19 03:05:28"


rom name="track02.raw" size="1735776"
crc="22c0c66b"
md5="3f7ea903d9aae8b51e2af00678437902"
sha1="23f976e3b06fad4c3051add666c9dc13705b5331"
date="2011-10-19 03:05:34"


rom name="track03.bin" size="736980384"
crc="cd135ffd"
md5="8171f4ebf9711cb7a692c630ef56e23b"
sha1="15205fb89746214209c82e275a051270471587a8"
date="2011-10-19 03:34:14"


rom name="track04.raw" size="1385328"
crc="2fe1f2c4"
md5="3cc30648b41fec8cfd049b4bb57c2699"
sha1="815544e340efd727310b2e6ca949bafdbb62a8e2"
date="2011-10-19 03:34:16"

rom name="track05.raw" size="27541920"
crc="3c88a482"
md5="daca1b956a48cdfb9c3420f40a4b8f8c"
sha1="e82407ea4f24d8fa8cbb5596940426ba6043268c"
date="2011-10-19 03:35:20"


rom name="track06.raw" size="23510592"
crc="2bb39208" md5="4edf4ba6cf7968dd096848d68d54fa8b"
sha1="61619b2b858f793f045fee755c010332b6836497"
date="2011-10-19 03:36:14"


rom name="track07.raw" size="17560032"
crc="504b4867"
md5="000ffa1fca81753bcd8c7e9e7e7c6978"
sha1="445d83b9e2bd1acd6224d1651a73beacc798055a"
date="2011-10-19 03:36:52"


rom name="track08.raw" size="2213232"
crc="d0c680b8"
md5="887dc313266f4b631b4db9cc8a73e636"
sha1="196d35db5575fefbadb9c76c9d2fff8b3df4eb60"
date="2011-10-19 03:36:56"


rom name="track09.bin" size="375863712"
crc="8468eadc"
md5="ab7c43fb628f9f77c46bce05a27e2a46"
sha1="82071f7ac4a2a9c05ae7b144b7314a0689fee889"
date="2011-10-19 03:50:28"

Dumped using DC SD Ripper v1.1 by jj1odm
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Post by Maddog »

Matched my personal dump, will be in the next dats. Thank you atreyu187! :D
My disc has ringcode 610-7179-0133A 11MB1 C 97.

We are also aware of a 610-7179-0133A 10M2 C 97 variant, that has different audio tracks and remains unverified.
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Help with Dreamcast

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Re: Help with Dreamcast

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cross-posted

Hopefully I can clear this up for you without creating more confusion...


The ringcode is a code that can basically be used to identify if the discs are from the same batch (when manufacturing/pressing). If two discs have the same ringcode, they are from the same batch; if they have different ringcodes, they are from different batches.


For data tracks, the MD5 should be the same across all batches. If the MD5 is not the same, then that means we have a different version of the game -- perhaps bugs were patched, or something new was added. This is uncommon with Dreamcast titles (In the USA, for example, I think only Midway titles, like Ready 2 Rumble Boxing, Hydro Thunder, etc. had multiple public builds).


For audio tracks, the MD5 may or may not be the same across all batches, even if the source audio track is the same exact audio. This is because during the manufacturing process, bytes are added to the beginning of the audio tracks, and a different amount is done depending on the factory/batch. This is called the "audio offset." Audio tracks from the same batch/ringcode should all have matching MD5s, but audio tracks from different batches/ringcodes may or may not have different MD5s.


Discs with different audio tracks but the same data tracks are called "ringcode variants" because the contents are practically the same, but bit-by-bit they are technically not. They are always less of a priority to dump because they are not truly unique.


Luckily, all PAL titles have the same offset, so there's no ringcode variants for PAL titles making a 100% complete PAL set pretty obtainable! For NTSC-U and NTSC-J, there are some titles with a dozen or more ringcodes, so we haven't gotten around to dumping all of them just yet--if ever!




So, back to your original question, which tracks do not have matching MD5 sums? The audio tracks, or the data tracks? At the moment, we are aware of at least one What's Shenmue? ringcode variant, but we only have one dump of it, so it's considered unverified and thus not in our public dat files. So if you wouldn't mind, we'd appreciate you posting the MD5s for your disc in that thread and you could possibly help us verify another variant!

Also, I'm looking forward to the What's Shenmue translation!
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Sure, as soon as I know what I need to do in order to get the information from my GDI, I'll upload it.

EDIT: Seems that only the CDDA tracks are different (Perhaps shorter). Here's what I could put in text:

INFO:
SEGA SEGAKATANA
SEGA ENTERPRISES
D690 GD-ROM1/1
J 0799010
6107179 V1.004
19990720
1ST_READ.BIN
SEGA ENTERPRISES
WHATS SHENMUE

GDI FILE:
9
1 0 4 2352 track01.bin 0
2 600 0 2352 track02.raw 0
3 45000 4 2352 track03.bin 0
4 358492 0 2352 track04.raw 0
5 359081 0 2352 track05.raw 0
6 370791 0 2352 track06.raw 0
7 380787 0 2352 track07.raw 0
8 388253 0 2352 track08.raw 0
9 389344 4 2352 track09.bin 0

CRC-32:
track03.bin cd135ffd
track04.raw 3f1592f2
track05.raw 9c97ad60
track06.raw d7893dc7
track07.raw 39e2a81e
track08.raw 1ed5c3c0
track09.bin 8468eadc
track01.bin a0a8594e
track02.raw 0de03f29

MD5:
6f5441137379f0b4f2aa582ba5c1ed23 *track04.raw
d84891aa4bf130ed049fa631ea849bf6 *track05.raw
7542a63d468a446c74ae4f283e9925a6 *track06.raw
8945ee4a8f2ce16bd33b3b9b198c0206 *track07.raw
0107eed43958e627f78f1fe720eafcfd *track08.raw
ab7c43fb628f9f77c46bce05a27e2a46 *track09.bin
0885c04b770af89826d72c8418afef88 *track01.bin
d09be539a7074a058159505b7f5fdcb3 *track02.raw
8171f4ebf9711cb7a692c630ef56e23b *track03.bin

SHA-1:
324a506197623c29bcd7d468bb4eb97d575ba321 *track06.raw
193872e0ffc3ed1e3df690777394e0fdcb45126b *track07.raw
c04bae30247250f7a9e99384d3b2c48a7529b9d1 *track08.raw
82071f7ac4a2a9c05ae7b144b7314a0689fee889 *track09.bin
d1edcea373c3a939a802c7e5154e6d74277b7930 *track01.bin
db680939aae4bf61d0e588414c72a47c6dd92cdd *track02.raw
15205fb89746214209c82e275a051270471587a8 *track03.bin
ebfa52b7038846e5a2522014e29cd9c4ce23c42f *track04.raw
d126db86c9ac110c90413b5d10171d6f8da1f0d3 *track05.raw
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Re: Whats.Shenmue.610-7179-0133A .11M1.C.97

Post by darcagn »

Merged the previous topic into the topic we have in the dumps forum. Thanks for posting your hashes! Hopefully Maddog can confirm this variant with the other we have unverified.

It appears to be just a ringcode variant. The version number in the header is the same as the one we have verified already, and only the audio tracks are different. They just have a different audio offset, that's all. You very likely have a good copy of the disc, at least data tracks wise you definitely do.
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Re: Whats.Shenmue.610-7179-0133A .11M1.C.97

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Here is the variant in my collection which is not in the database, it has a different outer ring code as well. Hope it helps.

Title: WHATS SHENMUE
Media ID: D690
Media Config: GD-ROM1/1
Regions: J
Peripheral String: 0799010
Product Number: 6107179
Version: V1.004
Release Date: 19990720
Manufacturer ID: SEGA ENTERPRISES
Inner Ring Code: IFPI 783C
Outer Ring Code: <610-7179-0133A>HJ723E IFPI L463

Hardware: Dreamcast USA HKT-3020 (1) with Broadband HIT-0400
Software: httpd-ack-20080711 on Windows 10 with Chrome, and custom PowerShell script

Code: Select all

9
1 0 4 2352 track01.bin 0
2 600 0 2352 track02.raw 0
3 45000 4 2352 track03.bin 0
4 358492 0 2352 track04.raw 0
5 359081 0 2352 track05.raw 0
6 370791 0 2352 track06.raw 0
7 380787 0 2352 track07.raw 0
8 388253 0 2352 track08.raw 0
9 389344 4 2352 track09.bin 0
disc.gdi size 273 crc ea432453 md5 2025c4f92caa416a275638360e814148 sha1 bc5da0e7bda4a55569039f6e4c9f8754feda234a
track01.bin size 1058400 crc a0a8594e md5 0885c04b770af89826d72c8418afef88 sha1 d1edcea373c3a939a802c7e5154e6d74277b7930
track02.raw size 1735776 crc 0de03f29 md5 d09be539a7074a058159505b7f5fdcb3 sha1 db680939aae4bf61d0e588414c72a47c6dd92cdd
track03.bin size 736980384 crc cd135ffd md5 8171f4ebf9711cb7a692c630ef56e23b sha1 15205fb89746214209c82e275a051270471587a8
track04.raw size 1385328 crc 3f1592f2 md5 6f5441137379f0b4f2aa582ba5c1ed23 sha1 ebfa52b7038846e5a2522014e29cd9c4ce23c42f
track05.raw size 27541920 crc 9c97ad60 md5 d84891aa4bf130ed049fa631ea849bf6 sha1 d126db86c9ac110c90413b5d10171d6f8da1f0d3
track06.raw size 23510592 crc d7893dc7 md5 7542a63d468a446c74ae4f283e9925a6 sha1 324a506197623c29bcd7d468bb4eb97d575ba321
track07.raw size 17560032 crc 39e2a81e md5 8945ee4a8f2ce16bd33b3b9b198c0206 sha1 193872e0ffc3ed1e3df690777394e0fdcb45126b
track08.raw size 2213232 crc 1ed5c3c0 md5 0107eed43958e627f78f1fe720eafcfd sha1 c04bae30247250f7a9e99384d3b2c48a7529b9d1
track09.bin size 375863712 crc 8468eadc md5 ab7c43fb628f9f77c46bce05a27e2a46 sha1 82071f7ac4a2a9c05ae7b144b7314a0689fee889
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Re: Whats.Shenmue.610-7179-0133A .11M1.C.97

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majorpbx wrote:Here is the variant in my collection which is not in the database, it has a different outer ring code as well. Hope it helps.
It definitely helps, since it matches IlDucci's dump seen above and is now verified. It is an audio (different offset) variant, with matching data tracks. Thanks to you both, it has been added to the database! :D
The previously mentioned 10M variant remains unverified.

IlDucci has not given his ringcode, I have to presume it's the same as yours. However, this type of ringcode (Hxxxxx) is known from previous experience to potentially have different (but checksum matching) codes. IlDucci, if you happen to be around please provide this information. :|
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Re: Whats.Shenmue.610-7179-0133A .11M1.C.97

Post by Maddog »

Another dump from Gorski. It matches the previously verified <610-7179-0133A>HJ723E by majorpbx and IlDucci, but has a new ringcode: <610-7179-0133A>HJ722A. Filename in the dats edited accordingly to reflect new knowledge.
Of course this disc is also labelled NOT FOR SALE.
Thanks! :)

EDIT: funky, exactly one year later... :lol:
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Re: Whats.Shenmue.610-7179-0133A .11M1.C.97

Post by Maddog »

I dumped the rare Famitsu edition, 610-7375.
It has the ringcode 610-7179-0133A 10M3 and matched the previously mentioned old 610-7179-0133A 10M2 dump from ackmed, which came from a regular edition.
This proves conclusively that the Famitsu edition, despite having a different code on the disc is just an audio offset variant and data is the same as the regular edition.
It will appear in the upcoming dats. :D
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