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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:35 am 
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Last night I was watching What About Bob off of my external 400gb drive. Hooked up over firewire. Everything was fine no problems. This morning I go to play some music off the drive and it's gone. I check the cables, plug into different spots. OS X gives me an error saying this volume cannot be read. Wtf. I bring the drive to my PC. Which says the drive is there. The partition is gone. Acronis Disk Director was able to tell me it still had a fat32 file system. I am currently using some recovery tools but I don't know how successful that'll be. I just lost all my music it looks like. Someone at apple with fucking pay for this.

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:08 am 
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Wagh wrote:
Last night I was watching What About Bob off of my external 400gb drive. Hooked up over firewire. Everything was fine no problems. This morning I go to play some music off the drive and it's gone. I check the cables, plug into different spots. OS X gives me an error saying this volume cannot be read. Wtf. I bring the drive to my PC. Which says the drive is there. The partition is gone. Acronis Disk Director was able to tell me it still had a fat32 file system. I am currently using some recovery tools but I don't know how successful that'll be. I just lost all my music it looks like. Someone at apple with fucking pay for this.


How do you know OS X had anything to do with it? If this is a hardware failure, which is most likely, then it had nothing to do with OS X. Stuff like this has happened to me on Windows several times. You might want to look at the first link, because I got symptoms that are like you are talking about.

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:14 pm 
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How do you know OS X had anything to do with it?


Well, it'd been running fine on a windows machine for the past year. I just decided to move it to this machine a few days ago. I'm assuming it's the problem. I'm in the middle of fixing the drive now but it's gonna take ages.

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:06 am 
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you don't have any of it backed up elsewhere ?

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:57 am 
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you don't have any of it backed up elsewhere ?



It was my backup drive.

Fucking shit. So far looks like all I get out of 400gb of backup is 8gb of music. Thanks Apple.

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:59 pm 
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So i calmed down a bit and took another look at it. I'm using the File Scavenger Roofus mentioned in your post darc. Seems to be recovering a decent amount of my stuff. I'm still convinced it was OS X's fault. My buddy says it's because pre Leopard fat32 shit is wack. I don't know if thats true though.

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:03 pm 
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Wagh wrote:
My buddy says it's because pre Leopard fat32 shit is wack. I don't know if thats true though.


No, it isn't. FAT32 is just about the simplest filesystem possible - it's easy to get right in a filesystem driver, but it offers no protection against things like power failure, accidental disconnects, or just about anything else. There's nothing any OS can do about it. On an external drive, FAT32 is almost certainly going to fail eventually, regardless of which OS you're using.

Besides, that wouldn't explain the partition apparently being missing. Hardware failure is far more likely. I certainly wouldn't trust that drive again.


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I've had the same shit happen before but with Windows in place of your OSX place. Analyzed it with DiskWarrior, and it turns out the hard drive was failing, and it just happened to be a coincidence.

The problem with external drives is not if they are going to fail... it's when they are going to fail :-\

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I'll tell you I once had an issue where my Maxtor OneTouch II 300GB external HD stopped working (the blue power light came up but my computer refused to recognize the hard drive). I took it to wherever I could plus called Maxtor customer support, but no one could help me. After opening it myself, since it was no longer under warranty, it turned out that a connector inside the external HD case blew out. Since the actual drive was just an (E)IDE hard drive (I didn't know to be honest), I simply connected it as a secondary internal hard drive and everything was still there!

I dunno how things may be in your case, but it's just something to remember.

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