RadQuake Finito Beta released...

Post by **Tyne** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:25 am

Moi, may I recommend the resolution 512x384. It's still a good looking resolution and it will most likely work with just changing the defines!

DCmad · Post by **DCmad** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:37 pm

So, is IM only trying to make things harrder again? What a shame

Don't give up, Moi. It can keep us busy untill nxquake

Moi · Post by **Moi** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 4:55 pm

Thx for clearing this up BlackAura

I'm not going to comment Reaper's post publicly to avoid a new flame war. It would be a little unfair from my side too, because he's been a nice guy at some times in the past...
But I have to mention that I'm not feeling bad for releasing finito, because I just dont have any reasons for doing so. RadQuake is under the GPL license, the project is not working on by anyone and it will take some time before a serious alternative, nxQuake will be released. So why shouldn't I take the source and add little improvments to it? (we are talking about features that have been included in older versions already btw) Of course I'll add credits for all contributers so noone is uncredited and it does not look like I was the only person who worked on it.

Those dumb things like the STEPSIZE #define, the 320x200 resolution that makes mods crash are things that can be fixed within minutes but Reaper was too ignorant to do this by himself and is now calling me " jealous"... (Well forget it... I should stop now)

I'm not doing it for fame, but for myself. And when I feel that other people may want the improvements too, why shouldn't I release it to the public? Of course I'm glad when I get an extra subpage on dcemu.co.uk but this was NOT the goal.

Tyne: KOS normaly does not have a screen mode for 512x384. But who knows, I'll try it.

DCMad: I'm glad about any comments, so thanks. And you got the point:
Finito is only something to shorten the time before nxQuake gets its release

Post by **Tyne** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:35 pm

Moi according to reaper your release is nothing but a 'mod', yeah some 'mod' .. too bad it DOES fix crap he and speud broke that shouldn't of been in the first place and could of taken less then a few hours to fix.

I like it when people are ignorant and think they know what they're talking about, it's good for a laugh.

*updates his sig*

DCmad · Post by **DCmad** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:14 pm

Ian Micheal wrote:Yeah the Radquake project name means Reaper angel development has nothing to do with quake.

I laugh a lot when i see that, shame to see reaper sayin' so many sh1t. I'd like the guy and his strong will. And poor Gabi trying to translate what he posted, sad sad sad. Indeed.

law56ker · Post by **law56ker** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:24 am

DCmad wrote:
Ian Micheal wrote:Yeah the Radquake project name means Reaper angel development has nothing to do with quake.
I laugh a lot when i see that, shame to see reaper sayin' so many sh1t. I'd like the guy and his strong will. And poor Gabi trying to translate what he posted, sad sad sad. Indeed.

I though ian was done with the dreamcast scene, why does he linger around more, just to bash others who are now contributing.

toastman · Post by **toastman** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:33 am

law56ker wrote:
DCmad wrote:
Ian Micheal wrote:Yeah the Radquake project name means Reaper angel development has nothing to do with quake.
I laugh a lot when i see that, shame to see reaper sayin' so many sh1t. I'd like the guy and his strong will. And poor Gabi trying to translate what he posted, sad sad sad. Indeed.
I though ian was done with the dreamcast scene, why does he linger around more, just to bash others who are now contributing.

Pretty much.
Also, you may have noticed in that post that he was suggesting that he wasn't done at all.

will it's over now have to do it them self had many great releases coming now they never see the light of day

So, I guess he's now quitting over this. Although this was done because he had quit.

DCmad · Post by **DCmad** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:33 am

toastman wrote:Pretty much.
Also, you may have noticed in that post that he was suggesting that he wasn't done at all.

will it's over now have to do it them self had many great releases coming now they never see the light of day

So, I guess he's now quitting over this. Although this was done because he had quit.

DUHHHHHHH my poor english doesn't let me translate some of Ian's sentences. Can you explain me it?

DaMadFiddler · Post by **DaMadFiddler** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:38 am

Well...both to avoid "product confusion" and to shed a little humor on the conflict, how about any future releases stemming from Moi's source branch be called "MadQuake"?

MetaFox · Post by **MetaFox** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:56 am

RADQuake is just nxQuake with SDLQuake's sound engine anyway - all licensed under GPL.

Speud's changes are released under the GPL as well, since any code written that is introduced into a GPL licensed program becomes GPL code as well.

You're completely free to release derivative versions of the program as per the GPL license, but it's not worth it.

Just ignore Reaper and don't touch his releases. I've learned the hard way that you can't fight The Ego

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Moi · Post by **Moi** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 7:47 am

Yeah the Radquake project name means Reaper angel development has nothing to do with quake.

Thtat's really funny. It sounds as if "RadQuake" was kinda new from scratch-written-engine.

...BTW...
A good example, how important commas and dots(?) are:

will it's over now[.] have to do it them self[.] had many great releases coming now[.] they never see the light of day[.]

or is it:

will it's over now[.] have to do it[.] them self had many great releases coming now[.] they never see the light of day[.]

typoEDR · Post by **typoEDR** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:09 am

Other than the fact the code is under the GPL license, a name change is probably the only thing can be changed, as it is no longer under development from 'RAD'. MADQuake is pretty funny, though.

Moi · Post by **Moi** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:13 am

"Yeah the Madquake project name means Moi's Another Development has nothing to do with quake."

toastman · Post by **toastman** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:51 am

Moi wrote:
Yeah the Radquake project name means Reaper angel development has nothing to do with quake.
Thtat's really funny. It sounds as if "RadQuake" was kinda new from scratch-written-engine.

...BTW...
A good example, how important commas and dots(?) are:
will it's over now[.] have to do it them self[.] had many great releases coming now[.] they never see the light of day[.]
or is it:
will it's over now[.] have to do it[.] them self had many great releases coming now[.] they never see the light of day[.]

I think it's the first one.

DCmad · Post by **DCmad** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:59 am

Moi wrote:"Yeah the Madquake project name means Moi's Another Development has nothing to do with quake."

Good. Now add this line to your sig

Now, back on topic. Ian's a good guy anyway. Just makes excentric statements.
What features you think would be easy to tweak in RADquake Finito?

mankrip · Post by **mankrip** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 2:02 pm

Well, speud said in there that he doesn't have a problem with this release (at least that's how I interpreted the "not a big deal anyway" part), which was nice.

In the start of the topic reaper said "Not like it matters but leave this up to speud", which was ok too, and makes sense.

I don't know why, but it seems that Ajay saying that Moi's release is under the GPL blowed a fuse in reaper's brain.

it's expected from people that put me down then use my projects for releases

AFAIK Moi never put him down. Well, after seeing reaper insulting and threatening quzar for absolutely no reason, I'm not surprised.

DCmad wrote:DUHHHHHHH my poor english doesn't let me translate some of Ian's sentences. Can you explain me it?

It's his english that's awful, not yours.

Post by **Christuserloeser** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:30 am

Thanx Moi

This release is greatly appreciated

Post by **Tyne** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:17 pm

Just tested TAoV on Radquake Finito, the framerate a lot of the time goes as low as 12 or so, ouch!

It's hard to understand what's going on at such a choppy framerate. Also the mod menu is broken from experimenting with it:

A) It'd freeze if I put plain mod files into /Medieval/
B) It'd freeze if I packed the plain mod files in a PAK0.PAK file and used it in /Medieval/
C) It'd work if I renamed TAoV PAK0.PAK to PAK3.PAK and shove it in the /ID1/ directory with the other PAK files.

Moi · Post by **Moi** » Sat Dec 25, 2004 9:21 am

Oooops...
I heard that the modmenu didnt work correctly, but it never supported plain files.
For now I guess that the problem is: when you have more than one pak file in your mod folder only one pak file is recognized...
I'll see if I can add 4.3's modmenu to finito and add some gfx and sound to it.Luckily TDA uploaded the 4.3's source to console.quakepit.com, coz it isnt on imrtech anymore.

Merry XMAS btw

DCmad · Post by **DCmad** » Sat Dec 25, 2004 9:38 am

Merry xmas, Moi and everyone.

What i would like to see in finito the most, is the 4.3's 640*480 resolution back, or even 320*240 with 16bit cameras or any other improvement.
Ok, a bit latter to ask it for Santa