Googled 'DreamNES', found this?!

Strapping Scherzo · Post by **Strapping Scherzo** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 12:23 pm

With the passing of Kervin, I was curious to see what DreamNES was like. It's hard to keep track of all the different NES emus out there, ya know? Anyways, so I googled DreamNES, and one of the highest ranked results was this page:

http://drcapps.tripod.com/

Apparently, some retard is sellings NesterDC disks with 628 ROMs on it for $12.99! It would be one thing if they were all public domain ROMs, but there aren't 628 PD ROMs. I just wanted to point this out. Maybe there's something we can do to get this guy's site down.

Post by **Christuserloeser** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 12:48 pm

I brought something like this before I even knew that 'emulation' exists(specially on a Dreamcast) - Beside the plain fact that this is illegal Warez, these compilations are always very crappy!

Seems it's NesterDC30 - Hey, maybe it's even the same that I brought back then

Selling PD-ROMs would be illegal too (except if they are labeled as "freeware" or you ask the authors of these ROMs for permission)

Maybe emailing this guy asking for taking that offer down would be a good idea.

Strapping Scherzo · Post by **Strapping Scherzo** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 1:05 pm

Yeah, I could totally see a person new or oblivious to the emulation scene fall for something like that. I emailed him (and it hasn't bounced, amazingly) and I submitted an abuse report to Tripod.

Seeing this stuff makes me mad because I just wish I could make a living by coding the things I enjoy, like emus or games. And then this guy is making money without doing jack.

burnerO · Post by **burnerO** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 1:29 pm

People occasionally point me to DreamInducer compilations for sale which use screencaptures that I made for their ads. It's damned irritating.

Post by **Quzar** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 1:56 pm

for a while we had a thread where we found ebay people doing this and reported them. if we got people together we could actually take a stab at it, but it seems that most just go "its not worth it".

Warmachine · Post by **Warmachine** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:43 pm

It is pretty hard to find them all. To many.

abydos1000 · Post by **abydos1000** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:53 pm

whew, that is plain rotten. While some people probably look the other way in someone having copies of old games from the 80's, I would think selling something like that has to be the worst thing you can do.

[quote] Selling PD-ROMs would be illegal too (except if they are labeled as "freeware" or you ask the authors of these ROMs for permission) [/unquote].

In most cases this is true, but I don't think you can sell them if they are labeled as freeware either. I think they can only be sold if they are distributed under open source software license. Example, I make an open source emulator and some pd games that are also open source. If someone else gives the emulator a fancy new interface and makes modifcations to the roms, I think they can sell it for whatever.

Now that we have seen it, may the link should be removed?

cheatachu72 · Post by **cheatachu72** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:54 pm

hmmm, number one google site and only has 83 hits when i visited.....that is quite odd

anyways i reported the abuse to tripod too...

http://help.lycos.com/LycosHelp/help/wa ... 1_help.htm

is the link for others to do the same if it is still up

Maximo2703 · Post by **Maximo2703** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 5:20 pm

i heard google's results were based on how many links a site has to what you are searching for..not how popular it is. thats what my one professor at college said. who knows.

Post by **Quzar** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:03 pm

yea, that is how google does it. it searches for links and rates sites by how many other sites link to them.

Mask of Destiny · Post by **Mask of Destiny** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:10 pm

Technically if it is a truly PD (Public Domain) ROM you can do whatever you want with it, including sell it. Releasing something into public domain means that you relinquish all rights to the property. With freeware, the author retains all rights and therefore his/her permission would be required to sell the software.

Post by **Quzar** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:14 pm

It would be interesting to make a game out of this... "warezbusters". start a thread and post links you have found to people selling DC warez. every link you post and report, you get a point =P. it would be interesting at least. some may argue however it would be showing people where to get it =\.

Link2k4 · Post by **Link2k4** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:17 pm

google is a awesome search engine. I agree that this person who is selling nester whould be brought down but if he IS selling PD games on it who cares seeing how PD games have "lack of imagination" and they are boring, like the nes game sack of flour, you actually play as a sack of flour, looks as though some devs of games don't know how to say "no" to drugs.

Captain Spaulding · Post by **Captain Spaulding** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:43 pm

I got this link off of an ad right on the front page of dcemulation today at work, it isnt there now but it was earlier along with some other ad's http://207.144.21.109/
that is the actual IP the address is http://www.dc-backups.com

Post by **Quzar** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:37 pm

cheetah is slacking then. tsk tsk.

ponyone · Post by **ponyone** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:44 pm

I emailed sega last night alerting them of those two pages, and they replied saying they'd get in touch with their corporate office on the subject.. and the pages seem to be gone now. Not sure if it was my doing or someone elses or the combined effort of us.. but they're gone.

abydos1000 · Post by **abydos1000** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:50 am

Problem is they always pop right back up with a different domain name.

Post by **Quzar** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:28 am

yea, well at least this will inconvenience them.

cheatachu72 · Post by **cheatachu72** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:10 pm

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Strapping Scherzo · Post by **Strapping Scherzo** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:19 pm

Sweet! I feel better now.